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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #30 - September 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 06:11 PM
    Response: Your weak rebuttals support to the contrary.


    The only thing weak here is my boner for you. It's soft, cos I don't find you attractive. Maybe wear some make-up next time.
    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #31 - September 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 06:04 PM
    Response: As exlained in post 5 in rely to post 4, the answer is in the result of the test.

     nothing in that is an objective test of the quran is.  There is a series of buzz words like error free, inspirational and truth teller.  Those words have no real meaning.  The closest to a test is ' something that inspires that goes against the masses' which in turn is a completely vague Nostrodamus- like test.  Nothing beats the " quranic test" because its not really an objective test at all. It's just an empty attempt as hollow boasting combined with hand waiving away anything contrary based on arbitrary and subjective criteria. There is no such thing as a perfect book because perfection is a subjective term at most in regards to literature.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #32 - September 12, 2011, 06:47 PM
    Fatihah, are you retarded?

    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 05:47 PM
    Response: Another dodge of the challenge. Instead we see the absurd claim that there are arrors in the Qur'an, yet fail to provide one. Debunked.


    "Debunked" what? My claim that Qur'an has errors? I didn't substantiate it (and explained why), but you didn't do jack shit to "debunk" it.

    Quote
    Then the argument goes to saying that the challenge has been answered, which is false evidence, for it is equivalent to saying that God exist because "I said so".


    One example: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Miracle/hindu.htm

    Quote
    Simply saying that the challenge has been answered is not actual proof that it is, thus the fact that the challenge confirms that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah still stands.


    The challenge doesn't confirm anything, for reasons I have listed (and you completely ignored) in my last post.

    Have you heard the good news? There is no God!
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #33 - September 12, 2011, 07:01 PM
    Quote from: strangestdude on September 12, 2011, 06:45 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPP-g1FJiT0

    I thought I'd post some nonsensical shit too.

    Good trolling.


    Response: Every post of yours is equivalent to nonsesne. So you don't have to think about posting some nonsesne. Just being yourself takes care of that.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #34 - September 12, 2011, 07:02 PM
    Quote from: Jesus Christ on September 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    The only thing weak here is my boner for you. It's soft, cos I don't find you attractive. Maybe wear some make-up next time.


    Response: Probably the most truthful satement you've made thus far.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #35 - September 12, 2011, 07:06 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on September 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    nothing in that is an objective test of the quran is.  There is a series of buzz words like error free, inspirational and truth teller.  Those words have no real meaning.  The closest to a test is ' something that inspires that goes against the masses' which in turn is a completely vague Nostrodamus- like test.  Nothing beats the " quranic test" because its not really an objective test at all. It's just an empty attempt as hollow boasting combined with hand waiving away anything contrary based on arbitrary and subjective criteria. There is no such thing as a perfect book because perfection is a subjective term at most in regards to literature.


    Response: Another dodge of the challenge. Instead, we see a failed excuse for trying to justify your denial of the fact that the challenge confirms that the qur'an is the true word of Allah, which utterly fails, because it does not disprove the challenge. Thus the challenge that proves that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #36 - September 12, 2011, 07:07 PM
    What challenge?
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #37 - September 12, 2011, 07:13 PM
    Quote from: Stuff on September 12, 2011, 06:47 PM
    Fatihah, are you retarded?

    "Debunked" what? My claim that Qur'an has errors? I didn't substantiate it (and explained why), but you didn't do jack shit to "debunk" it.

    One example: http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Miracle/hindu.htm

    The challenge doesn't confirm anything, for reasons I have listed (and you completely ignored) in my last post.




    Response: Another failed rebuttal. First you make the claim that the Qur'an has erroers but fail to demonstrate one, then you provide an example of an error in a link. I can't debate or respond to a link. Furthermore, the debate is taking place here, yet you provide a link to which one must go somewhere else to view your alleged evidence. This clearly demonstrates that you yourself are to afraid to defend your own claims, which is why you hide it behind a link, instead of presenting it here and explaining it yourself. Thus your own actions and failure to prove anything supports the fact that the challenge that proves that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #38 - September 12, 2011, 07:15 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on September 12, 2011, 07:07 PM
    What challenge?


    Response: The same challenge presented in post 5 in response to post 4.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #39 - September 12, 2011, 07:17 PM
    See my last post.  It isn't a challenge at all.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #40 - September 12, 2011, 07:17 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 07:02 PM
    Response: Probably the most truthful satement you've made thus far.


     Kiss
    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #41 - September 12, 2011, 07:18 PM
    Response: See my response. It is a valid challenge, supported by the fact that you've failed to answer it.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #42 - September 12, 2011, 07:20 PM
    Here we go again round the mulberry bush....
    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #43 - September 12, 2011, 07:27 PM
    Quote from: Jesus Christ on September 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    The only thing weak here is my boner for you. It's soft, cos I don't find you attractive. Maybe wear some make-up next time.


