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  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #30 - February 27, 2011, 11:52 AM

    Hey alex I'm not talking about the religion buddhism. I'm talking about the actual teachings of the buddah. There is a difference.


    The trouble is people are used to thinking of religion as a 'basic need'.
    Yep! the actual teachings of the Buddha are great!
    They don't give you any ready made solutions, 'direct connection to GOD',etc but act as catalysts to make you think and be aware so as to enable you to fashion your own meaning to life.



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #31 - February 27, 2011, 01:56 PM

    I was sharing a bottle of Burgundy with an old Thai man of my acquaintance when I wondered aloud why it is that of all the creeds which contend for the hearts of men that Buddhism gets such unique good press. "Looka here towelhead" said he, "the trouble with you Abrahamics is that you've regimented your spiritual life to the point of heresy hunts. Dissent from orthodoxy and you are run out of town as the devil's gay lover. But out where the tropical fields grow tall, there's no such thing as heresy owing to the multitude of gods. Atheism, to an extent, is a Western construct because not everyone there in Eastern mysticism genuflects to the same deity. With a pantheon of gods comes a multiplicity of ways to light your spiritual candle, a measure of tolerance that cannot take root in the hegemonic doctrine of One True God. In its place one gets a thousand Divines with a thousand dangling sixth fingers and their subordinate saints and spirits and demigods and enchanting old men trying to steal a meal. No way in such a promiscious theological atmosphere for a Torquemada to set up shop. Impossible. Gotta learn to be more spiritually promiscious. Gotta have religious porn. And about that we in the East have nothing to teach you. Now bottoms up!"

    I was knocked right back. Religious porn? "No sheeit, "  I said, "that liquor's got you real messed up slant eyes. Your wife is def gonna say those hairy Islamics have put a spell on my baby. No more spirits for you brother. Just stick with soft drinks."
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #32 - February 27, 2011, 02:24 PM

    The Buddha Replies to the Deva[/b]

    On a certain day when the Blessed One
    dwelt at Jetavana, the garden of Anathapindika,
    a celestial deva came to him in the shape of a Brahman
    enlightened and wearing clothing as white as snow.

    The deva asked,

    ..............

    The deva said,


    The deva said,
    ..............


    huh!., that   is interesting answering  Ishina ., I know who buddhu is but who is that brainless  "deva"  guy  with brainless questions??  

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #33 - February 27, 2011, 02:38 PM

    All buddhists are not monks,there's a lot of freedom for the followers to live as they think is fit. It's more of a philosophy than religion. Whatever BS there's,real or perceived, is definitely not harmful for non followers.
     


    1.
    It's more of a filosofy... Hmmm... So which one is it? If it's philosophy then why are we comparing oranges to apples, i.e. islam to buddhism? Or is it still a religion? Or some of it is religion? If so, then is this different from islam? No, because some of it is religion - wahhabi, and some of it "more of a philosophy" - sufism.
    2.
    I will go and search for proof of harmfulness of stupid monks meditating within monasteries to outside population now. If I succeed, do you promise to burn all your incense?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #34 - February 27, 2011, 03:00 PM

    Uh, yeah, OK.




    No, well, sure.

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #35 - February 27, 2011, 03:15 PM

    @Alex

    Which rogue monk touched you where and when? So much passion in your words. It’s dangerous. The trouble with Hypo the cow worshipper is that wrapped around his waist is the legs of a Thai beauty.  She murmurs delicate words  in his ear with the exotic  ring of a Buddhist guru. No way that he can talk sense about the religion or philosophy or life style choice or whatever he claims it is. Call it a conflict of interest. Call it the promptings of the flesh. But for the love of God don’t call it objective analysis. There, caught between the hairy thighs of an enchanting lovely he picked up at the Bong Bong club, his IQ shrinks in inverse proportion to his rising manhood.  Like the trauma you suffered at the hands of the monk he cannot dispassionately talk about so intimate a subject. So you both proceed to spout delightful nonsense. Its what physicists call Conservation of Symmetry.

    indeed they influenced  better than what bison does/doing  at cemb..   http://sacred-sex.org/buddhism/14th-dalai-lama-and-sex

    LOL

    What the hell are you talking about Yez? At least I don't post links to porno sites like you've done there. Quit showing me up. That's no way to treat your lover.

