Ah I see. You don't actually know what you're meant to be arguing. This is a masturbation session for you, sitting atop your perch, smiling smugly at the thought that hey, not only are you a cut above the infantile religionists, but also the atheists they grow into. And yet, here you are posting other people's words, skirting round questions and doing nought else but excoriating like you're fucking Socrates or something. With the occasional dollop of meretricious modesty, of course.
Heard it all before, brother. Said it all before, even. Let me know when you have something to say.
damn, that turned me on - me so horny
You where born with a blank slate
what determines the way you think?
the ideals you hold? the beliefs you have?
you did not acquire them in the womb nor did they come from thin air
you where brought into a society within a region with cultures. you where introduced to images, sounds ways of moving or talking, language, rules governing concepts
and this determines your life long cognizance.
all those things i mentioned are infected if not progenated or directly conceived from riligoen (by riligoen i mean any form of deity worship so even paganism). Then capitalism came along like a trojan horse and took over, consuming riligoen into the ovaries of its system.
so what i am saying is every-single thing is infected by riligoen-capitalism. I just want the smug new atheists to acknowledge this , this means science as well. So everything is a lie - how can you be a atheist without first realizing nihilism, once you realize nihilism you can do something about it, that is IF you have found a way to free yourself entirely from capitilism-riligoen. Science can only work when there is a filter of space&time, only humans have the conception of space&time it does not belong to the objective world - there is no Objective 'time'. So what you find in science is there to serve us it does not belong in nature. Its like the cloud that look like a dog, does it look like a dog? its not
really in the shape of a dog but to us humans it looks like a dog and we can even prove that it looks like a dog (prove is another word for monkeys acting retarded together), that does not mean that the cloud
itself is in the shape of a dog, its just a human conception, we can never know things as they are, take away space&time (which is only in OUR minds) and science shits itself and is no more, your no more, and there is no individuating things, there are no things, just undisciplined matter but you would not even know this as you would also just be matter withought form withought 'i' so matter also wont 'exist'.
im approaching the problem from a perspective that places the human as the actor at center stage
even if you do
believe science to be objective you have to ask yourself does science serve a purpose within-itself,
would there be a science withought us, are we progressing for the sake of the word "progression" and what does it mean to progress when we have no end goal or purpose ? dawkins and his kind have forgotten we are HUMAN ALL TO HUMAN
there is NO OBJECTIVE TRUTH and this is not post-modernism (post modernism is a condition of capitalism) this is existentialism, this is us, this is the human and nothing outside the human can be known and everything within the human is a confusion but the human as the human is the only thing that has any worth within existence.
that's all i am saying
NO OBJECTIVE TRUTH
THE END [/b]
btw don't take my brash manner of speaking as an offense, i mean nothing by it - all love
Topic: The poverty of the new atheism by Scott Stephens