Cleanliness and Personal Hygiene in Islam

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Re: Cleanliness and Personal Hygiene in Islam
Reply #30 - July 29, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 05:33 PM
One of my colleague whom I witnessed lacking in the habit of hand washing was infected by hepatitis and hospitalised.

Right, and you extrapolate from that one case and form the prejudices and narrowmindedness we see you reveal here today. Limited experience has made you a stunted, retarded creature.

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 05:33 PM
My apology, Ishina, personal hygiene is not important for you perhaps, but we many forums discussed about this nowadays.

And the interesting thing here is that you wouldn't make this assumption about me had I professed belief in Allah. That's how you judge the worth of a person.

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #31 - July 29, 2012, 06:17 PM

You just took one hadith in Bukhari and implement generalization. Do you ever observe Muslims dipping the flies they caught into their drinks by using their chopsticks with KungFu style?

Anyway, that hadith is preposterous actually.

But in general, as an Ex-Muslim, I am not ashamed to admit certain aspect of Islam, especially cleanliness.
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Reply #32 - July 29, 2012, 06:22 PM

Quote from: Ishina on July 29, 2012, 06:14 PM
Right, and you extrapolate from that one case and form the prejudices and narrowmindedness we see you reveal here today. Limited experience has made you a stunted, retarded creature.
And the interesting thing here is that you wouldn't make this assumption about me had I professed belief in Allah. That's how you judge the worth of a person.

We all loss our believe in a diety, I am an agnostic now. I merely share with you what I observe. You guys and girls bombarded me with insults just because I highlighted one positive aspects of Islam, which is certainly true. I also observe negative aspects of Islam, as my first post implied, but you people had already know that or even acquainted with that already.
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Reply #33 - July 29, 2012, 06:24 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 06:17 PM
You just took one hadith in Bukhari and implement generalization. Do you ever observe Muslims dipping the flies they caught into their drinks by using their chopsticks with KungFu style?

Anyway, that hadith is preposterous actually.

But in general, as an Ex-Muslim, I am not ashamed to admit certain aspect of Islam, especially cleanliness.

So because a lot of muslims don't follow that particular hadith we should disregard it? Mind = Blown. The fact still remains that the hadith tells muslims to dip flies into drinks/foods.

No one here is 'ashamed' to admit it if Islam actually had any aspect of cleanliness, but the matter of the fact is, it doesn't do anything extraordinary which wasn't known to people of that time.
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Reply #34 - July 29, 2012, 06:25 PM

Quote from: ZOMG on July 29, 2012, 06:01 PM
Cleanliness in Islam?

So do you agree it's hygienic to dip flies into your food/drink?

I protest .. that is educational .

flies eat shit.... that is about teaching genetic engineering and germ theory. Infidel can never understand prophet's words..

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Reply #35 - July 29, 2012, 06:28 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 06:22 PM
We all loss our believe in a diety, I am an agnostic now.

That's not the word I'd use to describe you.

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Reply #36 - July 29, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote from: ZOMG on July 29, 2012, 06:24 PM
So because a lot of muslims don't follow that particular hadith we should disregard it? Mind = Blown. The fact still remains that the hadith tells muslims to dip flies into drinks/foods.

No one here is 'ashamed' to admit it if Islam actually had any aspect of cleanliness, but the matter of the fact is, it doesn't do anything extraordinary which wasn't known to people of that time.

In actual fact, the tissue papers was invented in China in 7th century. The cleanliness aspect of Islam is worth mentioning here and it was extraordinary indeed. When the whole world had no concept of anal and penis cleanliness in those days, Islam came with a solution. Like it or not, do some researches and readings, if you will.
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Reply #37 - July 29, 2012, 06:30 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on July 29, 2012, 06:25 PM
I protest .. that is educational .

flies eat shit.... that is about teaching genetic engineering and germ theory. Infidel can never understand prophet's words..

lol.

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Reply #38 - July 29, 2012, 06:35 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 06:29 PM

When the whole world had no concept of anal and penis cleanliness in those days, Islam came with a solution.

