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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #30 - January 20, 2013, 10:33 AM
    Quote from: sethyboy0 on January 20, 2013, 03:05 AM


    Just calm your tits.


    You're not sexist at all.  No siree, no sirbob, the fact that in a debate with someone who has become upset over a race stereotype, you say he should calm his tits, in no way suggests that people getting upset is womanish?

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #31 - January 20, 2013, 10:38 AM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 19, 2013, 02:41 PM
    You know I've always had a problem with the characterization of Muhammad as a "pedophile", not that I have any special love for him, but I just think these claims are flimsy and inaccurate, so I will give my reasons. Sorry for going topic, but I need to get this off my chest.

    First off, when I hear of the word "pedophile" what comes to mind is a creepy old white dude that has some kind of sexual predisposition to like little boys/girls, and is always preying on them etc.  If you look at the definition of the word pedophile:

    " a psychiatric disorder in persons 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children" or a "disorder of adult personality and behaviour in which there is a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age."

    Now, does what we know about Muhammad indicate to us he has a sexual preference for little girls?

    1. Muhammad was married to , and only to Khadiha (who was about 40), for 25 years. He wasn't married for years later.
    2. The marriage of Aisha was a result of Abu Bakr's suggestion/insistence. Muhammad did not seek the marriage. Most agree this marriage happened so they could solidify family/political ties, as was common in the time. Nothing I know seems to indicate he had a particular urge for little girls.

    Now say, would Muhammad have married Aisha if Abu Bakr did not have six year old daughter? I don't think there's any reason to believe so.

    As said, a pedophile has sexual fantasies about little children and/or has a preference for them. Many of you will say he was a warlord/dictator etc, why then didn't he get himself more child brides? Or got another child wife once Aisha passed puberty? He certainly was in the position and could have if he wanted to. I don't think there's any reason other than mere circumstance that Muhammad got into a relationship with Aisha. You may at the very best call Muhammad's alleged sex with a six year old "pedophillic behavior" but that doesn't really meet the definition of a real pedophile.

    Now, this all is of course assuming the selective hadiths that tell us this story are accurate. But again, hadiths as know often contradictory and/or unreliable/forgeries. What would you say to the Muslim that invokes "scientific scrutiny" of the hadith to disprove it/claim it unreliable? There seems to be a good case made here if you read below: http://www.ilaam.net/Articles/Ayesha.htmly


    I would say the fact that he had a preference and favouritism for Aisha over all his other wives, and that he had designs to marry someone's baby but died before it happened, is an argument against your post. 


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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #32 - January 20, 2013, 10:45 AM
    I've tried to rationalise this before, on numerous occasions. I used the cultural excuse, the tribe excuse, the evolution of language excuse. The fact is he was 50 and she was 6, and it doesn't matter if 1000 other men in his neighbourhood did it, by today's standards, it's disgusting and unacceptable.

    My grandma got married when she was 8, my grandpa nearly 10 years older; I thought it was gross, but I can understand the cultural difference- where girls didn't go to school, and instead get married and have babies. 8 and 18 in Australia, is that even legal? But over there, they think it's perfectly fine. My grandma had 13 kids, 7 girls, who all got married in their 30's and have careers - thanks to having access to school. I can sympathise with the cultural difference when there are factors like schooling and education that affect it. The cycle broke with my aunts, who have 1-3 children each.

    Even if you're sympathetic to cultural issues like I am, you should be able to see the difference between unavoidable cultural factors like poverty and no education + social norms to get married young instead of going to school, as opposed to a 50 year old man who has 12 women, including a 6 year old, who had access to anything he wanted. There's just no defence for him...
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #33 - January 20, 2013, 10:48 AM
    Quote from: Jila on January 20, 2013, 10:45 AM
    I've tried to rationalise this before, on numerous occasions. I used the cultural excuse, the tribe excuse, the evolution of language excuse. The fact is he was 50 and she was 6, and it doesn't matter if 1000 other men in his neighbourhood did it, by today's standards, it's disgusting and unacceptable.

