Not really. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of religious believers don't believe completely in whoever's religion they belong to. I mean have you read some of the Hadith and go, you know that doesn't make a lot of sense instead of going yea that is woven in the natural fabric of the universe and is completely and absolutely true. There are parts of the hadith and quran that allude to this in saying " Hey I know this doesn't make a lot of sense to you normal people, but hey I'm God so I'm right and you're wrong so don't question and do what I say" Which come to think of it, is a lot of religion.
Well, that does make sense if the religion is from God. I mean, if the religion IS from God, then naturally everything within it (assuming it's free from corruption) is morally correct.
Now does that sound like a being elucidating the transendent moral order of the universe or a person trying to convince people to go against their better judgement to achieve whatever political gains he/she or it wanted?
I don't see the political relevance of homosexuality in Muhammad's time. (Still tempted to write "Peace be upon him"...)
When you think of homosexuals and you get past the inicial ick factor, which religions rely on so heavily do you really think there is some objective reason why someone who is naturally attracted to the same sex and acts on those desires without harming anyone else should be killed? I'm willing to be you'd say, "well not really".
I'd say: "Well not really, to the best of my knowledge."
And that's what makes the difference. God would have perfect knowledge, and obviously mankind's knowledge is increasing, plus we gain knowledge from our collective experiences and history too. So our moral standards, if based on simply our reasoning, are subject to revision whenever we learn something new -- which is like, every second.
And so "objective morality" is reduced to begging you believe that some unknown being knows more than you, but won't tell you why homosexuals should be killed.
Yeah, pretty much. But I guess all moral systems have to rely on common sense to some degree.
I'm willing to bet your "subjective morality" is better tuned than any of the "objective morality" systems out there.
In your opinion.
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