You could make an Islamic version of this speech from Team America about that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs

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Reply #39 - July 29, 2012, 06:37 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 06:29 PM
In actual fact, the tissue papers was invented in China in 7th century. The cleanliness aspect of Islam is worth mentioning here and it was extraordinary indeed. When the whole world had no concept of anal and penis cleanliness in those days, Islam came with a solution. Like it or not, do some researches and readings, if you will.

I am not Very certain about it Shinsengumi.. may be they copied that from some Arabian pagans..

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Reply #40 - July 29, 2012, 06:51 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs

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Reply #41 - July 29, 2012, 10:40 PM

Quote from: Ishina on July 29, 2012, 04:44 PM
What the fuck are you, 5? Do you want a round of applause for going to the toilet on your own?

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Reply #42 - July 29, 2012, 11:01 PM

Quote from: Abood on July 29, 2012, 02:58 PM
You don't need to be a Muslim to wash your ass after taking a shit.

Indeed. But gargling after farting? That takes Islam…
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Reply #43 - July 29, 2012, 11:19 PM

Quote from: Kodanshi on July 29, 2012, 11:01 PM
Indeed. But gargling after farting? That takes Islam…

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Reply #44 - July 29, 2012, 11:23 PM

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #45 - July 29, 2012, 11:54 PM

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Quote from: Kodanshi on July 29, 2012, 11:01 PM
Indeed. But gargling after farting? That takes Islam…

Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on July 29, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Quote from: billy on July 29, 2012, 11:23 PM

you bloody infidels SHUTTTTTT UPPPPPP....

Stop laughing.... That "gargling after farting" is only if you hear sound or smells. If you fart without smell and sound you don't need "gargling after farting" ..

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Narrated 'Abbas bin Tamim (Razi Allah Anho): My uncle asked Allah's Apostle (Sal Allaho Alehi Wasallam) about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the prayer. Allah' Apostle (Sal Allaho Alehi Wasallam) replied: "He should not leave his prayers unless he hears sound or smells something."

Sahih Bukhari (4. Ablutions (Wudu)) - Hadith No. 139

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Reply #46 - July 30, 2012, 07:59 AM

Quote from: ZOMG on July 29, 2012, 06:01 PM
So do you agree it's hygienic to dip flies into your food/drink?

Or performing wuduu with the bath water of your menstruating wife.

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Reply #47 - July 30, 2012, 10:33 AM

Mock Them and Move on., ...........Stupid hadith....stupid people

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Reply #48 - July 30, 2012, 12:34 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 02:31 PM
One factor that I feel positive about Islam is the cleanliness and personal hygiene. We all as ex-Muslims must be familiar with the habit of washing after urination and bowel movement, which specifically encouraged by Islam. I live in a country where people neglected this basic hygiene requirement.

I observed many Non-Muslims let their clothes being spoiled by urine and do not wash their buttock, lack of personal hygiene, which solely offered by Islam.

Any opinion about this?

Have you ever been to india ?? ...in traditional hindu families, women cannot cook before taking bath ........learn about traditional indian hindu families and you will see they also take good care of cleanliness.....

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Reply #49 - July 30, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Have you ever been to india ?? ...in traditional hindu families, women cannot cook before taking bath ........learn about traditional indian hindu families and you will see they also take good care of cleanliness.....

Nope, never been to India. But the place I was from has many Hindus( by millions). So far, I never observe them having such practice, bath before cooking. Could it be an exaggeration?

Hindus are also obsess with cow dung as building material, and I cannot relate that with cleanliness.
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Reply #50 - July 30, 2012, 02:44 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 29, 2012, 02:31 PM
I forgot to introduce myself, I am an ex-Muslim. I was active in FFI forum before. Yeezevee may still remember me( I used other username back then.

I have been an ex-Muslim for about four years now, and didn't perform any of the Islamic rituals for this duration of time. However, sometimes I have this inner urge to "come back". The only reason that holding me back is Muhammad's character, his lust for 9 year old female and his polygamous marriage with young widows( safiyya, Juwayriyya, etc).