    I believe close friends (as he was with AbuBakr) were literally considered brothers in those times. So it was as if he married his niece. So really, even by that time's standards it was ew.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #34 - January 20, 2013, 10:49 AM
    There is even a hadith in which Abu Bakr pretty much says woah dude, how can that be, I am your brother.  So yea, Eww factor needed Allah to command over it. 
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #35 - January 20, 2013, 10:56 AM
    Oh also, Muslims know there's no defence for him, that's why they squirm at this topic and rush to whatever excuse they can find. Unfortunately, all the rules they follow ban them from disagreeing with his ways. Let's see any Muslim man give his 6 year old to the most pious, famous Saudi sheikh out there. That will be a tiny percentage.

    Btw regarding the racism thing on this thread. I didn't ever want to reply to that stuff, but seeing the undermining of other's racial discrimination experience yet again - not cool. Take it from someone who had police drag an attacker away after she poked her flag in my face in front of everyone in a cafe. These experiences all add up, and I roll my eyes every time some dipshit comes on TV and undermines personal stories by saying there's no racism here. There is, and you're lucky it didn't happen to you, but don't undermine/mock others just because it hasn't happened to you yet or say people are sensitive.  rant
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #36 - January 20, 2013, 11:06 AM
    Quote from: BerberElla on January 20, 2013, 10:49 AM
    There is even a hadith in which Abu Bakr pretty much says woah dude, how can that be, I am your brother.  So yea, Eww factor needed Allah to command over it. 

    Yup, Sahih Bukhari 7: 62: 18

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    Narrated 'Ursa:

    The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #37 - January 20, 2013, 11:22 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 20, 2013, 08:31 AM
    The odd thing about Z-bo's "pedophiles are creepy white dudes" comment is that he used that to support his view that Mo wasn't a pedo. As if to say, "he wasn't a middle-aged white guy with a van, so how can he be a pedophile?".


    That's your own poor interpretation of the comment. It isn't really about his age or race, but he is someone who is always on the prey for children and gets sexually aroused by them.

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    Nevermind that some Hadith refer to Mo being white.


    Not the point.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #38 - January 20, 2013, 11:33 AM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 20, 2013, 11:22 AM
    That's your own poor interpretation of the comment. It isn't really about his age or race, but he is someone who is always on the prey for children and gets sexually aroused by them.


    It's been demonstrated that he:
    1.) preferred his child bride over all his other wives and if Hadith is anything to go by he spent most of his time with her. 
    2.) wanted to marry a fucking baby. 

    I think it's safe to conclude he was a pedo. 
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #39 - January 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
    @Al-Alethia

    What you are doing here is whipping up a story by selectively picking hadiths, regardless if they contradict each other or if they're considered reliable. For all those claims you made i.e Muhammad wanted Aisha,  Abu Bakr was hesitant, Aisha was prepubescent, I can give you my own hadiths that say quite the opposite. The point here is we can all make up a story and speculate about Muhammad's marriage with Aisha because the hadiths vary so much that we can all make up our own story.

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    Hadith tell us A'isha was playing with dolls and swings when she was taken to Mo; commentary by the Hadith collector states that A'isha was allowed to play with dolls because she was pre-pubescent. There is a strong case for A'isha being pre-pubescent when Mo started raping her. Meanwhile, there's no indication at all anywhere that she is not pre-pubescent or anything other than a playful little girl.


    Here is a different narrative:
    http://www.discoveringislam.org/aisha_age.htm

    But just from the top of my mind
    1. I'm sure there's a verse somewhere in the Quran that requires a women to have reach puberty before she can have sex.
    2. It is a incontrovertible historical fact that Aisha participated in the Battle of Badr, in 624. Aisha was born in 614.  There is strong evidence you had to be at least 15 to participate in raids at those times, do that says she could've been closer to if not 15...

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #40 - January 20, 2013, 12:10 PM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 20, 2013, 11:33 AM
    It's been demonstrated that he:
    1.) preferred his child bride over all his other wives and if Hadith is anything to go by he spent most of his time with her. 
    2.) wanted to marry a fucking baby. 

    I think it's safe to conclude he was a pedo. 


    1. That doesn't "prove" he was a pedophile.
    2. This is pure conjecture. Anyway I checked and that hadith is largely dismissed as a forgery. Regardless, you said Muhammad wanted to marry this baby when it "grows up". Since when was it pedophillia to want to marry a baby when it grows up? It's sick, but that's not what a pedophile is.

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    I recall a Hadith where a baby girl was playing and he remarked that if he is alive when she's older he'll marry her. A fucking baby!


