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  • Muhammad's urine
     OP - November 10, 2011, 07:54 AM

    Muhammad's Urine

    The following narrations (several of which are classed as sahih- authentic)[1] discuss the drinking of Muhammad's urine
    Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Tabarani and Bayhaqi who narrate from Hukaymah bint Umaymah (May Allah be pleased with her) with an authentic chain of transmission, she said, 'the Prophet (May Allah shower peace and blessings on Him) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate and was placed under His bed. One night, He searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, ‘where is the bowl?’ The members of the house replied ‘Umm Salamah’s slave girl Barrah drank from it’ who came from Habashah with her. The Prophet replied, ‘surely she has protected herself from the fire with a great wall’’'.[2]

    Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Abu Ya’la, Hakim, Dar Qutni, Tabarani and Abu Nu’aym from Umm Ayman May Allah be pleased with her, who said, ‘the Prophet got up one night and urinated in a bowl. During that night, I rose in the state of thirst so I drank whatever was in the bowl. In the morning I told Him what I had done to which He smiled and said, ‘surely you will never have pain in your stomach’’. Abu Ya’ala’s wordings are as follows, ‘you will never feel stomach pain as of today’.[2]
    Tabarani said: Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal informed us, who was informed by Yahya ibn Ma’een, who was informed by Hajjaj Bin Muhammad who narrates from Ibn Jurayj who narrates from Hukaymah bint Umaymah, who reports from her mother Umaymah who said, ‘the Prophet SAW used to have a wooden bowl in which he used to urinate and place under His bed. One night, He searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, where is the bowl? The members of the house replied ‘Umm Salamah’s slave girl Barrah drank it’ who came from Habashah with her. The Prophet replied, ‘surely she has protected herself from the fire with a great wall’.[3]

    Tabarani said: Hussain bin Is’haq al-Tustari informed us, who was informed by Uthman bin Abi Shaybah, who was informed by Shababah bin Sawwar, who was informed by Abu Malik al-Nakha’i who narrated from Aswad bin Qays, who narrated from Nubayh al-Anazi, who narrated from Umm Ayman, who said: ‘‘One night the Prophet got up and went to a side to urinate in the bowl. During the night, I rose and was thirsty so I drank whatever was in it and I did not even realize what it was. In the morning, He said, ‘Oh Umm Ayman! Throw away whatever is in the bowl’. I replied, ‘I drank what was in the bowl’. He thereafter smiled as such that His teeth appeared and said, ‘Beware! You will never have stomach pain’’.

    Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Abu Ya’la, Hakim, Dar Qutni, Tabarani, Abu Nu’aym from Umm Ayman (also known as Barakah) May Allah be pleased with her, who said, ‘the Prophet got up one night and urinated in a bowl. During that night, I rose in the state of thirst so I drank whatever was in the bowl. In the morning I told Him what I done and He smiled and said, ‘surely you will never have pain in your stomach’’. Abu Ya’ala’s wordings are as follows, ‘you will never feel stomach pain as of today’.[3]

    Tabarani said: Ahmad bin Ziyad al-Haza al-Raqaiyy informed us, who was informed by Hajjaj bin Muhammad, who narrates from Ibn Jurayj who said: Hukaymah bint Umaymah bint Ruqayqah said, narrating from her mother: ‘the Prophet SAW used to have a wooden bowl in which he used to urinate and was placed under His bed. One night, He searched for it but did not find it and asked Barakah the slave girl of Umm Habeeba who came from Habsha with her, for it saying, ‘where is the urine in the bowl?’ She replied, ‘I drank it’ to which He uttered, ‘surely you have saved yourself from the fire’’.[4]

    Imam Abu Nu’aym narrates the practice of Anas RA, with his chain, who said: ‘The Messenger of Allah used to pray salah at his house and made it long. Once, He SAW urinated in the well, which was situated inside the house. Anas said: ‘there was no well in Madinah which tasted more cool and sweet than it’. He said: ‘when the sahabah come to my house I serve them with the sweet water of that well. In the era of jahiliyyah it was known as al-Barud, ‘the cool well’’’.[5]
    ‘the Prophet SAW took some water for wudhu and saw two separate date trees. He SAW said to me: ‘Oh jabir! Go to them and tell them to get together’. They got together as if their roots were one. He then made wudhu as I brought the water to Him. I then thought in my head, only if Allah informs me to His SAW waste, so that I may consume it! I saw that the earth on which he sat was clean. So I asked, ‘Did you not make the toilet?’ to which he replied, ‘Yes, but the earth is ordered to hide away the excess of us prophets’. The date trees then separated…’’[6]

    Punishment in the Grave
    Narrated Amr ibn al-'As: AbdurRahman ibn Hasanah reported: I and Amr ibn al-'As went to the Prophet (peace be upon him). He came out with a leather shield (in his hand). He covered himself with it and urinated. Then we said: Look at him. He is urinating as a woman does. The Prophet (peace be upon him), heard this and said: Do you not know what befell a person from amongst Banu Isra'il (the children of Israel)? When urine fell on them, they would cut off the place where the urine fell; but he (that person) forbade them (to do so), and was punished in his grave.
    Abu Dawud 1:22

