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  • Question: Which one (if any) are you more inclined to side with? (Give reasons)
  • Israel - 50 (30.5%)
  • Palestine - 114 (69.5%)
  • Total Voters: 163

 Topic: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?

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  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #510 - October 11, 2011, 10:27 PM

    They do use AKs? I heard that Americans would use them because they were more robust than M-16s, but I haven't read anything about the IDF using them. Do you have a source or something?



    I know that their navy commandos use them because they're more reliable when they get wet, wouldn't be surprised if other factions use them too.





    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?168590-Sayeret-Matkal-pics/page3

    Haven't browsed that forum for ages *sighs*


    Also, I think it says something like "of the Arabs".

    Some of the websites I came across suggested that it was staged, based on the soldier's imbalanced poise and how the girl apparently looks unperturbed. I'm withholding judgment until further evidence comes to light.



    Yeah its either fake or from a different country.


    Of course we shouldn't, and of course there are. I actually admire them -- it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in, and really go through with it. I doubt many of them kill civilians because they want to or because they hate them -- I think they believe it is the right thing to do, the lesser of two evils, because in the long run it would "benefit the Ummah".


    Hmm well even though I agree with some of that (the lesser of the two evils esp) I understand what you're trying to say some of my family were/are ex-jihadis and quite a few friends are Al-Qaeda sympathisers but they're really nice--as long as I don't tell them I'm an exxie  Tongue
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #511 - October 14, 2011, 03:30 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6g02cHP9UA

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #512 - October 14, 2011, 04:15 PM

    They do use AKs? I heard that Americans would use them because they were more robust than M-16s, but I haven't read anything about the IDF using them. Do you have a source or something?


    Sometimes they do. Depends on the unit but mostly commando/spec op units use them. Yes they are more robust than M-16s and as Aphrodite said they're better when wet but also they provide plausible deniability on black ops.

    The IDF also use the IMI Galil which is basically a heavier, modified AK that uses 5.56mm rounds (same as M-16).

    fuck you
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #513 - October 15, 2011, 02:22 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79J7S95Fj2g

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #514 - October 20, 2011, 06:25 PM

    So I met this guy at work, he to me looked Algerian or Tunisian,  we always said morning and evening, but one day he came up to me asked me where I come from, and I asked him where he came from, he is from Israel.  We had a friendly discussion, and according to him all the Palestinians who left Palestine they just ran away of their own accord, they just got up and left their homes and land, they were never evicted by Israel  Cheesy

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #515 - October 20, 2011, 06:36 PM

    So I met this guy at work, he to me looked Algerian or Tunisian,  we always said morning and evening, but one day he came up to me asked me where I come from, and I asked him where he came from, he is from Israel.  We had a friendly discussion, and according to him all the Palestinians who left Palestine they just ran away of their own accord, they just got up and left their homes and land, they were never evicted by Israel  Cheesy

    then he doesn't know history of Israel and history of Juice..  Ask him to join CEMB I will pour him some juice ..  

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #516 - October 20, 2011, 06:52 PM

    It just shows how naive some of them can be, or maybe that's the story he is hoping to convince innocent people who do not know the history.. the other funny thing he mentioned is that he couldn't understand why a Palestinian who lives in the UK or anywhere in Europe/US with a UK passport (or other passport) would consider themselves Palestinian? .... I am errrr because they are !!!  Then I asked him how long he's been in the UK, he said around 15 years, and he did get the British passport, then I told him so how is it that he can still consider himself Israeli (and his children who were born here to be Israeli) when he doesn't think UK Palestinians should consider themselves Palestinians??

    This guy is not thick, he is very intelligent and has a job that requires high qualifications and experience, so have no idea why he is so naive like that when he talks about Palestinians?

    Teach us to care and not to care / Teach us to sit still.
    What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other
    You are the music while the music lasts.
    T.S.Eliot
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #517 - October 20, 2011, 06:55 PM

    Bigots convince themselves of all kinds of bullshit to justify their bigotry.

    fuck you
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #518 - October 20, 2011, 07:25 PM

    Bigots convince themselves of all kinds of bullshit to justify their bigotry.