    Whats so great about meditating all day and walking around in a stupid robe with a stupid smile while spreading bs about your past lifes anyways? Who pays for such "productive" way of life?

    Funny this. Just give me the name of the rogue monk.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #36 - February 27, 2011, 03:23 PM

    LOL @ conservation of symmetry, but quit using referenced to physics, it's not my subject - I had to run and get my copy of "physics for dummies".

    When you put it this way about the monk, it really makes me wonder what other memories I have suppressed. What again was the number of that good shrink?

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #37 - February 27, 2011, 05:18 PM

    No, well, sure.


    Yeah, no, duh.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #38 - February 27, 2011, 05:22 PM

    Yeah, no, duh.



    Lmao this matches the Koranic alif ,laam, meem!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #39 - February 27, 2011, 05:33 PM


     What the hell are you talking about Yez? At least I don't post links to porno sites like you've done there.  Quit showing me up. That's no way to treat your lover.  Funny this. Just give me the name of the rogue monk.


    What...Why do the folks of CEMB need a porn link when they can read your posts Bison  The rogue monk??   Your  posts have enough pornography  and I would not be surprised if some one is reading, responding  your posts and wanking & jacking off on the key board/screen..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #40 - February 27, 2011, 06:15 PM

    Yeah, no, duh.



    I give up LOL

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #41 - February 28, 2011, 11:04 AM

    1. It's more of a filosofy... Hmmm... So which one is it? If it's philosophy then why are we comparing oranges to apples, i.e. islam to buddhism? Or is it still a religion? Or some of it is religion? If so, then is this different from islam? No, because some of it is religion - wahhabi, and some of it "more of a philosophy" - sufism.


    You might find this interesting:

    The Buddha referred to his teachings simply as Dhamma-vinaya - "the doctrine and discipline" - but for centuries people have tried to categorise the teachings in various ways, trying to fit them into the prevailing molds of cultural, philosophical, and religious thought. Buddhism is an ethical system - a way of life - that leads to a very specific goal and that possesses some aspects of both religion and philosophy:

    It is a philosophy...

    Like most philosophies, Buddhism attempts to frame the complexities of human existence in a way that reassures us that there is, in fact, some underlying order to the Universe. In the Four Noble Truths the Buddha crisply summarises our predicament: there is suffering, it has a cause, it has an end, and there is a way to reach the end. The teachings on kamma provide a thorough and logically self-consistent description of the nature of cause-and-effect. And even the Buddhist view of cosmology, which some may at first find farfetched, is a logical extension of the law of kamma. According to the Dhamma, a deep and unshakable logic pervades the world.

    It is not a philosophy...

    Unlike most philosophical systems, which rely on speculation and the power of reason to arrive at logical truths, Buddhism relies on the direct observation of one's personal experience and on honing certain skills in order to gain true understanding and wisdom. Idle speculation has no place in Buddhist practice. Although studying in the classroom, reading books, and engaging in spirited debate can play a vital part in developing a cognitive understanding of basic Buddhist concepts, the heart of Buddhism can never be realised this way. The Dhamma is not an abstract system of thought designed to delight the intellect; it is a roadmap to be used, one whose essential purpose is to lead the practitioner to the ultimate goal, nibbana.

    It is a religion...

    At the heart of each of the world's great religions lies a transcendent ideal around which its doctrinal principles orbit. In Buddhism this truth is nibbana, the hallmark of the cessation of suffering and stress, a truth of utter transcendence that stands in singular distinction from anything we might encounter in our ordinary sensory experience. Nibbana is the sine qua non of Buddhism, the guiding star and ultimate goal towards which all the Buddha's teachings point. Because it aims at such a lofty transcendent ideal, we might fairly call Buddhism a religion.

