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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #300 - January 31, 2011, 08:48 PM
    Support from Muslims in Australia :

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgtr7e_muslim-uprising-demo-2011-sydney-media-coverage_news#from=embed
    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #301 - January 31, 2011, 08:52 PM
    lol Hizb ut tahrir have almost no support in Egypt. It seems to me, paloma is trying to discredit the legitimate revolution in Egypt by posting rubbish.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #302 - January 31, 2011, 08:54 PM
    Not onky Paloma, there seems to be a whole media campaign going in that direction in certain circles
    bleed for me...kill for me...die for me
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #303 - January 31, 2011, 08:57 PM
    Quote from: Paloma on January 31, 2011, 08:40 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcKewmyh_o&feature=player_embedded

    Yeah those pesky Jews  Roll Eyes




    That there are Islamists in Egypt is not news, Paloma.

    However they weren't the ones who started and drove this uprising. Of course they will want to try and grab a slice of the pie and push for their agenda, but I believe the majority of Egyptians won't allow them to take control.

    That's not to say that the Muslim Brotherhood won't play a part in some sort of coalition of course, but even the Muslim Brotherhood itself contains many elements - both radical and moderate.

    Regardless of what happens - the people must have the chance to choose and evolve themselves.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #304 - January 31, 2011, 09:06 PM
    Quote from: NineBerry on January 31, 2011, 08:54 PM
    Not onky Paloma, there seems to be a whole media campaign going in that direction in certain circles

    Really? Where?

    Quote from: Paloma on January 31, 2011, 08:40 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcKewmyh_o&feature=player_embedded

    Tbh this is the first time I have seen anti-Israeli sentiments being expressed by protesters in Egypt.

  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #305 - January 31, 2011, 09:10 PM
    btw Paloma - Of course we all know many Arabs and Muslims often blame the "Jews" for everything, but in the video you posted they said 'Israel is the enemy' (which is again not news, but a common and predictable opinion amongst many Arabs) - so why did you say Jews?

    Quote from: Paloma on January 31, 2011, 08:40 PM
    Yeah those pesky Jews  Roll Eyes



  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #306 - January 31, 2011, 09:13 PM
    ^ My point exactly.

    Quote from: yeezevee on January 31, 2011, 04:58 PM

    CrossTalk on Egypt: Power to People_ Tariq Ali [/b][/u]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8nyeOAdqAQ

    What is the Track record of US of A on promoting Democracy??

    Answer  "ZERO"...ZERO.....


    In that Tariq ali refers to Jordan as an US/Israeli protectorate  Cheesy

    I think if this arab revolution spreads to a country with a monarch like Jordan then it could change the oil rich gulf nations as well..........
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #307 - January 31, 2011, 09:14 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on January 31, 2011, 09:06 PM
    Really? Where?
    Tbh this is the first time I have seen anti-Israeli sentiments being expressed by protesters in Egypt.




    Me too!

    In fact I have been astonished at how little of the usual vitriolic statements one often hears on the Muslim/Arab street - and I have been very encouraged by that!

    I hope it means the more intelligent and educated Egyptians are starting to move away from such useless "Blame/Victim" rhetoric.

  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #308 - January 31, 2011, 09:18 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on January 31, 2011, 09:06 PM
    Really? Where?
    Tbh this is the first time I have seen anti-Israeli sentiments being expressed by protesters in Egypt.


    is that video from Australia? America or Egypt?? those kids with that young baboon looks like that they are Australian private Islamic school..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #309 - January 31, 2011, 09:19 PM
    Quote from: Paloma on January 31, 2011, 08:48 PM
    Support from Muslims in Australia :

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgtr7e_muslim-uprising-demo-2011-sydney-media-coverage_news#from=embed


    Looks like the Australian wing of Anjem Choudhury's lot.

    What point are you trying to make, Paloma?

    That Muslims groups hope to get something out of the uprising in Egypt? (Well duh!)

    Or that this is really an Islamist uprising in disguise? (FFI is that way >>)

    Or that you would prefer Mubarak stay in power?

    What?

    Come on... spit it out?
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #310 - January 31, 2011, 09:24 PM
    Quote
    Or that this is really an Islamist uprising in disguise? (FFI is that way >>)

    That you would prefer Mubarak stay in power?

