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  • Is Abortion Halal?
     OP - January 06, 2011, 05:27 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #1 - January 06, 2011, 05:31 PM
    IIRC the orthodox position, in Islam a soul only enters the body of the foetus after a couple of weeks/months following conception. Thus up to to that point abortion is halal - but not after.

    Open to correction.
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #2 - January 06, 2011, 05:34 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjyqpxkKJCM
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #3 - January 06, 2011, 05:50 PM
    @Hupla

    I once dated a girl with a similar name as yours. I did not suceeed in impregnating her but I did manage to take her tender breasts in my mouth. Do you want to see the pictures? I'm not convinced you've read my argument. It is very dangerous to go on the gist of a thread's title with mine. It's never what it seems. If you have, let me know what you think of my timeless, ageless, peerless rejoinder to the mainstream clerical position.
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #4 - January 06, 2011, 05:51 PM
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     Reply #5 - January 06, 2011, 07:03 PM
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     Reply #6 - January 06, 2011, 07:08 PM
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    Is Abortion Halal?

    No it is HARAM in Islam.,

    but I would like to change rules for the baboons of Islam ., I would like to make the clean shaving as Halal and beards Haram to Muslim males..
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #7 - January 06, 2011, 07:11 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #8 - January 06, 2011, 07:15 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 06, 2011, 07:11 PM
    @Yez

    Why in your view is abortion haram? Can you support that with Islamic theology?

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    Qur'an clearly disapproves of killing other humans: “Take not life which Allah has made sacred” (6:151; see also 4:29  “If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (for ever)” (4:93). Allah (SWT) went even further, making unlawful killing of a single individual human being equal to mass murder of the whole of mankind: "Because of that, We ordained for the children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief on earth, it would be as if he killed all mankind. And who saved a life, it would be as if he saved all mankind." (Al-Maidah, 5:32)

    As to whether abortion is a form of killing a human, the Qur'an does not make any explicit statements. Only Surah 17:31 warns believers in general: “Kill not your children for fear of want. We shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you. Verily the killing of them is a great sin.”

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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #9 - January 06, 2011, 07:26 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #10 - January 06, 2011, 08:11 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 06, 2011, 07:11 PM
    Can you support that with Islamic theology?

    We are supposed to be extremely grateful to Allah for providing us with life, so taking it away is seen as being ungrateful
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #11 - January 06, 2011, 08:23 PM
    ^^^ It's permissible under some circumstances i.e. going through with pregnancy poses a significant health risk to the mother.

    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
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     Reply #12 - January 06, 2011, 08:43 PM
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     Reply #13 - January 06, 2011, 08:47 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #14 - January 06, 2011, 08:53 PM
    ^^^It's an interesting question, I'm just stating Islam's view on the issue but I would guess that they justify it by saying the baby goes to heaven in the end.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #15 - January 06, 2011, 08:58 PM
    Read up this:
    http://www.islamawareness.net/FamilyPlanning/Abortion/abortion3.html
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #16 - January 06, 2011, 09:04 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #17 - January 06, 2011, 09:08 PM
    After reading the link - ' They argue that the mother can have other children, whereas the child cannot make up for losing the mother.'

    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
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     Reply #18 - January 06, 2011, 09:16 PM
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     Reply #19 - January 06, 2011, 09:17 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #20 - January 06, 2011, 09:19 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 06, 2011, 05:51 PM
    @Ishina

    What are you trying to say my sweet? I don't listen to vulgar music.


    I'm pro-choice
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #21 - January 06, 2011, 09:24 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #22 - January 06, 2011, 09:27 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 06, 2011, 09:17 PM
    So can the baby start a family when it comes of age. Nor can the mother make up for the loss of that baby. By common consensus it is normally deemed a greater abomination to kill a baby than it is to kill an adult, no?


    Children are small, innocent and defenseless human beings so I can understand the majority feeling that way but does that imply we should forfeit the life of the mother?
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #23 - January 06, 2011, 09:49 PM
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #24 - January 06, 2011, 10:02 PM
    Hey, I'm merely stating counter-arguments. I would say in the case of rape, I'd agree with your argument.
    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #25 - January 06, 2011, 10:24 PM
    Quote from: Heyjustlooking on January 06, 2011, 10:02 PM
    Hey, I'm merely stating counter-arguments. I would say in the case of rape, I'd agree with your argument.

    I love counter-arguments. I once impregnated one. I don't know if she aborted it.
  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #26 - January 07, 2011, 12:20 AM
    Quote from: hupla on January 06, 2011, 05:31 PM
    IIRC the orthodox position, in Islam a soul only enters the body of the foetus after a couple of weeks/months following conception. Thus up to to that point abortion is halal - but not after.

    Open to correction.

    It's 4 months.

    Aborting it afterwards is banned because they believe Allah has given it the "rooh" (spirit).

    There is an exception to this when the mother's life is in danger, etc.
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  • Re: Is Abortion Halal?
     Reply #27 - January 07, 2011, 01:39 AM
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     Reply #28 - January 07, 2011, 01:46 AM
    Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, "(as regards your creation), every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for another forty days, and then a piece of flesh for another forty days. Then Allah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in religion). Then the soul is breathed into his body..."

    ~ Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 549

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     Reply #29 - January 07, 2011, 01:56 AM
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