    Yap .. you and I do that quite often...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #519 - October 21, 2011, 06:37 AM

    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #520 - October 28, 2011, 02:28 PM

    the ironic and funny thing is you got all these so called 'anti-imperialists' who are on the pro-palestine bandwagon, who are obsessed with the idea of there existing a piece of a land called 'Palestine', when the term/word palestine itself is a commemoration/ode to imperialism.

    The name Palestine was the name given to the land when it was stolen by roman imperialists at the time when it used to be called 'Judea', who decided to plaster their colonial stamp on their new acquistion and renamed it Syria-Palaestina. Palestine in not even an arab or islamic word ! It's derived from the greek word 'Pelesteth'. The name 'Falastine' that arabs use today is a arab dialetic incorrect pronounciation of 'Palestine'. In the arabic accent p's are pronounced as F's.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #521 - October 28, 2011, 02:51 PM

    I find it neither funny nor ironic nor relevant.

    fuck you
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #522 - October 28, 2011, 03:45 PM

    I find it neither funny nor ironic nor relevant.

    O.k., How about this Raccoon??

    How about moving 5million Juice and Juice loving Christians  out of US of A in to Israel/Palestine and moving all Palestinians in to US of A , Would that be acceptable for you??   I also want to move some <><><> from Pakistan in to US of A and move some Christians of US of A in to Pakistan .

    I think we need large scale movement of religious bums across the globe..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #523 - October 30, 2011, 08:30 PM

    Arabs weigh alternatives to Palestinian UN bid  says news..



    Quote
    DOHA: Arab foreign ministers said Sunday they would look into alternative action if their efforts fail to secure full Palestinian membership of the United Nations.

    &#8220;We support the Palestinian demand for full UN membership,&#8221; they said in a statement after talks in Doha. But the Arab League agreed to form a &#8220;committee of experts to study legal and political alternatives.&#8221;

    Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas, who attended Sunday&#8217;s meeting, officially submitted the request for Palestinian membership in September, a move which the US has threatened to veto if it comes to a vote in the UN Security Council.

    The Council is expected to meet on November 11 to decide on whether to hold a formal vote on the membership application.

    The controversy at the United Nations also extends to UNESCO&#8217;s general assembly, where members are expected to vote on Monday on whether to grant Palestine full membership status.

    The vote in favour of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation would threaten the organisation&#8217;s millions of dollars in US funding.

    The Arab League&#8217;s statement on Sunday expressed &#8220;support for the Palestinian campaign for full membership in UNESCO.&#8221;

    Though the US has veto power in the Security Council, it cannot veto a decision at UNESCO, where a two-thirds majority of its 193 voting members is sufficient for the Palestinian membership bid to pass.

    The same applies to the UN General Assembly, where Palestinian officials have said they would take their campaign for statehood if the Security Council bid is vetoed.

    Israel rejects the Palestinian request, arguing a Palestinian state is achievable only through negotiations.

    OK... what alternative bid??

     How about spending some money for education and infra structure development of Palestinian areas .. Open some Universities for  Palestine kids in Jordan, Egypt, Syria and put some in to schools to educate kids in those so-called occupied territories??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #524 - November 07, 2011, 08:32 PM

    I find it neither funny nor ironic nor relevant.


    it's completely relevant as the whole argument is for the existence of a state named 'Palestine'
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #525 - November 08, 2011, 12:50 PM

    So I met this guy at work, he to me looked Algerian or Tunisian,  we always said morning and evening, but one day he came up to me asked me where I come from, and I asked him where he came from, he is from Israel.  We had a friendly discussion, and according to him all the Palestinians who left Palestine they just ran away of their own accord, they just got up and left their homes and land, they were never evicted by Israel  Cheesy

    A report from the military intelligence SHAI of the Haganah entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948", dated 30 June 1948, affirms that:

    At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%… of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases…
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This report was declassified in the 80s after pressure to release it by Israeli historians.