    What?

    Come on... spit it out?

    Common Paloma..    says  it..  spit the shit out ..

    you ffi lover..   Cheesy Cheesy
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #311 - January 31, 2011, 09:26 PM
    I'm guessing he/she/it believes for 'the west' to remain free others need to be oppressed and ruled by a despot dictator  whistling2
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #312 - January 31, 2011, 09:31 PM
    Even if Egypt ends up with some sort of coalition government with elected members of the Muslim Brotherhood alongside Secularists - at least we would have arrived at that point naturally and freely and without the bloodbath and the Islamist militias that are the result of the US bringing "Democracy" to Iraq.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #313 - January 31, 2011, 09:37 PM
    Hassan and the dementingly sexy Aphrodite are fronting for the Death-to-the-Hebrews crowd. They must be exposed.

    Arise defenders of the Jewish state! Let us send these closet beardos to Jannah.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #314 - January 31, 2011, 09:40 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 31, 2011, 09:37 PM
    Hassan and the dementingly sexy Aphrodite are fronting for the Death-to-the-Hebrews crowd. They must be exposed.

    Arise defenders of the Jewish state! Let us send these closet beardos to Jannah.


    lol... you know when I was a Muslim, even then I was never part of that blame Jews and conspiracy theory crap, crowd. I love Jews - like I love all human beings. cheers
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #315 - January 31, 2011, 09:45 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 31, 2011, 09:37 PM
    Hassan and the dementingly sexy Aphrodite are fronting for the Death-to-the-Hebrews crowd. They must be exposed.

    Arise defenders of the Jewish state! Let us send these closet beardos to Jannah.


    I've always believed the biggest Zionists and supporters of Israel are right-wing Christians in the US. I've always believed in peaceful co-existence between arab/muslims and jews hence BUT I'm not afraid to show my hostility towards Jews who believe God gave them deeds to land thousands of years ago.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #316 - January 31, 2011, 09:47 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on January 31, 2011, 09:45 PM
    I've always believed the biggest Zionists and supporters of Israel are right-wing Christians in the US.

    They are.
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #317 - January 31, 2011, 09:52 PM
    @Hassan

    Come off it brother, no man who's ever scraped his head on the floor of the Sword of the Jew-Slayer Mosque can ever discard homicidal feelings. So why the shameless lies my sweet? Fess up: You are hot for the Jihad.

    @Aphrodite

    What makes you think I give a wan emaciated damn about your politics? I just want to know this: Can I buy you lunch my overweight Desi?
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #318 - January 31, 2011, 10:22 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 31, 2011, 09:52 PM
    @Hassan

    Come off it brother, no man who's ever scraped his head on the floor of the Sword of the Jew-Slayer Mosque can ever discard homicidal feelings. So why the shameless lies my sweet? Fess up: You are hot for the Jihad.


    I keel you! I keel you all! Durka durka mohammed jihad  grin12
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #319 - January 31, 2011, 10:57 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on January 31, 2011, 10:22 PM
    I keel you! I keel you all! Durka durka mohammed jihad  grin12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VHs9m5IUDE
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #320 - January 31, 2011, 11:00 PM
    I have a lot of respect for Mohammad El Baradei he has achieved a lot so far in his lifetime.

    I think he is the perfect choice to lead Egypt at this time he has many friends in the UN who will help him with anything he needs,he has the management skills.
    I have 100% confidence in El Baradei to do the job properly i think he will set a good standard.

    The other significant factor is atheists have more respect and rights they are growing in numbers so i think they will keep the Islamists in line.
    There is a atheist/agnostic from Egypt in this forum who is deadly in debates with muslims about Islam. grin12

    The only thing left to do is go and buy a bottle of Champagne which is the preferred drink for special occasions.

    Cheers to Egypt.

  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #321 - January 31, 2011, 11:12 PM
    To those who don't know Muslims: Please don't confuse "religious Muslim" with "radical/extremist Muslim".

    Most of the religious Egyptian Muslims I know from my family and friends look down on and despise the radical/jihadist type Muslims.

    The average Egyptain in the street will stop work when prayer time comes, unfurl his mat and pray beside his desk, vegetable stall, cigarette kiosk, and then carry on - but it would be a grave mistake to think he/she would support an Islamist govt.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #322 - January 31, 2011, 11:33 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on January 31, 2011, 11:12 PM
    To those who don't know Muslims: Please don't confuse "religious Muslim" with "radical/extremist Muslim".

