Was the Creation of Modern Israel a Big Mistake?

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Reply #60 - April 12, 2012, 09:42 AM

Quote from: devilsadvokat on April 12, 2012, 12:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

In response to one of yeezevee's video links where some christian?? thinks the palestinians only left because they were told to do so.

Rubbish..... The Palestinian problem right from the beginning is is nothing to do with Christians living around that area., but it is everything to do with Islam and brain washing people including 2 year old children with Islamic nonsense ., It is not just Palestine children but Muslim Children from all over the world that are nothing to do with Israelis and Palestinians. You are one of those children. And Devil however badly written that article in Wiki is., even that you have not read it carefully..

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Reply #61 - April 12, 2012, 09:54 AM

This thread makes me yawn.

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Reply #62 - April 12, 2012, 09:56 AM

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This thread makes me yawn.

Well I put people to sleep on such discussions

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Reply #63 - April 12, 2012, 10:22 AM

Personally I don't give a shit about pseudo philosophical/quasi historical questions of blame, hindsight and legitimacy. That's all in the past, all I care about here is the human condition, and currently there are a lot of people suffering in poverty, terror and misery in the Middle East and in Israel/Palestine especially, that should be solved first, all the intellectual masturbation and identity wars should come later.

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Reply #64 - April 12, 2012, 11:39 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 12, 2012, 09:56 AM
Well I put people to sleep on such discussions

And you seem to be doing a good job

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Reply #65 - April 12, 2012, 12:13 PM

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And yet every Pakistani I know, esp. outside Pakistan, thinks they should be spending their time hating Israel.

That is my understanding - the now centuries old - why is protocols a top seller in Muslim countries? - continual demonisation of Israel, and others - India, "the west" "great shatan".

Take the plank out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in someone elses!

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Reply #66 - April 12, 2012, 12:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqjwLKdg9ro&feature=player_embedded

And this fool says Moses was a Muslim who led Palestinian Muslims out of Egypt and liberated Palestine

Yap.. There were never Jews on the face earth Everyone starting from Abraham all are Muslims..

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Reply #67 - April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM

Quote from: Colonel Q-Daffi on April 11, 2012, 11:46 PM
Yeah, but this isn't all about the perspective of the Muslims, especially those outside of Palestine-- it has an impact, but it's much less important than the rights of the Palestinians, which include Christians and secularists and atheists along with traditional Muslims.

Just for the record I find all these comments of yours, coming from a Tudjman apologist, to be quite funny.

Yes Q-man, i am funny. And I am glad that i made you laugh.

Once a muslim friend advised me ''you should stay silent about Israel''. Another guy told me ''shut up and marry a Jew''.

And you know what's funny, too? It's funny when an Arab guy sits in a caffe with his Jewish girlfriend , telling her '' your homeland will soon be wiped off the map'' (it happened to a friend of mine).

It's funny when muslims cry over Jews killed by Christians, yet they cheer to Hamas and Hezbollah…

It's funny how muslims claim that Jews were protected in Ottoman empire , yet they stay silent about Jews who were evicted from Arab countries after 1948.

When i read ''Jews were fighting together with muslims against crusaders'' i can only roll my eyes. How is that possible if Jews have been absent from Middle East in the last 2000 years.

And it's funny how much energy and zeal is spent on discussing Israel /Palestine, while other issues and conflicts involving muslims are ignored.

I must dissapoint you, i am not Franjo Tudjman apologist. I don't consider him a great statesman, and I have no problem admitting that crimes were commited over Serbian people after action ''Storm'' and that croatian forces commited crimes in Bosnia on muslim civilians.

But one should not forget how many croatian civilians were evicted from their homes when Serbian terrorists proclaimed ''Srpska Krajina '' on croatian territory . And let's not forget christians who were murderd by holly mujahideen warriors.

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Reply #68 - April 12, 2012, 01:24 PM

Quote from: devilsadvokat on March 15, 2012, 02:27 PM
Imo it is nothing like Iraq or the other countries carved out of the Ottoman Empire (another western import - nationalism), it did not necessitate shipping in people from a different continent/areas of the world. I also don't think the creation of Israel was a mistake, but rather than just the method of its creation i think a jewish homeland should not be in the middle east. If anyhting they should have been given German territory.

To have occupied the middle-East then given segments of it away to someone else was arrogance of collossal proportions on behalf of the Imperialist powers of the day, and although the people of the region have suffered ever since, the suffering is beginning to spread to other regions.

Of course, it's always different when Israel .

Should Turkey give Armenians a little bit of territory?

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Reply #69 - April 12, 2012, 01:37 PM

How about Circassian diaspora in Turkey? Armenians in Middle East? Should they be allowed to come back to their caucasian homelands?

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Reply #70 - April 12, 2012, 02:23 PM

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
Yes Q-man, i am funny. And I am glad that i made you laugh.