    No, you haven't concluded anything. Just that you have the analytic skills of 7th grader.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #41 - January 20, 2013, 12:14 PM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
    @Al-Alethia

    What you are doing here is whipping up a story by selectively picking hadiths, regardless if they contradict each other or if they're considered reliable. For all those claims you made i.e Muhammad wanted Aisha,  Abu Bakr was hesitant, Aisha was prepubescent, I can give you my own hadiths that say quite the opposite. The point here is we can all make up a story and speculate about Muhammad's marriage with Aisha because the hadiths vary so much that we can all make up our own story.

    Here is a different narrative:
    http://www.discoveringislam.org/aisha_age.htm

    But just from the top of my mind
    1. I'm sure there's a verse somewhere in the Quran that requires a women to have reach puberty before she can have sex.
    2. It is a incontrovertible historical fact that Aisha participated in the Battle of Badr, in 624. Aisha was born in 614.  There is strong evidence you had to be at least 15 to participate in raids at those times, do that says she could've been closer to if not 15...




    Being sure isn't good enough, please provide it.

    I recall nothing that says in the quran no sex until she reaches sexual maturity, just verses about how to deal with those of your wives who haven't started bleeding yet.

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #42 - January 20, 2013, 12:17 PM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 20, 2013, 12:10 PM
    1. That doesn't "prove" he was a pedophile.
    2. This is pure conjecture. Anyway I checked and that hadith is largely dismissed as a forgery. Regardless, you said Muhammad wanted to marry this baby when it "grows up". Since when was it pedophillia to want to marry a baby when it grows up? It's sick, but that's not what a pedophile is.

    No, you haven't concluded anything. Just that you have the analytic skills of 7th grader.


    actually it is.

    Infantophilia is the sexual attraction to babies.  Pedophilia is for children who have not yet reached puberty, but who aren't babies.

    No one is calling Mo an infantophile, but rather a pedophile, who would actually want to baby to be older.

    Whose analytical skills need a little brushing up?   Wink
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #43 - January 20, 2013, 12:18 PM
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    I would say the fact that he had a preference and favouritism for Aisha over all his other wives, and that he had designs to marry someone's baby but died before it happened, is an argument against your post.  


    Ok this is the second time I'm hearing this. Does the fact Muhammad favourited or loved Aisha more than his other wives say anything about whether he is a pedohpile? To believe that would be to also believe that he loved her more because she stimulated him more sexually, or that the "extra love" was because she was young or prepubescent. Do we have anything to suggest he loved her more only because she was younger? -- and not because she was funnier, prettier, more pious, more interesting etc etc....I hope you get my drift.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #44 - January 20, 2013, 12:21 PM
    I don't disagree with that.  We don't have proof, more a question.

    Mind you, his advise to a friend once was that he shouldn't marry the older woman he was considering, but rather a young girl who would make him happier.

    Could he have been projecting his own happy discovery on to his marriage recommendations?

    Just another question. 

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #45 - January 20, 2013, 12:34 PM
    Who knows? Smiley
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #46 - January 20, 2013, 02:01 PM
    @Z-bo

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    1. I'm sure there's a verse somewhere in the Quran that requires a women to have reach puberty before she can have sex.


    No there isn't, dear. As Berberella rightly pointed out, there is one that specifies how to divorce a wife who is yet to "begin her courses". 

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    2. It is a incontrovertible historical fact that Aisha participated in the Battle of Badr, in 624. Aisha was born in 614.  There is strong evidence you had to be at least 15 to participate in raids at those times, do that says she could've been closer to if not 15...

     
     015 A'isha didn't participate in raids; she was a female. The women were there to provide water, food, etc to the fighting men and A'isha would've been there for the same, ooh and to "comfort" Mo perhaps. 

    1. You do know that pedophiles aren't exclusively attracted to children; plenty are married and have sexual relationships with adults. It stands that his child bride was his favourite and he preferred her bed because revelations came to him there. Yeah right Roll Eyes

    2. His desire to marry a baby does indicate that his feelings for said baby weren't exactly of an innocent paternal nature, no? 