    Most of the religious Egyptian Muslims I know from my family and friends look down on and despise the radical/jihadist type Muslims.

    The average Egyptain in the street will stop work when prayer time comes, unfurl his mat and pray beside his desk, vegetable stall, cigarette kiosk, and then carry on - but it would be a grave mistake to think he/she would support an Islamist govt.


    That's very encouraging indeed! yes


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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #323 - January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM
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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #324 - January 31, 2011, 11:54 PM
    ^ Delusion of "Islamic moderation = compatibility with liberal democracy" exposed?
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #325 - January 31, 2011, 11:55 PM
    Quote from: Mount A Bison on January 31, 2011, 11:48 PM
    @Hassan

    What a donkey romancer that you are. Nobody claims that all Muslims are itching for Mullah Omar. That is daft. The contention is that not enough will actively agitate against the millenarians. To stand against the concept of Shariah is to stand against the Lord God Himself. No member of Allah's gang is prepared to go that far. What the moderates are reduced to doing is to condemn individual cases of hadud punishments as not meeting the just criteria for execution. Never is the principle of laying on the whip itself beyond the pale.

    Anecdote: In my Salafi incarnation I used often to berate my (older) sister for not observing the hijab. Not once in all my years of giving her an earful did she tell me with her compliments to go to hell. Within the limits of her vision all she could do was to duck and dive. Knowing that she could not repudiate the Shariah only served to further embolden my raids against her sartorial choice. Therein lies the problem.


    Yes, this is the problem MAB. However times have changed - and I sense a greater maturity amongst the Egyptian people.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #326 - February 01, 2011, 12:06 AM
    @Mount A Bison:
    Exactly.  Afro  I've said before that to make religion the source of morality is a dangerous route to go down.  Reason has to be the source of morality in politics.  But as we all agree (except DH), we must not get too hysterical about the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt and Tunisia.  As much as I hate them, I acknowledge they are not the same as the Taliban or the radical salafis.  Even within the Muslim Brotherhood there are varying degrees of Shariah support.  And anyway, I don't think the Egyptian protesters want an Islamist government.
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #327 - February 01, 2011, 12:11 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on January 31, 2011, 11:12 PM
    To those who don't know Muslims: Please don't confuse "religious Muslim" with "radical/extremist Muslim".

    Most of the religious Egyptian Muslims I know from my family and friends look down on and despise the radical/jihadist type Muslims.

    The average Egyptain in the street will stop work when prayer time comes, unfurl his mat and pray beside his desk, vegetable stall, cigarette kiosk, and then carry on - but it would be a grave mistake to think he/she would support an Islamist govt.

    I have to disagree Hassan. Islamists will not campaign and try to get the vote with slogans like 'cutting hands for thieves', 'public stonings', 'banning music', or 'compulsory hijab'. They will say they are for 'justice' 'faith' 'integrity' 'Allah' 'Mohammed'...etc things that are vague but popular.
    The truth us when you ask the average Arab a political question, 8 out of 10 times the answer will be sidetracked to faith and religion. People in that part of the word still think "religious" means honest and "God-fearing".
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #328 - February 01, 2011, 12:19 AM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on February 01, 2011, 12:11 AM
    I have to disagree Hassan. Islamists will not campaign and try to get the vote with slogans like 'cutting hands for thieves', 'public stonings', 'banning music', or 'compulsory hijab'. They will say they are for 'justice' 'faith' 'integrity' 'Allah' 'Mohammed'...etc things that are vague but popular.
    The truth us when you ask the average Arab a political question, 8 out of 10 times the answer will be sidetracked to faith and religion. People in that part of the word still think "religious" means honest and "God-fearing".


    Again, quite true, IA - but I have faith in the Egyptian people. There are too many well educated and intelligent people there to allow the Islamists to take power - they know the dangers as well as you and I - give them credit. Things have shifted and moved on. The people are not as gullible as before and want real change - not the same old crap - whether from the old Arab elite or the Islamists.
  • Re: Egypt protests: Three reported dead in 'day of revolt'
     Reply #329 - February 01, 2011, 12:22 AM
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