One factor that I feel positive about Islam is the cleanliness and personal hygiene. We all as ex-Muslims must be familiar with the habit of washing after urination and bowel movement, which specifically encouraged by Islam. I live in a country where people neglected this basic hygiene requirement. Sometimes I wonder why Islam emphasize on cleaning ourselves thoroughly. Though I didn't practice any of the Islamic rituals anymore, this habit is still perpetual in me and sometimes make me wonder to reconsider my apostasy.

I observed many Non-Muslims let their clothes being spoiled by urine and do not wash their buttock, lack of personal hygiene, which solely offered by Islam.

Don't get me wrong, I despise Muhammad who raided, looted and lusted, but I admire him as a man who manage to teach his followers on personal cleanliness.

Any opinion about this?

Why were those semitic tribes obsessed with water and cleaning? Simply,they lived in arid, hot area where there was no abundance of water.

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Reply #51 - July 30, 2012, 02:56 PM

Cow dung is an excellent building material - not a good idea to burn it though. And what is fascinating about this discussion is that there is no comment about the cleanliness of the water being used to wash!

And no discussion of some of the bathrooms I have seen, replete with wet and dry rot and condensation, because of certain washing habits!

Why did the koran not tell humanity about germs or vaccines, or sewage systems?

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Reply #52 - July 30, 2012, 03:21 PM

Quote from: moi on July 30, 2012, 02:56 PM
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Why did the koran not tell humanity about germs or vaccines,......................

hmm you infidels have not read Islamic scriptures with open mind .. A mullah should hit on your heads and make you understand about that fly medicine .. fly wings in glass.. Book of Islamic medicine etc..

“Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease”

The above statement proves the germ theory or vaccine production in fly is indeed discovered by Prophet of Islam. so you guys need to learn more on Islam ..

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Reply #53 - July 30, 2012, 03:43 PM

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 30, 2012, 01:01 PM
Nope, never been to India. But the place I was from has many Hindus( by millions). So far, I never observe them having such practice, bath before cooking. Could it be an exaggeration?

I have many hindu friends...and in discussion they told me ...it is not very widely practiced among hindus but in many traditional hindu families
....but one thing is common and i have observed that too in their houses that they take care of cleanliness just as any normal muslim take....washing hands before and after eating...... washing hands/feet after urinating ....

Quote from: Shinsengumi on July 30, 2012, 01:01 PM
Hindus are also obsess with cow dung as building material, and I cannot relate that with cleanliness.

well can't comment on that as i have not observed in those whom i know...but have heard of this ...

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Reply #54 - July 30, 2012, 03:44 PM

if m not wrong....from sources have heard that budhists are also very careful about cleanliness

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Reply #55 - July 30, 2012, 07:03 PM

I still use the "lota" for istinja. If I'm ever at a service station, I'll buy a cheap bottle of water.
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Reply #56 - July 30, 2012, 07:05 PM

Quote from: moi on July 30, 2012, 02:56 PM
Why did the koran not tell humanity about germs or vaccines, or sewage systems?

Don't be silly. Everyone knows Islamic nations are world leaders in healthcare, hygiene and sanitation.

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Reply #57 - July 30, 2012, 07:27 PM

Omaar K. Lol, the things I have used as a water vessel. Remember being round some girls yard and in her bathroom there was only a vase (flowers taken out).

Spent or should I say misspent days in some rough pool/card houses and the women behind the bar always thought I was smoking crack when hunting for empty 500 ml bottles of coke. Just the right amount as long as you can direct it well.

No skid marks! Got to be a good thing.

And another thing, the lota - has never had a makeover. Some families have 10th grand bathrooms but a standard lota. Think there is scope for contemporary/designer lotas. Match the bathrooms. I don't think these water mixers quite cut it.

Again, no skid marks.

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Reply #58 - July 30, 2012, 08:22 PM

Actually I was amazed that places in Mecca still do not have running water, and I just read that the water in Mecca tastes horrible of sulphur and salt. Is it correct that one of the main springs tastes awful?

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Reply #59 - July 30, 2012, 08:38 PM

Long before it became cool for guys to shave their pubes and armpit hair, Islam told me to do it
I gotta thank being raised Muslim for that one.
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