    The source couldn't be better, and it verifies accounts of Palestinian refugees. But if people are willing to believe the ridiculous in the first place, I doubt evidence counts for much.

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #526 - November 08, 2011, 12:55 PM

    A report from the military intelligence SHAI of the Haganah entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948", dated 30 June 1948, affirms that:

    At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations." To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%… of the emigration". A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases…
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This report was declassified in the 80s after pressure to release it by Israeli historians.

    The source couldn't be better, and it verifies accounts of Palestinian refugees. But if people are willing to believe the ridiculous in the first place, I doubt evidence counts for much.


    Off course evidence counts, Truth counts, history counts and  ground realities count.. So total 73% of Muslims were expelled by juice from the so-called Palestine..   Give me the ball part number in terms millions that were expelled by juice through out the history of Israel posthuman

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #527 - November 08, 2011, 01:22 PM

    Muslim? A third of them are Christian.

    So-called Palestine?

    They were expelled from Palestine. There's no debate about it.




    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #528 - November 08, 2011, 01:33 PM

    Muslim? A third of them are Christian.

    So-called Palestine?

    They were expelled from Palestine. There's no debate about it.

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    O.K. third of them were Christians.. and 2/3 are Muslims. So how many million of of Muslims that 2/3 rd transforms posthuman??

    No need to have debate about Christians of Palestine posthuman., They are expandable..   ., That has been done By Islam through out the middles East starting from the day Alleged Prophet of Islam started preaching hotch-potch monotheism from Jewish and Christian religious books..  

    Talk to me about Muslims of Palestine posthuman..  Remove Islam , remove mosques and convert all Palestinian Muslims in to Christianity I will solve the issue of Palestine in one year if not in one month posthuman...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #529 - November 08, 2011, 01:37 PM

    Arabs weigh alternatives to Palestinian UN bid &#160; says news..

    (Clicky for piccy!)
    OK... what alternative bid??

     How about spending some money for education and infra structure development of Palestinian areas .. Open some Universities for &#160;Palestine kids in Jordan, Egypt, Syria and put some in to schools to educate kids in those so-called occupied territories??


       
    World Bank: Palestinian Institutions Performing; Sustainable Growth Still Absent

    Jerusalem, April 7, 2011 -- The World Bank published today its report to the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (AHLC), a forum of donors to the Palestinian Authority (PA), which will meet in Brussels on April 13. The report examines two key areas critical to the functioning of a Palestinian state: The strength of PA institutions and the prospects for sustainable Palestinian economic growth.

    The authors reaffirm their assessment, conveyed at the previous meeting of the AHLC that &#8220;if the PA maintains its performance in institution-building and delivery of public services, it is well-positioned for the establishment of a state at any point in the near future.&#8221; They report a further improvement in the quality of the PA&#8217;s public financial management (PFM) and note that education and health in the West Bank and Gaza (WB&G) are highly developed, comparing favorably to the performance of countries in the region as well as globally. They assert that while &#8220;significant reforms still lie ahead for the PA&#8221; they are no different than &#8220;than those facing other middle income countries.&#8221;

    The World Bank&#8217;s assessment of the sustainability of economic growth in the WB&G remains bleak. The report emphasizes that the estimate of 9.3 percent for 2010 &#8220;reflects recovery from the very low base reached during the second intifada, is still mainly confined to the non-tradable sector and is primarily donor-driven.&#8221; They note that aid is what keeps many Palestinians above the poverty line, particularly in Gaza, where unemployment is still 37.4 percent and a &#8220;staggering&#8221; 71 percent of the population benefited from some form of social assistance in 2009.

