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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #180 - November 19, 2011, 09:53 PM
    You know what's interesting?

    All forms of energy are just different types of kinetic energy? Sound is vibration of atoms, heat is faster movement of atoms etc.

    Before Jesus was, I AM.
  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #181 - November 19, 2011, 10:04 PM
    Potential energy is not a form of kinetic energy. Tongue
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #182 - November 19, 2011, 10:11 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 19, 2011, 09:47 PM
    You seem to be commenting on somebody else's posts.

    My view is that pure reason is a useful adjunct to approaching truth, as long as you cross check it with something outside your own ruminations. The ancient Greek philosophers thought this latter step was unnecessary and beneath them.

    The scientific approach can be elucidated by use of reason, but it does rely heavily on getting empirical evidence directly from the world around us. Now obviously we cannot verify that this evidence is absolutely true in a rigorous sense. It is, however, the best we can realistically get. Valuing your own ruminations higher than this evidence is, IMHO, the height of idiocy.

    That was my point.


    My point is that there is no way to cross check logic without using logic. It's self-deception to think otherwise.
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #183 - November 19, 2011, 10:14 PM
    Oh sure, but that wasn't what I was getting at. I was referring to the refusal to consider evidence outside of your own head.

    ETA: Incidentally, and somewhat tangentially, in certain circumstances logic can be cross checked by reference to other things. An example would be something that is logically consistent but morally repugnant.
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #184 - November 19, 2011, 10:21 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 19, 2011, 10:04 PM
    Potential energy is not a form of kinetic energy. Tongue


     Over react
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #185 - November 19, 2011, 10:23 PM
    Wait, potential to move. So there. da finga

     
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #186 - November 19, 2011, 10:23 PM
    Aint moving. So there yerself so there. bunny
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #187 - November 19, 2011, 10:36 PM
    At the quantum level it is moving like mental. Run for the hills
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #188 - November 19, 2011, 10:40 PM
    Push him off the cliff, then the potential energy will become kinetic energy. Smiley
  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #189 - November 19, 2011, 10:47 PM
    Quote from: posthuman on November 19, 2011, 10:36 PM
    At the quantum level it is moving like mental. Run for the hills

    Newton FTW. Tongue
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #190 - November 19, 2011, 11:00 PM
    Quote from: Prince Spinoza on November 19, 2011, 10:40 PM
    Push him off the cliff, then the potential energy will become kinetic energy. Smiley


    What do you say osmanthus? For the sake of science... Afro
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #191 - November 19, 2011, 11:24 PM
    Yup. All in favour of pushing you off the cliff. Grin
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #192 - November 19, 2011, 11:38 PM
    Does flying off the handle break the fall?
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #193 - November 19, 2011, 11:39 PM
    Depends on the current location of the handle and the trajectory of flight. Smiley
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #194 - November 19, 2011, 11:44 PM
    Quote from: z10 on November 19, 2011, 07:21 PM
    I understand that you have been going on a crusade recently against what you feel to be nitpicking the awesome discoveries of science ...

    Incidentally, that's not quite the reason.

    What I've been doing it trying to do is to bore you lot shitless. It's called revenge. Grin
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #195 - November 20, 2011, 12:08 AM
    Actually, a course in The Philosophy of Mindless Dick Swinging might prove beneficial. grin12
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  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #196 - November 20, 2011, 10:06 AM
    Quote from: toor on November 19, 2011, 01:17 PM
    Good luck with that. Neuroscience tells us about how the brain works, which isn't quite the same thing as telling us how the mind works. Not yet, at any rate.

    The mind is overrated. There is so much more going on inside your skull than the tiny bauble of the mind.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Objective morality
     Reply #197 - November 20, 2011, 11:24 AM
    Oh sure, but that wasn't what I was getting at. I was referring to the refusal to consider evidence outside of your own head.

    That is the flaw and failure of  philosophy Afro
    Little Fly, Thy summer's play
    My thoughtless hand has brushed away.

    I too dance and drink, and sing,
    Till some blind hand shall brush my wing.

    Therefore I am a happy fly,
    If I live or if I die.
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