Once a muslim friend advised me ''you should stay silent about Israel''. Another guy told me ''shut up and marry a Jew''.

And? Are Muslims the only people that can such things?

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
And you know what's funny, too? It's funny when an Arab guy sits in a caffe with his Jewish girlfriend , telling her '' your homeland will soon be wiped off the map'' (it happened to a friend of mine).

She should dump him, if she's that bothered.

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
It's funny when muslims cry over Jews killed by Christians, yet they cheer to Hamas and Hezbollah…

It's funny how muslims claim that Jews were protected in Ottoman empire , yet they stay silent about Jews who were evicted from Arab countries after 1948.

Why do you group all muslims as being the same? oh and FYI Hamas and Hezbollah were founded way after 1948, if there was no occupation such groups wouldn't be as popular as they are today, at all. Afaik the only Christians killed by those two groups you mentioned were Lebanese Christian militias who fought the PLO (secular and Marxists) as well as Hezbollah. Remember Sabra and Shatila?

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
When i read ''Jews were fighting together with muslims against crusaders'' i can only roll my eyes. How is that possible if Jews have been absent from Middle East in the last 2000 years.

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There were Jews in Palestine before 1948......They never had a state for 2000 yrs, big difference. I don't know about Jews fighting alongside Muslims during the crusades, Salahuddin had a Jewish physician.

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
And it's funny how much energy and zeal is spent on discussing Israel /Palestine, while other issues and conflicts involving muslims are ignored.

The Arab-Israeli conflict certainly gets most of the limelight, but I don't think other issues and conflicts are "ignored". Can you name something that is ignored?

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:24 PM
Of course, it's always different when Israel .

Should Turkey give Armenians a little bit of territory?

Of course its different. Israel is the only that can violate dozens of UN resolutions and get away with it. Israel is the only nuclear armed state in the middle east. Its only Israel that has lobby groups, that can make or a break any American politician. Its only Israel and its supporters that cry "anti-Semitism" when its criticised. When was the last time you heard Saudi or any other Arab nation play the race card? So yeah it is fucking different. If Israel refuses to behave like most nations then it doesn't deserve to be treated normally.

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Reply #71 - April 12, 2012, 02:57 PM

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Yes Q-man, i am funny. And I am glad that i made you laugh.

Once a muslim friend advised me ''you should stay silent about Israel''. Another guy told me ''shut up and marry a Jew''.

And you know what's funny, too? It's funny when an Arab guy sits in a caffe with his Jewish girlfriend , telling her '' your homeland will soon be wiped off the map'' (it happened to a friend of mine).

It's funny when muslims cry over Jews killed by Christians, yet they cheer to Hamas and Hezbollah…

It's funny how muslims claim that Jews were protected in Ottoman empire , yet they stay silent about Jews who were evicted from Arab countries after 1948.

When i read ''Jews were fighting together with muslims against crusaders'' i can only roll my eyes. How is that possible if Jews have been absent from Middle East in the last 2000 years.

And it's funny how much energy and zeal is spent on discussing Israel /Palestine, while other issues and conflicts involving muslims are ignored.

The opinions of random Muslims on the topic is completely irrelevant to the central issue-- the decades-long foreign military occupation and dispossession of an entire people. Scoff at hypocritical Muslims all you like, doesn't bother me none, but the fact people are still making apologia for the occupation, or trying to deflect the issue by engaging in tu quoque arguments, is morally reprehensible.

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 12, 2012, 01:22 PM
I must dissapoint you, i am not Franjo Tudjman apologist. I don't consider him a great statesman, and I have no problem admitting that crimes were commited over Serbian people after action ''Storm'' and that croatian forces commited crimes in Bosnia on muslim civilians.

But one should not forget how many croatian civilians were evicted from their homes when Serbian terrorists proclaimed ''Srpska Krajina '' on croatian territory . And let's not forget christians who were murderd by holly mujahideen warriors.

HA! Heard the same crap from some Croatians I met at a party in LA-- some guy was there with a guitar playing nationalist songs others were singing along to while I had a couple of Croatians explain to me that yes crimes were committed, BUT the other side committed crimes too. Seems they liked tu quoque arguments too. All the same, fun party-- Croatians know how to party and the women are hot, so no complaints.

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Reply #72 - April 12, 2012, 08:37 PM

Quote from: Colonel Q-Daffi on April 12, 2012, 02:57 PM
The opinions of random Muslims on the topic is completely irrelevant to the central issue--...................

Sure Racoon ..Sure.., everything is irrelevant to anarchists except their own stubborn irrelevant ideas that solves nothing..

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Reply #73 - April 12, 2012, 08:43 PM

Why I Left Judaism A Juicy Juice

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I am glad your father was not REAL Muhammad following Muslim, if he was you would not be speaking like that ..