    Lmao dance


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #44 - September 12, 2011, 07:29 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 07:18 PM
    Response: See my response. It is a valid challenge, supported by the fact that you've failed to answer it.

     circular logic.  People have failed to " challenge" it because it isn't an objective challenge at all.  It's a subjective evaluation.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #45 - September 12, 2011, 07:29 PM
    Quote from: Gladfly on September 12, 2011, 07:20 PM
    Here we go again round the mulberry bush....


    The easiest way of becoming a 'CHAKRAM'


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #46 - September 12, 2011, 07:36 PM
    Quote
    It is impossible for a person/s to use speech or literature that goes against wants of the masses, which is invented by any person or people, to inspire enough followers amongst them to conquer a nation.

    This is the challenge?

    Das Kapital is an answer then. The inspiration lead the followers to conquer multiple countries.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #47 - September 12, 2011, 07:50 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on September 12, 2011, 07:29 PM
    circular logic.  People have failed to " challenge" it because it isn't an objective challenge at all.  It's a subjective evaluation.


    Response: There's the statement. Where's the proof?
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #48 - September 12, 2011, 07:53 PM
    Quote from: deusvult on September 12, 2011, 07:36 PM
    This is the challenge?

    Das Kapital is an answer then. The inspiration lead the followers to conquer multiple countries.


    Response: The challenge is for you to answer the challenge yourself, for which your dodging clealry demonstates your denial that the challenge is valid in proving that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. Secondly, Das Kapital does not answer the challenge, for the challenge itself confirms that doing so is impossible. Thus the challenge that confirms that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.
    Qul Haatoo Burhaanakum in kuntum saadiqeen
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #49 - September 12, 2011, 07:55 PM
    banghead banghead banghead


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #50 - September 12, 2011, 07:57 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 07:53 PM
    Response: The challenge is for you to answer the challenge yourself, for which your dodging clealry demonstates your denial that the challenge is valid in proving that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. Secondly, Das Kapital does not answer the challenge, for the challenge itself confirms that doing so is impossible. Thus the challenge that confirms that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.

    Quote from: hypocrucifier on September 12, 2011, 07:55 PM
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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #51 - September 12, 2011, 07:59 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 07:53 PM
    Response: The challenge is for you to answer the challenge yourself, for which your dodging clealry demonstates your denial that the challenge is valid in proving that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah. Secondly, Das Kapital does not answer the challenge, for the challenge itself confirms that doing so is impossible. Thus the challenge that confirms that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.

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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #52 - September 12, 2011, 08:00 PM
    Circular logic  wacko
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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #53 - September 12, 2011, 08:04 PM
    Quote from: zooby on September 12, 2011, 07:59 PM
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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #54 - September 12, 2011, 08:05 PM
    Response: sheikh
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #55 - September 12, 2011, 08:12 PM
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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #56 - September 12, 2011, 08:13 PM
    Quote from: Fatihah on September 12, 2011, 07:53 PM
    Das Kapital does not answer the challenge, for the challenge itself confirms that doing so is impossible. Thus the challenge that confirms that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is still valid.

     where is your proof that it is impossible? Now you are avoiding the refutation to the obvious answer to the challenge. By your avoidance you are only showing more so that the Quran is a human creation.  In fact you just proved it.  By avoiding a refutation you have proven that there is no refutation to the refutation of the quran being divinly made, proving that it is man-made.  You have sealed it as fact.  Irrefutable.  In fact any more refutation you try to bring against the refutation will only prove that the Quran was man made.

    Refuted.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #57 - September 12, 2011, 08:17 PM
    I really wished that Fatiha was an actual troll who is just playing around with us, but sadly it seems that the guy is for real.

    I was researching about the Islamic mythos that Adam and Eve were a 90-foot giants, and came across this:

    http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/27547265/Was_Adam_90_feet_tall_Really?pg=1

    Yep, that's him alright.
  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #58 - September 12, 2011, 08:21 PM
    Quote from: truth_seeker on September 12, 2011, 08:17 PM
    I really wished that Fatiha was an actual troll who is just playing around with us, but sadly it seems that the guy is for real.

    I was researching about the Islamic mythos that Adam and Eve were a 90-foot giants, and came across this:

    http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/27547265/Was_Adam_90_feet_tall_Really?pg=1

    Yep, that's him alright.



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    Response: Adam was 90 feet tall and humankind has decreased in size since the time of Adam. None of which goes against physics. Giants are even spoken of as existing in your very own bible and there are many archaeological discoveries to confirm the existence of giants.




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  • Re: how should you respond to the particularly dumb proofs of the quran's miracle
     Reply #59 - September 12, 2011, 08:21 PM

    From that Fatiha link ^^^

    Quote
    Response: Adam was 90 feet tall and humankind has decreased in size since the time of Adam. None of which goes against physics. Giants are even spoken of as existing in your very own bible and there are many archaeological discoveries to confirm the existence of giants.


     Grin

    edit: haha JC saw it and cracked up and posted it too!




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