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  • Ideals
     OP - August 20, 2011, 07:57 AM

    What are your ideals?

    a. The ideals that you have when you are a child?

    b. The ones that you still live up to?

    c. The moral fibre that still remains in you when you apostate and the principles you acquired as an Athiest/Agnostic/Pantheism?

    Begin........


    Edit: i reedit it to make it more clear.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #1 - August 20, 2011, 02:17 PM

    .

    Think i misunderstood you lol.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #2 - August 20, 2011, 02:33 PM

    What are your ideals?

    The ideals that you have when you are a child?

    The ones that turn into reality for you?

    The moral fibre that still remains in you?

    The principles that you acquire from your former religion?

    Begin........



    As a kid I valued humility, bravery, strong friendship, honesty, kindness.... (That's why I loved and still love Narnia books, there's lost of those points in them.)

    I still stay honest and try to always be kind in my approach, but you soon realise that the world doesn't care and that a lot of people are not worth it, there are manipulative people in the world, dishonest and sly. It's a waste of your energy to try and show kindness to those who will just damage you if they can. You have to develop a hard shell around your heart. I've no time for bullshitting people either.

    I always give people a chance, I never judge too quickly, but sometimes you have to be straight to some people for them to get you.

    I'm not always brave, lol Tongue some of you know that, but I know I can be strong when I need to. I have a fighting spirit in me even though I may come across as a quiet/shy person.



    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #3 - August 20, 2011, 02:40 PM

    From religion I learnt erm....not much really lol Tongue other than having to memorize some book and do some motions of worship.

    I suppose religion did help me be more reflective and analyse myself, my behaviors.

    Or maybe I was always a reflective person....who knows.

    I loved Narnia though, loved the adventure....to explore, to learn, to share...Tongue /goes off on a tangent.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #4 - August 20, 2011, 03:03 PM

    Religion helped me with patience and discipline more than anything.

    As far as ideals go, I'm still trying to reconstruct those.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #5 - August 20, 2011, 03:19 PM

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    I still stay honest and try to always be kind in my approach, but you soon realise that the world doesn't care and that a lot of people are not worth it, there are manipulative people in the world, dishonest and sly. It's a waste of your energy to try and show kindness to those who will just damage you if they can. You have to develop a hard shell around your heart. I've no time for bullshitting people either.


    True, its quite difficult when you are being honest and kind to the ones that can be difficult to deal with, i can say im like that. I hardly get rude to the person unless he started it,yet i give benefit of a doubt to the person just to try to understand what type am dealing with is before i can decide how i will approach him.

    I value honesty very much,infact its hard for me to lie most of the times because if i do, it can bite me in up in my ass  one day and i will suffer for it. That is enough for me not to lie in most cases.

    I will post mine soon.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #6 - August 20, 2011, 03:34 PM

    What are your ideals?

    The ideals that you have when you are a child?

    The ones that turn into reality for you?

    The moral fibre that still remains in you?

    The principles that you acquire from your former religion?

    Begin........




    Is Pragmatism an Ideal?

    Then that's my Ideal :-)




    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: Ideals
     Reply #7 - August 20, 2011, 03:46 PM

    Well in regards to the ideals that religion taught me, the first and foremost would be patience. I've never been a patient person and whenever I would do D'ua and ask for whatever I would want some sort of sign that would show me that my D'ua is accepted or whatever. I always wished Allah was a bit more responsive cause I hated not knowing whether he was happy with me or angry at me and whether he had received my D'ua or not, like a delivery report when you send a text would be so helpful.

    Anyhow, when I was young I was always taught to earn respect, that respect and education were two things that no one could take away from you and only you could ear them or lose them. So personally that would always be my quest to achieve respect amongst people and to be educated. These are the ideals I still have embedded in me, and I should probably attend to these again like I used to.

    Now that I sit back and reflect, it seems that I always thought that my ideals were inter linked to Islam in one way or another, and that now I was an apostate, it somehow meant I was an empty shell with no ideals or morals. I can happily see that, that is not as true as I had made it out to be.

    [/end of personal revelation] Roll Eyes

    Qualities that I have always admired and have aspired to achieve would include the likes of; guilt seems I have a bit too much of that at times when it isn't even needed, humility, modesty seems Islam still influencing my mind in certain ways, honesty, earnestness, kindness, generosity and humbleness.

    Any human that I witness with these qualities one or more seems to really impress me and I would consider them my role model, unfortunately there aren't many people out there who are in touch with their inner self, and hence are lost in their materialistic lives. If I was to thank Islam for anything it would be the fact that it humbled me to an enough extend where I would always find myself brought back to the ground no matter how high I'd hold my head. Unfortunately the Islam I followed and was brought up with was a scam, it wasn't the real true literal Islam but one that culture had molded over time.
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