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 Topic: Esperanto!

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  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #90 - January 04, 2012, 03:03 AM

    Seriously, most people only learn a language if they have a use for it. There are people who'll learn languages for the hell of it, but they're not the majority. If I, hypothetically, decide to spend six months in the Arctic, I'm not going to learn Esperanto in the faint hope that it will enable me to communicate with 0.03% of Inuit. I'll have a crack at Inuit instead. I'll probably make a pig's breakfast of it, but that's not the point.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #91 - January 04, 2012, 04:03 AM

    True -- in that situation, it wouldn't be a good idea to learn Esperanto. For me, personally, I like how you get to travel cheaply by staying with other Esperanto speakers abroad, who'll show you around the city, etc, I like the literature available in the language, which is of surprisingly good quality and international in nature, I like how there's so many gatherings and events in Esperanto all over the world, I like how I know that one day I'll be able to speak the language more or less perfectly, and I like how, apart from the languages I speak and probably Spanish, Esperanto is the one language that allows me to speak to diverse people from all over the world who're not concentrated in just one geographical location -- the language doesn't belong to any cultural group. And you know what I like best? I like how I can get all of that by learning a language that's 4-20 times easier than national languages to learn.

    Also, even in the situation you mentioned, if you find just one or two Esperanto speakers in the Arctic, you'll be able to converse with them fluently and they'll be able to tell you all about the place (and even act as interpreters). Esperanto speakers tend to be very nice to samideanoj (those who also speak Esperanto), and a friend of mine told me it felt like having distant family all over the globe. Now while learning to speak an Inuit language fluently would definitely be better, it's extremely hard to achieve (especially if you're just going to spend 6 months there), and speaking Esperanto fluently with a couple of locals is better than speaking rudimentary Inuit with all of them, and plus: it only has to be learned once, while you'd have to learn a different language for each place you want to stay 6 months in.

    Now that's just the way I look at it -- when I first read about Esperanto, I thought it was absolutely fascinating. If you feel naturally averse to the idea, then obviously you won't be motivated enough to learn it, and nothing can change that.

    Now back to the one thing that we as ex-Muslims can all agree on -- Arabic would be a terrible international lingua franca!

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #92 - January 04, 2012, 05:28 AM

    So would French. Bloody lingua francas should be kept away from the Franks. yes

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #93 - January 04, 2012, 05:42 AM

    You know, French is still the lingua franca of the Arab intelligentsia. It's why I decided to learn it, in fact -- once I was at this lecture about Ottoman art (in Arabic), and after it was over, I saw all these distinguished professors from all over the Arab world, Egyptians, Moroccans, Lebanese, Iraqi, Emirati talking to each other in French! It was unbelievable. That's when I knew I had to learn French.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #94 - January 04, 2012, 05:45 AM

    What? The language of the Franks is still the lingua franca? Should be a law against it.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #95 - January 04, 2012, 05:56 AM

    Oh come on, we all know it's every man's desire to make love to a French woman and hear her whisper "Je t'aime, mon amour" into his ears. Or, in my case, "LÈCHE-MOI ET FAIS-MOI JOUIR, HARAKAAAAAT!"

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #96 - January 04, 2012, 06:07 AM

    Umm, no. Although I did used to like the Addams Family, when Tish would start with the French and Gomez would go crazy. Grin

    I am, of course, referring to the original Morticia, rather than those second rate floozies who imposted most deplorably. The original Mortica was awesomesauce.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #97 - January 04, 2012, 06:16 AM

     Cheesy +1

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #98 - January 27, 2012, 01:52 PM

  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #99 - January 30, 2012, 03:56 PM

    Look, I really don't mind you joking about Esperanto or Esperanto speakers. We even do that ourselves. But at least make your jokes funny :/

    1. Learning Esperanto does not make your communication completely "unambiguous and logical" like Lojban does, and no one even claims that
    2. Not everyone who speaks Esperanto chose to learn it. You have people who learned it as their first language, people who learned it at school, people who learned it out of religious obligation (the Baha'í Faith heavily recommends adopting an IAL)...

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #100 - January 31, 2012, 04:30 PM

    I thought it was pretty funny grin12

    And it's made even funnier by your butthurt attitude.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #101 - January 31, 2012, 04:56 PM

    What she said.
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #102 - January 31, 2012, 05:00 PM

    I thought it was pretty funny grin12

    And it's made even funnier by your butthurt attitude.


    Of course you thought it's funny, you know nothing about Esperantist demographics so you just made your own assumptions.

    And yeah, sure, I'm "butthurt" about that joke  Roll Eyes Whatever you say.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #103 - January 31, 2012, 05:05 PM

    What she said.


    Would you be "butthurt" if someone laughed at that old "Mr Atheist, you can't see your brain therefore you don't have one! Haha!" joke? No, you'd probably just be mildly amused.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #104 - January 31, 2012, 05:21 PM

  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #105 - January 31, 2012, 05:23 PM

    No wait I like this one more

  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #106 - January 31, 2012, 05:25 PM

    lol, okay

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Esperanto!
     Reply #107 - January 31, 2012, 05:26 PM

    Funnily enough, I was constipated and just shat, and I am literally quite butthurt at the moment.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
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