Mehdi Hasan debating Richard Dawkins - Sat 22nd Dec 8pm on Al Jazeera

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Mehdi Hasan debating Richard Dawkins - Sat 22nd Dec 8pm on Al Jazeera
Reply #30 - December 27, 2012, 02:31 PM

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Mehdi Hasan debating Richard Dawkins - Sat 22nd Dec 8pm on Al Jazeera
Reply #31 - December 28, 2012, 12:47 AM

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You could be an accomplished businessman,journalist,writer,musician etc without degrees in the respective fields.

What does that have to do with what I said in my previous post. ?

In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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Reply #32 - December 28, 2012, 08:06 AM

You could run a business well with 'common sense' without reading or referring to any book on business in the process. An example of knowing what to do without reading or referring to a text as your decision.
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Reply #33 - January 05, 2013, 03:03 PM

i think the difference in positing a multiverse as opposed to positing a god is that we already KNOW that a universe can exist, we are living in one. we have evidence. so it is nowhere near as huge a leap to posit that there MAY be others. however we have NO evidence that ANY gods exist, or even can exist, hell, we dont even know what a god is! no scientist that i know of claims that multiverse is a fact, or even that there is evidence for it, just that it MAY be possible. it is just one of several ideas. science tries to explain the unkown based on what we DO know about reality. whereas religion tries to explain the unknown by apealing to magic, emotion, and the threat of eternal torment.

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Mehdi Hasan debating Richard Dawkins - Sat 22nd Dec 8pm on Al Jazeera
Reply #34 - January 08, 2013, 07:56 PM

is there an unedited version of this?
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Reply #35 - January 08, 2013, 11:08 PM

I hope Dawkins asked Mehdi Hasan why he is an asskisser for IRI (the Iranian regime) and Hezbollah?

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Reply #36 - January 08, 2013, 11:55 PM

Quote from: Adey5 on January 05, 2013, 03:03 PM
i think the difference in positing a multiverse as opposed to positing a god is that we already KNOW that a universe can exist, we are living in one. we have evidence. so it is nowhere near as huge a leap to posit that there MAY be others. however we have NO evidence that ANY gods exist, or even can exist, hell, we dont even know what a god is! no scientist that i know of claims that multiverse is a fact, or even that there is evidence for it, just that it MAY be possible. it is just one of several ideas. science tries to explain the unkown based on what we DO know about reality. whereas religion tries to explain the unknown by apealing to magic, emotion, and the threat of eternal torment.

The thing about multiverse theory is that while there is no evidence for or against it, the math points to it.

To anyone who is curious, check out these amazing nova documentaries. It's about 4 hours in total, but if there has even been a documentary series worth watching, it's this one.

Edit: In case they are blocked in your country on PBS:

Part 1 - What is Space?
Part 2 - The Illusion of Time
Part 3 - Quantum Leap
Part 4 - Universe or Multiverse?
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Mehdi Hasan debating Richard Dawkins - Sat 22nd Dec 8pm on Al Jazeera
Reply #37 - January 09, 2013, 01:14 AM

Quote from: Lilyesque on December 28, 2012, 08:06 AM
You could run a business well with 'common sense' without reading or referring to any book on business in the process. An example of knowing what to do without reading or referring to a text as your decision.

umm. I don't think I could agree with that analogy. I'm a business student and you really can't run a very successful business if you haven't read up on at least some of the basic essentials.

I mean if you don't know accounting well enough than that really cripples your decision making abilities. Unless your business is very small or your having some expert run it for you.

I get the point your trying to make though.

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Reply #38 - February 10, 2013, 07:58 AM

When Dawkins challenges him on his belief that Mo took the winged horse up to heaven forcing him to admit he believes this to be true ,however it would have been far more effective to have chosen another more embarrasing and patently false belief, If instead he had been made to agree with the Qoran's scientifics claim that salt water cannot mix with fresh water he would have cut a pathetic figure and been held up to more ridicule

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Reply #39 - February 10, 2013, 08:22 AM

I like the " Are you against torture in the war in terror?", "Are you against torture when Allah does it to disbelievers?"

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #40 - February 10, 2013, 10:51 AM

Its times like this that I realise how much we miss Hitchens.

A debate between him and Mehdi Hasan would certainly have been interesting.

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Reply #41 - February 10, 2013, 04:14 PM

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Its times like this that I realise how much we miss Hitchens.

A debate between him and Mehdi Hasan would certainly have been interesting.

Yeah Hitchens would have never let him get away with saying

"The terrorists actions are caused by political grievances not religious motives"

If I was there I would have told Mehdi Hassan " With, Islam politics and religion are one and the same so yes they commit acts of terrorism because of their political grievousness of not having an Islamic caliphate which are a direct result of their religious beliefs. IMO Dawkins shouldn't have let Mehdi off the hook for saying that.

I think it would be better for Dawkins to stick to the "Does God Exist Debate" He's better at those unless Philosophy comes up. Then he doesn't really respond well to Philosophical arguments either.

On second thought I think it's better for Dawkins to stick to educating people about science. That's what he really excels at. In fact I deconverted by watching his documentaries on Science not his documentaries on religion. Or if he attacks religion he should do it by talking about evolutionary origins of morality and the evolutionary origins of religion.

Hitchens excelled at debates on the social impact of religion(can't yet find anyone who matches his skill in that) but was bad at debates regarding the existence of God.

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