    It is not a religion...

    In stark contrast to the world's other major religions, however, Buddhism invokes no divinity, no supreme Creator or supreme Self, no Holy Spirit or omniscient loving God to whom we might appeal for salvation. Instead, Buddhism calls for us to hoist ourselves up by our own bootstraps: to develop the discernment we need to distinguish between those qualities within us that are unwholesome and those that are truly noble and good, and to learn how to nourish the good ones and expunge the bad. This is the path to Buddhism's highest perfection, nibbana. Not even the Buddha can take you to that goal; you alone must do the work necessary to complete the journey:

    "Therefore, Ananda, be islands unto yourselves, refuges unto yourselves, seeking no external refuge; with the Dhamma as your island, the Dhamma as your refuge, seeking no other refuge." ~ Digha Nikaya 16

    Despite its non-theistic nature, however, Buddhist practice does call for a certain kind of faith. It is not blind faith, an uncritical acceptance of the Buddha's word as transmitted through scripture. Instead it is saddha, a confidence born of taking refuge in the Triple Gem; it is a willingness to trust that the Dhamma, when practiced diligently, will lead to the rewards promised by the Buddha. Saddha is a provisional acceptance of the teachings, that is ever subject to critical evaluation during the course of one's practice, and which must be balanced by one's growing powers of discernment. For many Buddhists, this faith is expressed and reinforced through traditional devotional practices, such as bowing before a Buddha statue and reciting passages from the early Pali texts. Despite a superficial resemblance to the rites of many theistic religions, however, these activities are neither prayers nor pleas for salvation directed towards a transcendent Other. They are instead useful and inspiring gestures of humility and respect for the profound nobility and worth of the Triple Gem.


    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #42 - February 28, 2011, 11:10 AM

    What...Why do the folks of CEMB need a porn link when they can read your posts Bison  The rogue monk??   Your  posts have enough pornography  and I would not be surprised if some one is reading, responding  your posts and wanking & jacking off on the key board/screen..

    LOL

    Look at this donkey romancer. Better a man touches himself than spam message boards with daft YouTube videos. I'd happily wager that your whole output from end to end is nine tenths vids that have no bearing on the topic at hand. I bet your response will be to post another such. Over to you.

    @Alex

    I'm glad to see you fess up. The first step to recovery is ...

    I await the day when the cow worshipper Hypo admits the truth of his Thai adventures. The man simply can't be taken seriously till we have full disclosure of how many times a night. Or do you reckon the lassie in question is Ishina? I wouldn't put it past him brother.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #43 - February 28, 2011, 11:11 AM

    huh!., that   is interesting answering  Ishina ., I know who buddhu is but who is that brainless  "deva"  guy  with brainless questions??  


    Deva = Being, angel, god, spirit, immortal, mortal - depending on who you ask.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #44 - February 28, 2011, 12:54 PM

    Deva = Being, angel, god, spirit, immortal, mortal - depending on who you ask.

    I am asking YOU Ishina.,   in other words by saying that  "people  are saying that"

      they don't know  who the hell is that "Dev" guy  is" did I get you right Ishina?

     I don't know how to mix and match these things.,  this  "Angel, god, spirit , Immortal " refers to  something unknown and  "Being,  mortal" - is essentially something well known.  Any ways you are smart and well read., I am glad to read your posts  but I still I think you need Burkha.  

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #45 - February 28, 2011, 01:08 PM

    LOL

    Look at this donkey romancer
     
     Or do you reckon the lassie  .......

    It is all in your eyes and words bison.,  

    Well romance is Romance., once you are in love and confuse that with  lust., It doesn't matter whether the other thing  is  person/ Donkey/monkey/dog or Man  or woman.. good /bad looking  or  a computer screen.,    wanker is wanker and joker is a joker  bison.,

    Forget and forgive me all that what I say. I know you are far better than what you put out on the screen unlike yeezevee's  irrelevant tubes. But I am sure you know that

    "A picture is worth a thousand words" But in modern times a little tube is worth of billion words" Off course they have to be relevant to the discussion .

