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 Topic: Veil, Islam & Taliban

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  • Veil, Islam & Taliban
     OP - July 10, 2011, 11:53 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8CoshwYmE&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CX4K3TeAao&feature=related


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm2sxZ586I&feature=related


    WOMEN ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMIES! idiot2 finmad

    You have a right to be sick I guess!


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #1 - July 11, 2011, 02:32 PM
    I can only give my own opinion here and that is let them wear the stupid things if they want to but don't be surprised if you're shunned, ignored and treated as if you don't exist, if you do so.

    Personally I'd ignore her.  I really couldn't care how many of them walk around, to me they might as well just be invisible ghosts and I wouldn't interact in any way with them whatsoever.

    Why do we need yet another law, I say just let everyone be free to wear or not wear whatever they like but be prepared to suffer any consequences if you do so.
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #2 - July 11, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Well as long that dr. lady doesn't act the way this woman in Afghanistan Parliament is acting., It is O.K ., People like Dr. Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy could deal with not one burkha woman but 100s

    Now watch the  Burkha women .. at 2 minutes in this clip..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uGtXyL_22fc
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #3 - July 11, 2011, 06:03 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on July 11, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Well as long that dr. lady doesn't act the way this woman in Afghanistan Parliament is acting., It is O.K ., People like Dr. Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy could deal with not one burkha woman but 100s

    Now watch the  Burkha women .. at 2 minutes in this clip..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uGtXyL_22fc


    Lol. Lol to the max  cool2
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #4 - July 11, 2011, 06:16 PM
    Aren't those hijabs rather than burkhas yeezevee?    Huh?
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #5 - July 11, 2011, 06:28 PM
    Quote from: Maya on July 11, 2011, 06:16 PM
    Aren't those hijabs rather than burkhas yeezevee?    Huh?

    I know that is hijab dear Maya., These Islamic women ideologues they slip in and out of hija/Burkha/Niqab  as if they are  evening dresses for a tea party...  They are fully confused and Their mouths also equality acidic when it come to protecting women's ISLAMIC FREEDOM..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #6 - July 11, 2011, 06:38 PM
    Ah I see.... ok yeezevee, just that my first comment above was directed at women wearing burkhas, hijabs I don't have such a problem with.  I even have one of those myself,  gifted to me by my son-in-law's mother , not that I've ever worn it as a hijab though as beautiful as it is with it's lurex threads and beads embroidered onto it. I would certainly wear it as a gorgeous scarf though.  yes

    btw... what was the shoe throwing all about in the video? 
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #7 - July 11, 2011, 06:52 PM
    Quote from: Maya on July 11, 2011, 06:38 PM

    btw... what was the shoe throwing all about in the video?  

    well those Two female members are from that e Afghanistan Parliament., they  got into a physical fight  during  a discussion of rocket attacks from Pakistan. The one who thre thw shoe and beating the other lady parliamentarian is General Nazifa Zaki, a former army general, threw her shoe at fellow MP Hamida Ahmadzai,  
    Quote
    Zaki punches Ahmadzai, and the two begin to tussle.

    Arian Yoon, another female member of parliament, said Zaki punched Ahmadzai in the face.

    Other members of parliament quickly broke the fight up.

    What began as a discussion took a turn for the worse when one of the coalitions in parliament, including members who are accused of fraud, wanted to summon President Hamid Karzai about the rocket and artillery attacks from Pakistan.

    Ahmadzai called for two of the country’s vice presidents to be summoned.

    That’s when Zaki attacked, Yoon told CNN.


    It is fight between Pakistan and Afghanistan in Afghan Parliament.. lol..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #8 - July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Maya, well respected women who cover themselves will not be SHUNNED or IGNORED like you said. I respect women who cover themselves because they have discipline and guide themselves according to God.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #9 - July 13, 2011, 11:05 PM
    Quote from: Maria on July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Maya, well respected women who cover themselves will not be SHUNNED or IGNORED like you said. I respect women who cover themselves because they have discipline and guide themselves according to God.


    I respect these people..

















    Anyone who can follow religious traditions and beliefs and make a burqa wearer look like a sane-woman deserves a pat on the back..
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #10 - July 13, 2011, 11:11 PM
    Quote from: Maria on July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Maya, well respected women who cover themselves will not be SHUNNED or IGNORED like you said. I respect women who cover themselves because they have discipline and guide themselves according to God.


    Prove that God exists.

    This should make your job - of convincing us that such a being's 'guidance' is worth following - much, much easier.
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #11 - July 13, 2011, 11:14 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on July 11, 2011, 06:28 PM
    I know that is hijab dear Maya., These Islamic women ideologues they slip in and out of hija/Burkha/Niqab  as if they are  evening dresses for a tea party...  They are fully confused and Their mouths also equality acidic when it come to protecting women's ISLAMIC FREEDOM..


    Lmao

    Quote from: Maria on July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Maya, well respected women who cover themselves will not be SHUNNED or IGNORED like you said. I respect women who cover themselves because they have discipline and guide themselves according to God.


    If you need a particular dress for that then you are like a lame person who needs a crutch or a blind man who needs a cane!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #12 - July 14, 2011, 12:29 AM
    Quote from: Maria on July 13, 2011, 10:52 PM
    Maya, well respected women who cover themselves will not be SHUNNED or IGNORED like you said. I respect women who cover themselves because they have discipline and guide themselves according to God.


    Fine if you respect them, that's your choice.  I don't respect anyone hiding behind a mask for no good reason. 

    Why would anybody need to completely cover their face except in certain circumstances such as, for example, a motorcyclist wearing a crash helmet to avoid injury to his head, an arc-welder wearing a mask to protect his eyes, a person with sun-sensitive skin that would blister if exposed to sunlight, etc.?