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Reply #74 - April 13, 2012, 12:29 AM

Quote from: Sprout on April 12, 2012, 10:22 AM
Personally I don't give a shit about pseudo philosophical/quasi historical questions of blame, hindsight and legitimacy. That's all in the past, all I care about here is the human condition, and currently there are a lot of people suffering in poverty, terror and misery in the Middle East and in Israel/Palestine especially, that should be solved first, all the intellectual masturbation and identity wars should come later.

It goes without saying that being a decent member of the human race, being concerned about every case of poverty, terror and misery all round the world, from deepest Africa to your local streets is a pre-requisite. That sounds like a class/gender struggle.

I dont know about intellectual masturbation but yes the presence of Yeezevee, (I think we should bond sometime dude)provides a good opponent. I do admire his ability to churn out his propaganda, it like he is paid to do it, the guy is prolific. Sharpens ones game/case, debating with pro-isreal posters. Palestine/israel is debated all over the net. Just adding my tuppence worth, on this site where yeezevee is.

I believe Israel is different to other countries in terms of nation-building mistakes because if you rated all of them, Israel is top of that tree (at least in its present geographical location) because it's fallout is going to be felt for centuries and considering the legitimacy (written in a holy book)coupled with its position being a crucible for the battleground between the fundamentalist branches of the three Abrahamic religions, trying to make their own prophecies the one to be fullfilled. For some Christians the existence of Israel is real-life proof for the evidence of God.

Strip all ther religious bullshit away, you are still left with people who were truly dispossessed.

Though of course i accept reality lol, it is to stay where it is, people have to deal with facts on the ground lol and israel is-real.

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Reply #75 - April 13, 2012, 12:47 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 12, 2012, 09:42 AM
Rubbish..... The Palestinian problem right from the beginning is is nothing to do with Christians living around that area.,

I did not refer to a christian by his location, I just said some christian, the white fellow on the left not the bearded brown bloke in your first video-link in this thread. The problem at the beginning had evrything to do with christians, even those who lived in the area - there was no love between palestinian christians and the immigrant jews.

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but it is everything to do with Islam and brain washing people including 2 year old children with Islamic nonsense ., It is not just Palestine children but Muslim Children from all over the world that are nothing to do with Israelis and Palestinians. You are one of those children.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbJnZUJTYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DIuluAMpO8

You push this - 'it's all about Islam'. But in historical terms you know that jews have lived more peacefully under muslim rule than amongst christians. Highlighting what bigots of every nature- what you think they teach in the ultra-whateva settler jews/zionist household. Look up their holy scriptures and you will find out. Zionism ...Political Judaism?

I am one of them children lol, no i decide to fight for the underdog.

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And Devil however badly written that article in Wiki is., even that you have not read it carefully..

Badly written, how? Grammatically or interpretation?

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Reply #76 - April 13, 2012, 12:59 AM

Quote from: moi on April 12, 2012, 12:13 PM
That is my understanding - the now centuries old - why is protocols a top seller in Muslim countries? - continual demonisation of Israel, and others - India, "the west" "great shatan".

I have no problem with india, (apart from the caste and termination of female foetuses/young girls and searing poverty - but every recent third-world country has its cultural baggage, kudos for it's nature for getting on in the modern world.

I like pakistan to beat them at cricket though. I live in the west and i love living in it doesn't mean you can't complain about it.

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Reply #77 - April 13, 2012, 01:00 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 12, 2012, 12:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqjwLKdg9ro&feature=player_embedded

And this fool says Moses was a Muslim who led Palestinian Muslims out of Egypt and liberated Palestine

Yap.. There were never Jews on the face earth Everyone starting from Abraham all are Muslims..

Point??

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Reply #78 - April 13, 2012, 01:06 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 12, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sure Racoon ..Sure.., everything is irrelevant to anarchists except their own stubborn irrelevant ideas that solves nothing..

Let me give you some Juice to drink..

The Forgotten Refugees of middle East (Part 1)

The Forgotten Refugees of middle East (Part 2)

The Forgotten Refugees of middle East (Part 3)

The Forgotten Refugees of middle East (Part 4)

The Forgotten Refugees of middle East (Part 5)

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Claims that the Nakba is equivalent to the Jewish exodus from Arab countries

In response to the Palestinian Nakba narrative, the term "Jewish Nakba" has sometimes been used to refer to the persecution and expulsion of Jews from Arab countries in the years and decades following the creation of the State of Israel. Israeli columnist Ben Dror Yemini wrote:[101]

However, there is another Nakba: the Jewish Nakba. During those same years [the 1940's], there was a long line of slaughters, of pogroms, of property confiscation and of deportations against Jews in Islamic countries. This chapter of history has been left in the shadows. The Jewish Nakba was worse than the Palestinian Nakba. The only difference is that the Jews did not turn that Nakba into their founding ethos. To the contrary.