  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #47 - January 20, 2013, 02:19 PM
    Al-Alethia posts exactly what happymurtad would have said at every stage of this discussion. Great job!   clap
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #48 - January 20, 2013, 02:28 PM
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    A'isha didn't participate in raids; she was a female. The women were there to provide water, food, etc to the fighting men and A'isha would've been there for the same, ooh and to "comfort" Mo perhaps.


    That is still participation. I never said she physically fought.

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    You do know that pedophiles aren't exclusively attracted to children;


    I never said that. It could either be a primary/exclusive attraction or a preference to like children. You should try finish reading my sentences....

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    (Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up....(ref.10, p. 311)


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    2. His desire to marry a baby does indicate that his feelings for said baby weren't exactly of an innocent paternal nature, no?


     015 He didn't want to marry that girl as a baby but a "grown up" version of that baby. How do we know that this "grown up" baby he intended to marry was to be still a child and not an adult? You are just speculating.

    AGAIN.....this whole "wanting to marry a baby" theory is assuming that particular hadith is accurate. The reliability of that hadith is disputed and isn't exactly the sort of evidence you should run with as some kind of incontrovertible proof Muhammad was a pedo.  

    Ms.Alethia, you could believe he was a pedophile if you want to, but as Billy once said, just because you believe it to be true doesn't make it true Smiley. We'll just agree to disagree.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #49 - January 20, 2013, 03:24 PM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 20, 2013, 03:02 AM
    lol. what countless hadith do you speak of? you will find most of them are narrated by one person, Hisham.


    Well if I search the words "nine years old" on Sunnah.com, I get 14 different hadiths from many different narrators and Hadith books (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, Sunan an-Nasa'i, Ibn Majah) all saying that Aisha was 6 years old at engagement and 9 years old at "consummation", Abu Dawud even uses the word "intercourse" (in the English translation). I have heard it said that there are 4 different unique isnads for these different hadiths.

    http://sunnah.com/search/nine-years-old

    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 20, 2013, 03:02 AM
    anyway "sahih" hadith aren't as authentic as you think, A LOT if them are known to be forgeries/unreliable


    Fine but that is all we have to go on, and the Sirah of Ibn Hisham, and that also says she was 9 years old. If you want to reject all hadiths and Sira because some are not reliable then you may as well say that Muhammad never existed, otherwise you are cherry-picking the ones you like.
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #50 - January 20, 2013, 06:06 PM
    I've received the happymurtad seal of approval grin12 my day has officially been made I don't even care what anybody else says anymore bunny

    @Z-bo
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    That is still participation. I never said she physically fought. 


    Erm…if she wasn't fighting, the "must be at least 15 years old" rule doesn't apply to her so why did you invoke it? 

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    I never said that. It could either be a primary/exclusive attraction or a preference to like children. You should try finish reading my sentences....


    Then why oh why do you keep insisting that the fact that A'isha was his favourite is insignificant because a pedophile, according to you is…

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    someone who is always on the prey for children and gets sexually aroused by them.


    and you also invoked his marriage to Khadija as some kind of proof that he isn't a pedo. 

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    He didn't want to marry that girl as a baby but a "grown up" version of that baby. How do we know that this "grown up" baby he intended to marry was to be still a child and not an adult? You are just speculating. 


    I never said he wanted to marry the baby as an older child; that is speculative. He wanted to marry the baby, meaning he saw her and his heart lept, but perhaps even Muhammad knew that marrying babies was a bit too much hence the "I'll wait 'til she's older" part. I'm sorry but anyone who looks at a baby and feels anything remotely romantic or sexual is sick and a pedophile, especially when we put this account in context with Muhammad's other doings (i.e., marrying a 9-year-old). 

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    AGAIN.....this whole "wanting to marry a baby" theory is assuming that particular hadith is accurate. 


    Most of the Hadith is dodgy sounding but if you reject it, like TonyT said, how do you even know Mo existed? How do you know anything about him? 

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    The reliability of that hadith is disputed and isn't exactly the sort of evidence you should run with as some kind of incontrovertible proof Muhammad was a pedo.  


    It's just a drop in the ocean if you're talking proof that Muhammad was a pedo; we know he married a child, there's a verse in the Quran that implies it's okay to marry pre-pubescent girls and there's no condemnation or prohibition of marrying pre-pubescent girls to be found anywhere in Islam, there is, however, encouragement of marrying virgins and young women. 