    The authors argue that sustainable growth is dependent on a &#8220;vibrant&#8221; private sector, but that is unlikely to emerge &#8220;while Israeli restrictions on access to natural resources and markets remain in place, and as long as investors are deterred by the increased cost of business associated with the closure regime.&#8221; They urge the PA, however, to continue to lay the infrastructure enabling &#8220;private sector growth when the Palestinian state is established&#8221;, pointing to the need to adopt &#8220;a coherent trade strategy&#8221; and institute &#8220;an appropriate border management and customs system.&#8221;

    "Rebuilding the Palestinian economy's productive capacity is a priority,&#8221; said Mariam J. Sherman, World Bank Country Director for the West Bank and Gaza. &#8220;While we commend the solid performance of Palestinian institutions, we are concerned about the prospect for continued economic growth. Action is required by all parties -- Israel, the PA and the donor community -- but the closure regime remains the most substantial obstacle to Palestinian economic viability.&#8221;

    http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/MENAEXT/WESTBANKGAZAEXTN/0,,contentMDK:22878372~pagePK:1497618~piPK:217854~theSitePK:294365,00.html
    ---------------------------------

    An International Monetary Fund report released on Tuesday says the Palestinian Authority's financial institutions are ready for statehood now that it has carried out a series of economic reforms.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/imf-report-palestinian-financial-institutions-ready-for-statehood-1.354304
    ---------------------------------------------------

     Google it billy

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #530 - November 08, 2011, 01:47 PM

    O.K. third of them were Christians.. and 2/3 are Muslims. So how many million of of Muslims that 2/3 rd transforms posthuman??

    No need to have debate about Christians of Palestine posthuman., They are expandable..   ., That has been done By Islam through out the middles East starting from the day Alleged Prophet of Islam started preaching hotch-potch monotheism from Jewish and Christian religious books..  

    Talk to me about Muslims of Palestine posthuman..  Remove Islam , remove mosques and convert all Palestinian Muslims in to Christianity I will solve the issue of Palestine in one year if not in one month posthuman...


    At first:

    The Muslim conquest of the city solidified Saracen control over Palestine, control which would not again be threatened until the Crusades in the late 11th through the 13th centuries. Thus, it came to be regarded as a holy site by Islam, as well as by Christianity and Judaism. After the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem, Jews were allowed to live and practice their religion freely in Jerusalem by Caliph Umar – after nearly 500 years of expulsion from the Holy Land by the Romans.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%28637%29

    500 years or so later, Jews still there.

    The Jews almost single-handedly defended Haifa against the crusaders, holding out in the besieged town for a whole month (June–July 1099) in fierce battles. At this time, a full thousand years after the fall of the Jewish state, there were Jewish communities all over the country. Fifty of them are known and include Jerusalem, Tiberias, Ramleh, Ashkelon, Caesarea, and Gaza.[2][3]
    [edit] Massacre of Jerusalem

    Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders.[4] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.[5] According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."[6] One modern day source even claims the Crusaders "[circled] the screaming, flame-tortured humanity singing 'Christ We Adore Thee!' with their Crusader crosses held high."[7] On the contrary, a late 11th century Jewish communication does not corroborate the report that Jews were actually inside of the Synagogue when it was set on fire.[8] This letter was discovered among the Cairo Geniza collection in 1975 by historian Shelomo Dov Goitein.[9] Historians believe that it was written just two weeks after the siege, making it "the earliest account on the conquest in any language."[9] However, all sources agree that a synagogue was indeed burned during the siege.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_the_Crusades#Defending_in_the_Holy_Land

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Your history should have Arabs maintaining the ban on Jews, or shortly thereafter, expelling them from Jerusalem. We should see Jews fighting WITH Crusaders, and not with Muslims.

    But as history shows the opposite, consider yourself PWNED.

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #531 - November 08, 2011, 06:27 PM

    It just shows how naive some of them can be, or maybe that's the story he is hoping to convince innocent people who do not know the history.. the other funny thing he mentioned is that he couldn't understand why a Palestinian who lives in the UK or anywhere in Europe/US with a UK passport (or other passport) would consider themselves Palestinian? .... I am errrr because they are !!!  Then I asked him how long he's been in the UK, he said around 15 years, and he did get the British passport, then I told him so how is it that he can still consider himself Israeli (and his children who were born here to be Israeli) when he doesn't think UK Palestinians should consider themselves Palestinians??