Professor Ada Aharoni, chairman of The World Congress of the Jews from Egypt, argues in an article entitled "What about the Jewish Nakba?" that exposing the truth about the expulsion of the Jews from Arab states could facilitate a genuine peace process, since it would enable Palestinians to realize they were not the only ones who suffered, and thus their sense of "victimization and rejectionism" will decline.[102]

Israeli historian Yehoshua Porath has rejected the comparison, arguing that the ideological and historical significance of the two population movements are totally different and that any similarity is superficial. Porath points out that the immigration of Jews from Arab countries to Israel was the "fulfilment of a national dream". He also argues that the achievement of this Zionist goal was only made possible through the endeavors of the Jewish Agency's agents, teachers, and instructors working in various Arab countries since the 1930's. Porath contrasts this with what he calls the "national calamity" and "unending personal tragedies" suffered by the Palestinians that resulted in "the collapse of the Palestinian community, the fragmentation of a people, and the loss of a country that had in the past been mostly Arabic-speaking and Islamic."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

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Reply #79 - April 13, 2012, 01:20 AM

Quote from: nessrriinn on March 14, 2012, 02:05 AM
people are the mistake.. we fuck everything up..

This platitude becomes weirdly untrue when uttered by Nesrin. Stop it, sister!

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Reply #80 - April 13, 2012, 01:26 AM

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Word Up - so not religion yeah? Which is what the 'zionists, both jewish and christian)use as the prism for seeing the israeli/palestinian problem.

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Reply #81 - April 13, 2012, 02:25 AM

Quote from: yeezevee on April 12, 2012, 09:29 AM
You are WRONG., In America, Military personal are NOT sacred cows unlike land of pure or for that mater in many totalitarian regimes. What Americans may do is spend some of their tax payers money for protecting their nations. That is different from Military personal being sacred cow

Most countries are supportive of their troops, here in the Uk 'our boys' 'heroes' are given their dues by the nation, if you don't agree with the wras that they fight, it is the fault of their leaders in govenment. Protecting their nations? plural, is that israel also? They are usually the type to do the invading than be invaded.

Anyways here is a tune that was released mid-eighties was number one for five/six weeks in the UK, but was banned in the United States of Freedom!! Must have broken blasphemy laws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3LdMAqUMnM

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Reply #82 - April 13, 2012, 09:06 AM

Yeez loves to argue about Israel/Palestine, thats one thing for sure

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Reply #83 - April 13, 2012, 09:16 AM

Quote from: Cato on April 13, 2012, 09:06 AM
Yeez loves to argue about Israel/Palestine, thats one thing for sure

Cato, dear Cato., Devils need answers for their questions. other wise they create more devils., we have enough running around the planet..

So yes., yeezevee tries his best to answer and convince devils to come out of the devils den..

And I will answer all posts of devilsadvokat ... it is just time constrains....

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Reply #84 - April 13, 2012, 01:45 PM

Yes, Q-men, everything is a crap. Dead Croatians are crap. Dead Jews are crap.

Only dead Muslims are not crap. They are human beings.

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Reply #85 - April 13, 2012, 01:48 PM

Anyway, Christopher Hitchens said: i am against zionism. He even mocked Hannukah as a ''backward, tribalistic holliday''.

At the same time, he was passionately supporting Kurds in their fight for state.

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Reply #86 - April 13, 2012, 03:43 PM

Quote from: Merry_Squirell on April 13, 2012, 01:45 PM
Yes, Q-men, everything is a crap. Dead Croatians are crap. Dead Jews are crap.

Only dead Muslims are not crap. They are human beings.

Way to argue against something I never said nor implied and is completely irrelevant to what I was discussing. Beat that strawman! Beat the shit out of it! Pretend it's a Serb or a Bosniak or a Palestinian.

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Reply #87 - April 15, 2012, 08:14 AM

Let's imagine that Israel is destroyed, gone...and Jews are transffered somewhere to Europe, Germany or Poland, or to Autonomous Jewish Oblast in Russia....

After some time, muslims start complaining 'there are too many Jews in Europe'' ...Let's bring them to Africa...

Would you support muslims in that matter?

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Re: Was the Creation of of Modern Israel a Big Mistake?
Reply #88 - April 15, 2012, 08:18 AM

What do you think, if Arab armies in 1948 managed to defeat Israel and ''throw Jews in sea'' , what would happen to the Jews who survived ? Would they be dhimmis in Arab state? Or something else?

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Re: Was the Creation of of Modern Israel a Big Mistake?
Reply #89 - April 15, 2012, 08:28 AM

Q-man i don't like using ''tu quoque'' that much, too. But you see, people say ''yes all states are bad, but Israel is especially bad...

On RevLeft forum i see ''all states should be dismantled, but especially Israel...

Yes these Jews are always special..

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