    Any way what the hell is that  word  lassie??

    Is that .. that Good dog in that movie "lassie"??  Damn you use strange words..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #46 - February 28, 2011, 01:16 PM

    ^ Funny. Generous words for me too. Fact is I'm just an old perv on the prowl for pretty young things on the web in whose ear I might whisper intriguing lies. I'm much too ugly to land a babe in the real world. So what brings you here my boy?
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #47 - February 28, 2011, 01:27 PM

    ^ Funny. Generous words for me too. Fact is I'm just an old perv on the prowl for pretty young things on the web  in whose ear I might whisper intriguing lies. I'm much too ugly to land a babe in the real world.

    I do give credit where it belongs bison.,  that is the problem with you You act and write rubbish that is not worthy of you

    Quote
    So what brings you here my boy?

    to where?? to cemb ??   lol.. well you don't know much about yeez. and you don't need to..

    You didn't tell me what Lassie is bison.,

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #48 - February 28, 2011, 01:34 PM

    I am asking YOU Ishina.,   in other words by saying that  "people  are saying that  they don't know  who the hell is that "Dev" guy  is" did I get you right Ishina?


    Well, simply put, the term deva is a catch-all term referring to all beings in superior states i.e, any being longer lived or that has attained a degree of bliss above the normal human form. In Buddhist cosmology, there are various levels of existence and planes. Deva populate these other planes, and on rare occasions visit this plane. It gets complicated beyond that.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #49 - February 28, 2011, 01:54 PM

    Thanks, Ishina, for religious propaganda. I hope it was a copy-paste?

    First, I will not argue with anyone about Buddha's true intentions of how his teachings were meant to be understood. Just as successfully we can deny all Muslims today (shia's, sufis, wahhabis and salafis and others) as distorters of true teachings of Mo.

    "It is a philosophy...

    Like most philosophies, Buddhism attempts to frame the complexities of human existence in a way that reassures us that there is, in fact, some underlying order to the Universe. In the Four Noble Truths..."


    OK. Let's look at the 4NTs.

    1st: All existence is suffering
     2nd: Suffering is caused by selfish craving
     3rd: The eradication of selfish craving brings about the cessation of suffering and enables one to attain Nirvana
    4th: There is a path by which this eradication can be achieved, namely the discipline of the Eightfold Path.

    The Eightfold Path consists of: (right views, right thinking, right speech, right action, right way of life, right endeavour, right mindfulness, right meditation)


    Hmmm. So, you suffer because you're selfish? A very different and much more noble concept than "God punishes humanity for its evils". So much more philosophical.

    Eradicate selfish cravings. I don't care about other cravings but if craving a lot of $$ makes you unhappy, perhaps a generous donation to the local shrine will cure your suffering? That's what Buddha, SAWS, would do. So not religious, so philosophical.

    Eight fold path. It's starting to get more complicated now, so we will need experts, I mean saints, more spiritual and more enligtened philosophers than you, regular peasants, to help you realize what is the best way to live and for which party Buddha would vote. So philosophical, so not religious.

    So much for Marxist ($$) aspect of this "philosophy" here. The psychological aspect, I'm sure you realize, lies in lies about reincarnations. Afraid to die? Don't be, a pure dev-ine being that I am, I have travelled to see my past lives and I can assure you that we are immortal. Let me make up more stuff, to deal with this unfortunate realization of yours that you too will die. Oh and by the way if you give some of your filthy ungodly money to the shrine, you will not come back to this earth to suffer as a warm Wink

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #50 - February 28, 2011, 01:57 PM

    Well, simply put, the term deva is a catch-all term referring to all beings in superior states i.e, any being longer lived or that has attained a degree of bliss above the normal human form. In Buddhist cosmology, there are various levels of existence and planes. Deva populate these other planes, and on rare occasions visit this plane. It gets complicated beyond that.