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Most of the punishment of the grave will be because of urine.”[7]

    Ibn Maajah No. 342, see also Saheeh al-Jaami’ No. 1202
    Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Once the Prophet, while passing through one of the grave-yards of Medina or Mecca heard the voices of two persons who were being tortured in their graves. The Prophet said, "These two persons are being tortured not for a major sin (to avoid)." The Prophet then added, "Yes! (they are being tortured for a major sin). Indeed, one of them never saved himself from being soiled with his urine while the other used to go about with calumnies (to make enmiy between friends). The Prophet then asked for a green leaf of a date-palm tree, broke it into two pieces and put one on each grave. On being asked why he had done so, he replied, "I hope that their torture might be lessened, till these get dried."
    Sahih Bukhari 1:4:215
    Ibn Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) happened to pass by two graves and said: They (their occupants) are being tormented, but they are not tormented for a grievous sin. One of them carried tales and the other did not keep himself safe from being defiled by urine. He then called for a fresh twig and split it into two parts, and planted them on each grave and then said: Perhaps, their punishment way be mitigated as long as these twigs remain fresh.
    Sahih Muslim 2:575
    [edit] Miscellaneous
    Narrated 'Abdullah : A person was mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears."
    Sahih Bukhari 2:21:245
    Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) said: “Whoever tells you that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to urinate standing up, do not believe him. He only ever used to urinate sitting down.”[8]
    Sahih al-Tirmidhi No. 11
    Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If somebody keeps a horse in Allah's Cause motivated by his faith in Allah and his belief in His Promise, then he will be rewarded on the Day of Resurrection for what the horse has eaten or drunk and for its dung and urine."

    It is proved in Sunnah that everyone who does not clean himself from urine will receive torment in his grave. The Hadith of Ibn Abbas narrated that The Prophet once passed by two graves and those two persons (in the graves) were being tortured. He said, "They are being tortured not for a great thing (to avoid). One of them never saved himself from being soiled with his urine, while the other was going about with calumnies (to make enmity between friends). He then took a green leaf of a date-palm tree split it into two pieces and fixed one on each grave. The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why have you done so?" He replied, "I hope that their punishment may be lessened till they (the leaf) become dry."
    In the above Hadith it is clearly defined that the one who does not take precaution against urine deserves the torment of the grave. Imam Ibn Khuzaimah reported in his Sahih on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Prophet said: "The maximum torment of grave is for not avoiding urine", i.e. for not having kept away from urine to touch one's body or clothes. One reason for this torment might be that not cleaning oneself from urine causes ritual impurity and in the state of impurity prayer of the person is not valid so it causes annulment of the prayers which is also another great sin. Allah knows best.
    Question

    What is the Shari ruling regarding standing while urinating? There is a hot debate here regarding this. Wile some claim that it is permissible others claim it is haram. Their argument is that there is a hadith in which Aisha says that whoever tells you that the prophet urinated while standing do not believe him. Please clarify the issue.

    Answer

    Praise be to Allaah.

    It is not haraam for a man to urinate standing up, but it is Sunnah for him to urinate sitting down, because ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “Whoever tells you that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to urinate standing up, do not believe him. He only ever used to urinate sitting down.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, al-Tahaarah, 12; he said, this is the most saheeh report on this topic. It was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 11). And because this is more concealing, and it reduces the risk of any drops of urine splashing up onto him.

    It was narrated from ‘Umar, Ibn ‘Umar and Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with them) that it is allowed to urinate standing up on the condition that there is no risk of drops of urine splashing onto one’s body or clothes, and that one does not expose one's ‘awrah, because al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated from Hudhayfah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to a garden belonging to some people, and urinated standing up. There is no contradiction between this and the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), because it is possible that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did that because he was in a place where he was unable to sit down, or he did that to show the people that it is not haraam. This does not contradict the basic principle mentioned by ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) urinated sitting down, because it is Sunnah, it is not something waajib (obligatory) which it is forbidden to go against. And Allaah knows best.
    Fatawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 5/88 .
    Is it haraam to urinate standing up?


    Moon-god allah will punish u if u forget to clean your urine up .. JUSTICE!!!

    http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Urine#Punishment_in_the_Grave
  • Re: The Prophet of Urine and Spit
     Reply #1 - November 10, 2011, 07:57 AM

    Are you mentioning this "moon god" stuff as a method of mocking Islam... or do you actually believe in the nonsense theory that Allah = moon god?