     
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #51 - January 20, 2013, 10:37 PM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 19, 2013, 02:41 PM

    Now, does what we know about Muhammad indicate to us he has a sexual preference for little girls?

    1. Muhammad was married to , and only to Khadiha (who was about 40), for 25 years. He wasn't married for years later.



    Khadijah was a rich sugarmomma. Who knows what Muhammad got up to when he disappeared for days at a time. No doubt a lot of material was censored from hadith & biographical traditions. I don't buy the story that his marriage to Khadijah for 25 years is proof of monogamy. She was his meal ticket. A leopard doesn't change his spots. Maybe there was some cognitive dissonance when she died & he became a lecher (though using divine revelation to pilfer his adopted son's wife is nauseating enough to doubt stories of his previous fidelity).  
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #52 - February 01, 2013, 03:46 AM
    @asbie
    Now you're on my side?

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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #53 - February 01, 2013, 04:01 AM
    Quote from: Alex Lam Meem on February 01, 2013, 03:46 AM
    @asbie
    Now you're on my side?


    Do you mean intellectually, or physically? Because intellectually my position is far too nuanced and sophisticated to dwell in the vicinity of your philistinism.

    If on the other hand you mean physically, then I think being on your side might be something that can be arranged. Same goes for being behind, in your face, and any other such "top" positions for me that would be mutually amenable.  whistling2
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #54 - February 01, 2013, 11:09 AM
    Cheesy wth Asbie?
    Quote from: Alex Lam Meem on February 01, 2013, 03:46 AM
    @al-alethia
    Who is Mary Lou?


    A stock/stereotypical white girl I invented for the purposes of the discussion.
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #55 - February 01, 2013, 03:12 PM
    Quote from: Z-Bo on January 19, 2013, 02:41 PM
    You know I've always had a problem with the characterization of Muhammad as a "pedophile", not that I have any special love for him, but I just think these claims are flimsy and inaccurate, so I will give my reasons. Sorry for going topic, but I need to get this off my chest.

    This assumes critics of Mohammed are attempting to accurately evaluate his psychology according to modern medical convention. They are probably not. It's probably most often a rhetorical gut-feeling condemnation of what they perceive to be abuse against a child. In this respect, Mohammed is a "pedophile" - the go-to insult that carries enough condemning power to quickly and succinctly articulate their contempt for Mohammed; who, by Islam's own accounts, raped a child.

    Child molester, child abuser, child rapist, sex offender, nonce, kiddy fiddler, pedophile, all of the above. Pick an option, because the difference is negligible in most people's eyes. Pedophile is a good word in this case. It puts Mohammed clearly in the right stratum of moral depravity that his actions have earned him a place in.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #56 - February 02, 2013, 05:40 PM
    Quote from: e-raja on January 19, 2013, 07:30 PM
    I suspect it would depend on how much they believe his claims or loved him, on that count I'd say quite a majority would.


    The majority of fathers would have strangled him to death on the spot for just mentioning it.
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #57 - February 02, 2013, 06:12 PM
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    The majority of fathers would have strangled him to death on the spot for just mentioning it.


    You have to take in to account the reverence the Muslims hold for the prophet. The quasi-worship we see today tells me they would do a lot more messed up things if the prophet ordained it. They go berserk if  someone drew him, giving their young daughter to him would be a small case for devout Muslims.
  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #58 - February 03, 2013, 05:55 AM
    Quote from: asbie on February 01, 2013, 04:01 AM
    Do you mean intellectually, or physically? Because intellectually my position is far too nuanced and sophisticated to dwell in the vicinity of your philistinism.

    If on the other hand you mean physically, then I think being on your side might be something that can be arranged. Same goes for being behind, in your face, and any other such "top" positions for me that would be mutually amenable.  whistling2


    I don't suggest you try to work out your issue with your unsightly genitalia on the forum. Strongly suggest.

    @al-Al

    I'm intrigued, tell me more about that girl. What do you know about her? How many kids does she have, does she like cats, is she leftist, baptist?
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  • A Letter to 6 year old Aisha.
     Reply #59 - February 03, 2013, 06:54 AM
    ^She's married to her cousin Billy Bob, they have nine children, and live on a farm in west Mississippi. They're devout Southern Baptists, card-carrying NRA members and registered Republicans. Oh, and Mary Lou believes cats are in cahoots with the devil. 
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