    It is all confusing to me.,  "This Plane" means this earth??   You mean to say on rare occasions this "Dev" comes on to earth meets some people??  Here what all i think is the brain sensors playing the mind game.


    If I understood  correctly, the Buddhism is an evolution of Indian hindu/paganism., Because of inherent freedom that is built in to this paganism/Hinduism  it evolves philosophically, politically and socially. Some times it goes in non violent direction some times it chooses Islamic root.

     if I Understand Buddha was an enlightened hindu king guy who was frustrated with violence in life   http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/index.htm    Buddhism allows you to be what you want to be without hurting others., Rest of all the stuff in it is stories over stories.

    I say One Golden Rule enough to live this life  " be good and do good" as far as possible  and it is there in everey religious scripture.

    Quote







    rest of stuff in all religions are nothing but stories over stories over stories..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #51 - February 28, 2011, 02:05 PM

    @Yez

    Very coy are we? Come off it, you are here for the young boys too aren't you? Tell me no lies. A lassie is what I put my penis into. But how would you know?
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #52 - February 28, 2011, 02:07 PM

    Thanks, Ishina, for religious propaganda. I hope it was a copy-paste?................

    First, I will not argue with anyone about Buddha's true intentions of how his teachings were meant to be understood. Just as successfully we can deny all Muslims today (shia's, sufis, wahhabis and salafis and others) as distorters of true teachings of Mo.

    dear Alex , we have to realize here ., even if we consider everything as propaganda, the bottom line is.,

    "If we follow the core  teachings of Budhha you will try to become a Budhha., may be a useless and harmless guy"
     If we follow the core  teachings of Christ you will try to become a Christ. Again you may get killed on the way but a harmless guy"

    But if you follow core teachings of Islam and Muhammad, you will become a war monger, a criminal, a control freak, and sex obsessed dirty old man.

    People question Islam, not because it is as stupid as other religions., they question it because it generates dangerous social structure that is detrimental to humanity.  On top of it, Muhammad followers will not allow you to question it.

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #53 - February 28, 2011, 02:30 PM

    Thanks, Ishina, for religious propaganda. I hope it was a copy-paste?


    You asked. I just assumed you were genuinely interested. Don't shoot the messenger.

    Hmmm. So, you suffer because you're selfish? A very different and much more noble concept than "God punishes humanity for its evils".

    Yes, a very different concept.

    Eradicate selfish cravings. I don't care about other cravings but if craving a lot of $$ makes you unhappy, perhaps a generous donation to the local shrine will cure your suffering? That's what Buddha, SAWS, would do. So not religious, so philosophical.


    What is the truth? What is the value of the statement? Would Buddha want you to do that? He's not around to even ask. He died millennia ago.

    This is your statement. The words of a mere man. A prudent person can draw their own conclusion and can take responsibilty for if their own choices in life, and choose to put faith in your words or not to. I wonder why people put faith in men, thinking they are putting faith in a higher power. But it happens. Religion is a door that is always open - for the weak, the meek, the lost, the corruptible, the corrupted, the predatory, the anointed, the manipulating, the gullible.

    The psychological aspect, I'm sure you realize, lies in lies about reincarnations. Afraid to die? Don't be, a pure dev-ine being that I am, I have travelled to see my past lives and I can assure you that we are immortal.


    From his last words:

    "My disciples. The last moment has come, but do not forget that death is
    but the vanishing of a body. The body was born from parents and was
    nourished by food, so sickness and death is unavoidable. But the true
    Buddha is not a human body: it is Enlightenment. A human body must
    vanish, but the wisdom of Enlightenment will exist forever in the truths of
    the Dharma, and in the practice of the Dharma. He who sees my body only,
    is not the one who truly sees me. He who accepts my teachings, is the one
    who truly sees me. After my death, Truth shall be your teacher. Follow Truth
    and you will be true to me. During the last forty-five years of my life I have
    kept back nothing from my teaching. There is no secret teaching, no hidden
    meaning, everything has been taught openly and clearly. My dear disciples;
    this is the end. In a moment I shall be passing into Nirvana.”