    What, who and why is this god thing you mention got anything to do with it?   wacko
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #13 - July 14, 2011, 11:20 PM
    Noone can prove God exists. And noone should have to because that's where FAITH comes in. If you have faith in something you don't have to SEE, FEEL, or TOUCH it. All you need to do is believe.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #14 - July 14, 2011, 11:22 PM
    No, you don't need a particular dress for that. It's all in our minds. We have created all these dumb stereotypes and ideologies that only exist in society, nowhere else.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #15 - July 14, 2011, 11:24 PM
    Believe in what and for what reason?  wacko
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #16 - July 14, 2011, 11:38 PM
    I think any woman who covers herself from head to toe, and face, is a rare beauty. I mean, how often do you see that anymore, especially in the West? Never! Just about every female here walks around half naked if they aren't naked already beneath their skimpy clothes. It's a shame! They think they are independent and "free" when in reality they are only SLAVES to society and men. I have great regards for a woman who is different from the breed.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #17 - July 14, 2011, 11:39 PM
    The question was " can you prove the existence of God " and I said all you need is to believe.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #18 - July 14, 2011, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Maria on July 14, 2011, 11:22 PM
    No, you don't need a particular dress for that. It's all in our minds. We have created all these dumb stereotypes and ideologies that only exist in society, nowhere else.

                                                                             down

    Quote from: Maria on July 14, 2011, 11:38 PM
    I think any woman who covers herself from head to toe, and face, is a rare beauty. I mean, how often do you see that anymore, especially in the West? Never! Just about every female here walks around half naked if they aren't naked already beneath their skimpy clothes. It's a shame! They think they are independent and "free" when in reality they are only SLAVES to society and men. I have great regards for a woman who is different from the breed.


    So does a woman who wears a burkha,hijab or whatever become 'different from the breed'?
    IMO you are merely exchanging one uniform for another.


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #19 - July 14, 2011, 11:58 PM
    I agree with you but then again, uniforms DEFINE who we are and how we represent ourselves to the world. One uniform can leave a lasting impression while another won't.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #20 - July 15, 2011, 12:03 AM
    Quote from: Maria on July 14, 2011, 11:38 PM
    I think any woman who covers herself from head to toe, and face, is a rare beauty. I mean, how often do you see that anymore, especially in the West? Never! Just about every female here walks around half naked if they aren't naked already beneath their skimpy clothes. It's a shame! They think they are independent and "free" when in reality they are only SLAVES to society and men. I have great regards for a woman who is different from the breed.


    But you don't need to cover yourself completely to dress modestly.  Why does the face need to be covered?
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #21 - July 15, 2011, 12:16 AM
    It doesn't need to be covered but there are women who cover their faces because they feel insecure and shy in public. There's nothing wrong with them - it's just their culture and the way their were brought up. It's not THEIR fault. But how often do you see a man flirting or eyeing a woman who is wearing a burka??? You don't and that is exactly my point. There is a purpose to the burka/hijab thing.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #22 - July 15, 2011, 12:20 AM
    *Pretty lady burka song*
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #23 - July 15, 2011, 12:48 AM
    So they're wearing a burka to ward off men because they feel shy and insecure?
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #24 - July 15, 2011, 01:00 AM
    I think so and also because they have to. Some countries or some parts in certain countries expect women to be covered from head to toe and faces!

    No man is going near a Burka Lady! The Burka serves a purpose and it works!
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #25 - July 15, 2011, 01:26 AM
    So a burka isn't worn by choice at all, they're made to wear it?  Hmmm.     015

    Ahhh I get it now, those women are just pretending it's a choice when really it's all about:    040   

    Hmmm..... I might revise how I feel about a ban of the damn thing in that case.  Thinking hard
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #26 - July 15, 2011, 01:38 AM
    Quote from: Maria on July 15, 2011, 01:00 AM


    No man is going near a Burka Lady! The Burka serves a purpose and it works!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksD7iKYyuKg

    works like a charm...
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #27 - July 15, 2011, 02:36 AM
    LOL There's always an exception!
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #28 - July 15, 2011, 02:39 AM
    I think the Burka works both ways. You can either choose to wear it or be

    pressured to wear it! If you choose to wear it then that says alot about

    your character. It's a hard choice to make but when you live in these

    undercivilized countries I think it's safer to just put it on rather than

    put up with those stares from creeps.
  • Re: Veil, Islam & Taliban
     Reply #29 - July 15, 2011, 02:52 AM
    Quote from: Maria on July 15, 2011, 02:36 AM
    LOL There's always an exception!


    But thats just it though, theres alllwwaayyssss an exception.

    Argument: Muslim proposes that because women in the Islamic world cover themselves and wear more, they don' get raped.
    Reality: Many of them do
    Response: Thats just a rare exception

    Argument: Muslim Proposes that a removal of removing sexual contact has made muslims less focused on sex
    Reality: Pakistan becomes #1 in internet searches for beastiality, child sex and rape and countries like Iran have large levels of transexuals and Saudi Arabia have large levels of gay students.
    Response: Thats just an irregularity.

    Argument: Muslim proposes that If the whole world was Islamic, there would be peace
    Reality: Some of the most violent countries in the world are Islamic, GPI Index finds 90% of Islamic countries to be in the bottom 1/3 for peace
    Response: Thats because of something else.

    You see, there is always an 'exception' for everything. You can say its 'safer' and I would agree with you, but its even safer to live somewhere else or never leave the house or carry a missile.
    As with the pictures I posted earlier, if people want to make themselves look like a garbage bag, or a chicken, or a vampire then they are free to do so, but legitimate reasons for wearing it outside of 'my religion says so' is somewhat lagging
    and if you 'have' to wear it, either through law or safety, then I think it says alot more about the country and its people and the way it brings its people up, more than anything else.
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