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OP - March 08, 2011, 10:08 PM

Hello,

At the third or fourth prodding, I've taken the plunge and actually joined the forums.

What's there to know about me? Well, let's see: the roots of my unbelief began when I was 14, when I reasoned that an all-powerful god that apparently required our obedience and was prepared to reward or punish us accordingly required no faith. Twenty years later, I've moved on from questioning to dismissing the question of divine existence as irrelevant (immanence be damned) to deciding that gods don't exist. An especially reluctant application of Ockham's razor, if you will..

I'm skipping a lot of detail here, I know, but I'm sure what else needs to come out will do so in chat

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Reply #1 - March 08, 2011, 10:13 PM

Question 1: Who's been prodding you and where?

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Reply #2 - March 08, 2011, 10:15 PM

Quote from: toor on March 08, 2011, 10:08 PM
Hello,

At the third or fourth prodding, I've taken the plunge and actually joined the forums.

What's there to know about me? Well, let's see: the roots of my unbelief began when I was 14, when I reasoned that an all-powerful god that apparently required our obedience and was prepared to reward or punish us accordingly required no faith. Twenty years later, I've moved on from questioning to dismissing the question of divine existence as irrelevant (immanence be damned) to deciding that gods don't exist. An especially reluctant application of Ockham's razor, if you will..

I'm skipping a lot of detail here, I know, but I'm sure what else needs to come out will do so in chat

wait..wait don't skip details man.. So you began your journey when you were 14? what now you are 17 year old ?? lol.. but you are NOT going shift the burden of proof for Allah right?? you are going to discuss and support me in nailing these guys here and proving that Allah is there.. am i right toor??

and what is the name "toor"?? how about Noor or Nour??

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Reply #3 - March 08, 2011, 10:29 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on March 08, 2011, 10:15 PM
wait..wait don't skip details man.. So you began your journey when you were now you are 17 year old ?? lol.. but you are NOT going shift the burden of proof for Allah right?? you are going to discuss and support me in nailing this guys and proving that Allah is there..

Um... double that figure.

As to the burden of proof, that burden lies with anyone making a claim of divine existence. Naturalistic 'explanations' haven't been useful for oh, a couple of centuries now..

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and what is the name "toor"?? how about Noor or Nour??

A unix joke. If I may present some illumination of my own:

ht tp:/ /ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981111

(pardon the link fail. Apparently, I'm not allowed to post those..)

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Reply #4 - March 08, 2011, 10:33 PM

Hi there.
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Reply #5 - March 08, 2011, 10:38 PM

Quote from: IsLame on March 08, 2011, 10:13 PM
Question 1: Who's been prodding you and where?

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Reply #6 - March 08, 2011, 10:40 PM

Quote from: Prince Spinoza on March 08, 2011, 10:33 PM
Hi there.

Hello, Sir Isaac. Hope the alchemy's working out

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Reply #7 - March 08, 2011, 10:50 PM

Welcome to the forum, toor.

@yeezevee: Where did you get 17 from? See highlighted numbers below from the OP:
Quote from: toor on March 08, 2011, 10:08 PM
the roots of my unbelief began when I was 14, when I reasoned that an all-powerful god that apparently required our obedience and was prepared to reward or punish us accordingly required no faith. Twenty years later, I've moved on from

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Reply #8 - March 08, 2011, 11:04 PM

You guys forgot to give the complimentary parrot!!! Whats wrong with you people!

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Reply #9 - March 08, 2011, 11:43 PM

Enjoy your stay, newcomer.

Plenty of good stuff 'round here.

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Reply #10 - March 08, 2011, 11:46 PM

Welcome to the revolution comrade.
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Reply #11 - March 08, 2011, 11:58 PM

What's up, toor

Lots of newbies these days, it seems.

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Reply #12 - March 09, 2011, 12:02 AM

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Reply #13 - March 09, 2011, 08:28 AM

Welcome nice to see so many new rope joining I wonder how many of us are actually out there?
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Reply #14 - March 09, 2011, 02:03 PM

Welcome anti-god!

I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
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Reply #15 - March 11, 2011, 07:14 PM

Is this CEMB's birthday? So many new guys (and gals)

I'm open for debate (of why we should re-/embrace Islam), but I will no longer participate in this forum. Message me if you need anything. Good luck and may you all find your way... again...
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Reply #16 - March 11, 2011, 09:46 PM

Quote from: superomario on March 09, 2011, 08:28 AM
Welcome nice to see so many new rope joining I wonder how many of us are actually out there?

I know, when I first joined I thought there were only a handful of us ex muslims in the world

And welcome root..

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Reply #17 - March 11, 2011, 11:28 PM

Thanks, everybody I've been made very welcome, so I'll stick around

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Reply #18 - March 11, 2011, 11:41 PM

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@yeezevee: Where did you get 17 from? See highlighted numbers below from the OP:

Quote from: toor on March 08, 2011, 10:29 PM
Um... double that figure.

what.. 20years you are questioning Islam and other religions?? Toor you keep too many secrets with in you., that is not good for health., where were you hiding for 20 years?? in an "apostate closet"??
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As to the burden of proof, that burden lies with anyone making a claim of divine existence. Naturalistic 'explanations' haven't been useful for oh, a couple of centuries now..

O.k., there is no divine existence., but toor ., don't we have the existance of "Divinity" ??
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A unix joke. If I may present some illumination of my own:

ht tp:/ /ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19981111

(pardon the link fail. Apparently, I'm not allowed to post those..)

well you can post any link you like as long as it doesn't derail the discussion., But I was thinking "Toor" is a short from for Tanveer. Any way I am glad you joined the forum though 10 years late.. lol..

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Reply #19 - March 12, 2011, 12:23 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on March 11, 2011, 11:41 PM
I was thinking "Toor" is a short from for Tanveer.

Yep. just like yeezeevee is short for yazeedi

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Reply #20 - March 12, 2011, 12:28 AM

Quote from: donatelo on March 12, 2011, 12:23 AM
Yep. just like yeezeevee is short for yazeedi

Yes..Toor..Yes., I forgot to tell you that.,

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Reply #21 - March 12, 2011, 12:36 AM

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Reply #22 - March 12, 2011, 12:37 AM

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what.. 20years you are questioning Islam and other religions?? Toor you keep too many secrets with in you., that is not good for health., where were you hiding for 20 years?? in an "apostate closet"??

I was undecided, and to some extent keeping my options open.

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O.k., there is no divine existence., but toor ., don't we have the existance of "Divinity" ??

As a term usually associated with belief in divine transcendence, yes. I'd suggest that its existence - beyond the form of a happy mental image - remains unproven.

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