    This guy is not thick, he is very intelligent and has a job that requires high qualifications and experience, so have no idea why he is so naive like that when he talks about Palestinians?



    Nice one Grin, i never knew you come from Palestine Smiley



    Bigots convince themselves of all kinds of bullshit to justify their bigotry.

    Yap .. you and I do that quite often...


    Lmao honestly Yeezeevee deserved JOTM award, for now he is my unofficial current CEMB JOTM

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #532 - November 09, 2011, 12:09 PM

    Nice one Grin, i never knew you come from Palestine Smiley


    Lmao honestly Yeezeevee deserved JOTM award, for now he is my unofficial current CEMB JOTM


     Huh! what the hell is that JOTM?? you mean  "Jesus of the month... "  peace .. I like that award Naija   Cheesy Cheesy
    This is For Q-Man ... The American..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x0RzBSGNRQ


    snd Now I like posthuman  to watch these tubes..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSx9aw99NLc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGYAfh9A1k

    That Jew hates Islam..  Is he Jew., I don't think he is drinking Juice..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhRUbBowO4

    so where do we go from there??  

    And Naija Infidel . How much you and  that fucking Yeezevee gets paid to support Israel??

    FUCKING CULT.. Jewish CULT.. fucking American juice drinking Obama.. Maccian... maniacs fucking shitt... finmad finmad

    http://www.youtube.com/user/squellock  support that Channel..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #533 - November 13, 2011, 05:02 AM

    Gilad Atzmon: Zionism and Jewish Identity   

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX7P1Foqp3Y


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEDjgdjmCfA


    And a book


    I like that music more that the book and politics of the self hating Juice... Hmm He lives in London..  And I want an Ex-Juice Associations in London

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #534 - November 14, 2011, 05:01 PM


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0L3p-fXh7w&feature=player_embedded#!

    Quote :With Allah's Teachings "We Harvest the Skulls of...Jews.Unquote

    Nice.

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #535 - November 14, 2011, 07:12 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0L3p-fXh7w&feature=player_embedded#!

    Quote :With Allah's Teachings "We Harvest the Skulls of...Jews.Unquote

    Nice.

     Well Allah is Making Drones..  In 10 years or so sure they will put them on space station along with cameras..   They are perfect for such brainless fools..

    Israeli air raids kills Palestinian
    That s today's news..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #536 - November 14, 2011, 10:59 PM

    I used to blindly support Palestine and demonize Israel.

    Now, not being a Muslim, I do realize that Palestinians aren't that innocent after all.

    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #537 - November 14, 2011, 11:18 PM

    Welcome to the 'They're all cunts' camp, Minimow.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #538 - November 15, 2011, 06:50 PM

    I used to blindly support Palestine and demonize Israel.

    Now, not being a Muslim, I do realize that Palestinians aren't that innocent after all.


    Quote
    A bomb was detonated in a bar on the Durban beach-front in 1986, killing three civilians and injuring 69. Robert McBride received the death penalty for this bombing which became known as the "Magoo's Bar bombing". Although the subsequent Truth and Reconciliation Committee called it a "gross violation of human rights", McBride received amnesty and became a police officer.

    In 1987, an explosion outside a Johannesburg court killed three people and injured 10; a court in Newcastle had been attacked in a similar way the previous year, injuring 24. In 1987, a bomb exploded at a military command centre in Johannesburg, killing one person and injuring 68 military personnel.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe#Death_toll

    This was during Apartheid South Africa, against white people.

    Being right about something does not require innocence, being wrong about something does not make one guilty.




    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #539 - November 15, 2011, 09:43 PM

    PRO PALESTINE of course.

    Not Pro Islamic Palestine but PRO FREE PALESTINE.

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