    Dharma = teaching of Buddha or your living experience.

    Nirvana = Ultimate peace.

    Make of it what you will.


    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #54 - February 28, 2011, 02:37 PM

    It is all confusing to me.,  "This Plane" means this earth??   You mean to say on rare occasions this "Dev" comes on to earth meets some people??


    Yeah. Some even long to be in this plane, for living experience. Apparantly.

    Rest of all the stuff in it is stories over stories.

    Yeah, plenty of folklore and poetic excess in Buddhism too.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #55 - February 28, 2011, 03:42 PM


    Yes, a very different concept.




    Yup. One implies that that the reason for our troubles is within ourselves. And the other implies that the reason for our troubles comes from within ourselves. One says that we need the philosophy to cure the situation and the other - iman. Why would I see parallels?




     A prudent person can draw their own conclusion and can take responsibilty for if their own choices in life, and choose to put faith in your words or not to. I wonder why people put faith in men, thinking they are putting faith in a higher power. But it happens. Religion is a door that is always open - for the weak, the meek, the lost, the corruptible, the corrupted, the predatory, the anointed, the manipulating, the gullible.




    So majority of humanity concerns you none. No empathy with the weak. No compassion for the retards.

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #56 - February 28, 2011, 03:56 PM

    Alex, I think for some reason you are going orthogonal to what Ishina is saying., may be you don't like some Buddhists

    Yup. One implies that that the reason for our troubles is within ourselves. And the other implies that the reason for our troubles comes from within ourselves. One says that we need the philosophy to cure the situation and the other - iman. Why would I see parallels?

    In a way that is true with one simple condition and that is .,

    Every one should keep their shit within themselves ., don't throw it on others and don't  force others in to your  shit

    .. here  the shit means - Iman ...lol..

    Quote
    So majority of humanity concerns you none. No empathy with the weak. No compassion for the retards.

    ah ha!., that is different game., indeed you are right,  that Nirvana(whatever) of   Buddhism appears to be doesn't care about " empathy with the weak or  compassion for the retards"., in fact it doesn't care about self itself and the future of the self. So for all practical reasons it is use less for  society to build and grow.,

    but.. but we have to realize here., Buddhism and the followers of Buddha are NOT going to object you or any one,  if you are showing empathy with the weak  and compassion for the retards ..old folks.. weaker sections of the society etc..etc..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #57 - February 28, 2011, 03:57 PM

    Sensei Alan Watts on Buddhism:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizns6Rm34M

     Afro
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #58 - February 28, 2011, 04:20 PM

    Yup. One implies that that the reason for our troubles is within ourselves. And the other implies that the reason for our troubles comes from within ourselves. One says that we need the philosophy to cure the situation and the other - iman. Why would I see parallels?

    Putting aside the fact that you’ve oversimplified the ‘Four Noble Truths’ beyond recognition, we’ll go with your interpretation anyway. So, who exactly is responsible for your selfishness?

    So majority of humanity concerns you none. No empathy with the weak. No compassion for the retards.

    How did you draw this conclusion from anything I said?

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #59 - February 28, 2011, 09:10 PM

    Putting aside the fact that you’ve oversimplified the ‘Four Noble Truths’ beyond recognition, we’ll go with your interpretation anyway. So, who exactly is responsible for your selfishness?

    You mean in Buddhism or in my understanding? I think you are missing the point in any case. The point is the "philosophy" can be easily used to control masses just like any other religion. Its a religion if it talks about other planes and reincarnations and other superstitions that have to be believed. Let me repeat it - its a religion.

    How on earth did I draw the conclusion? Well, would you agree that at least 49% of humanity are weaker than average, have less than average intellect? Strength is relative. So in a society there will always be weak ones, whom you despise and blame for being gullible and abused by religious. What good is such an aristocratic attitude in 21st century?

    Sorry for being brief, but I'm getting tired of breaking things down to really simple arguments. If I jumped over a few conclusions again, I will explain, sorry in advance.

    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
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