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #2 - November 10, 2011, 08:01 AM

    both  piggy
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #3 - November 10, 2011, 08:02 AM

    allah was the moon god and main deity of the pagans of mecca.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #4 - November 10, 2011, 08:07 AM

    Source? I thought Hubal was he main deity.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #5 - November 10, 2011, 08:12 AM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#Etymology

    the whole thing with islam saying "don't worship anyone else but allah" is because meccans worshipped allah with other gods. moe took paganism and gave it a judeo-christian twist.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #6 - November 10, 2011, 08:14 AM

    I already knew that. You said Allah was the main god... but for the meccans Hubal was the central deity. Secondly, I can find no real non-christian reference to the linking of "allah" to a moon god.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #7 - November 10, 2011, 08:20 AM

    why did the prophet of islam care if somebody peed standing up. and why punishment for something so petty as that.. doesn't really make sense.. from a kind and merciful god once u think about it... many of these hadith practices don't even come across as moral.. just imitating the prophet which makes islam like a cult with a huge following Huh? wacko
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #8 - November 10, 2011, 08:52 AM

    It is not uncommon for there to arbitrary rules in any organization. The point of most of them is to build habit and thus build structure.
    It is unfortunate that Muhammad thought of his companions as so depraved that they could not create their own structures of being, but one can see his reasoning.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #9 - November 10, 2011, 09:09 AM

    yes but he used fear of hellfire and punishment in grave to make his followers follow his rules..even stupid ones like peeing squatting and washing up to the ankles while performing ablution
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #10 - November 10, 2011, 09:16 AM

    So how long were you a member of FFI for?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #11 - November 10, 2011, 09:21 AM

    im not a member of ffi

    are u
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #12 - November 10, 2011, 09:25 AM

    So how long were you a member of FFI for?


    Exactly my thought.

    Reeks of FFI shyte.

    Formerly known as Iblis
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #13 - November 10, 2011, 09:49 AM

    i posted my link .. my source was wikiislam.. not faithfreedom... but what do you have against faithfreedom anyway
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #14 - November 10, 2011, 09:54 AM

    im confused whats with the hostility jesus..lol  Huh?
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #15 - November 10, 2011, 09:59 AM

    im not a member of ffi

    are u


    Where is your intro? 

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #16 - November 10, 2011, 10:17 AM

    what intro?  Huh? i'm new to this forum ..
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #17 - November 10, 2011, 12:44 PM


    Bowser, would you like to write an introduction of yourself in this section?

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?board=2.0

    Its nice to get to know new members  Smiley

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #18 - November 10, 2011, 04:15 PM

    Just to even things up, even though I dislike Muhammad…

  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #19 - November 10, 2011, 04:45 PM

    So how long were you a member of FFI for?

    Are you  FFI shyte?/

    Where is your intro? 

    Yes.. Bowser .

    what is the color of your underwear?..

    did you bathe to day?....

    Are you gay??

    without answer to all those questions we are forced to believe that  you are from that faith fuckers international   .. those fuckers really fucked the faith of many folks here..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #20 - November 10, 2011, 04:48 PM

    Well, I am glad to know that as one who must sit on toilets, I follow Sunnah.

    With regards to Mo's tales of his urine's properties, they strike me as a good way for those who care about such things to get in to watersports (sexual)..."Hey, cutey, if you drink my urine you will not be afflicted by stomach pains or burned in hell."

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    Consider Nalanda University, and never let it happen again.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #21 - November 10, 2011, 04:49 PM

    Muhammad's Urine

    .......................

    Although what you copy pasted from that wiki Islam is in some hadith but Bowser  you must realize  NO Ex-Muslim who spent even a year of his time in Islam will NOT start  the topic with a heading   "The Prophet of Pisslam"


    So people here have the right to question your Identity as Ex-Muslim...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #22 - November 10, 2011, 04:49 PM

    Yes.. Bowser .

    what is the color of your underwear?..

    did you bathe to day?....

    Are you gay??

    without answer to all those questions we are forced to believe that  you are from that faith fuckers international   .. those fuckers really fucked the faith of many folks here..


    All very important questions.   parrot


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: The Prophet of Pisslam
     Reply #23 - November 10, 2011, 04:51 PM

    Although what you copy pasted from that wiki Islam is in some hadith but Bowser  you must realize  NO Ex-Muslim who spent even a year of his time in Islam will NOT start  the topic with a heading   "The Prophet of Pisslam"


    So people here have the right to question your Identity as Ex-Muslim...


    No, that's not if for me.  I have been an angry ex muslim with venom to burn.

    It's just that the Pisslam title is an FFI word.  Coined there and I'm just wondering if that is where he came from.

    He has posted another link to an Ali Sina article, so FFI must have played some part.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #24 - November 10, 2011, 11:21 PM

    i don't know what u guys have against FFI ... but i changed the title anyway...  Huh?
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #25 - November 10, 2011, 11:24 PM

    thanx billy .. im happy that someone here doesn't dislike me already  Afro
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #26 - November 10, 2011, 11:58 PM


    So please do write an Introduction for us bowser Wink

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #27 - November 11, 2011, 12:06 AM

    yes bowser, I had also asked if you would write an intro in the shoutbox
    yesterday.  It would be greatly appreciate Smiley


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  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #28 - November 11, 2011, 12:30 AM

    Yes.. Bowser .

    what is the color of your underwear?..

    did you bathe to day?....

    Are you gay??

    without answer to all those questions we are forced to believe that  you are from that faith fuckers international   .. those fuckers really fucked the faith of many folks here..


     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Muhammad's urine
     Reply #29 - November 11, 2011, 12:49 AM

    ok .. i will
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