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OP - March 01, 2013, 02:51 PM

I thought these two pieces talking about Krauss, what science is, philosophy is and if they conflict was pretty illuminating on this whole philosophy of science, science and philosophy "conflict"

http://www.pausetowonder.org/2013/02/20/philosophy-versus-science-a-fight-where-we-all-lose/

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/02/26/i-can-defend-both-lawrence-krauss-and-philosophy/

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #1 - March 04, 2013, 03:58 PM

Enlightening stuff mate.
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Reply #2 - March 07, 2013, 01:17 PM

why I'm no big fan of philosophy and thinks it's severely limited and has many flaws.

- philosophy doesn't provide objective demonstrable facts about the natural world. It attempts to talks things into existence with recrementitious verbosity

- philosophy works on a self serving process of circular conjecture.

- philosophy asked questions based on layers and layers of assumptions. It's ask what the purpose/meaning of life is, without even objectively demonstrating that there's an intrinsic purpose/meaning to life.

- It's bulding a house on sound, arguements are formed without objective solid foundations and non-sequitors.
Ie "you can't have objective morality without god" <<<<< a fully loaded paradoxical statement as it hasn't yet been "objectively" proved that god exists.

- It's the mental masturbation of thinking of big words to describe thinking about erm... thinking

- philosophy downfall began the day "natural philosophy" started to be called science.

- it allows people to pass themselves of as top level serious intellectuals, whilst requiring no technical skills. All you need is good rhetoric and a good vocabulary helps.
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Reply #3 - March 07, 2013, 09:50 PM

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A great many questions that people ask are not scientific; they can not be addressed scientifically. Is x/y/z wrong? How should we live? What is the nature of morality? Is anything necessarily existent? What can be known? Et cetera...

Philosophy is about rational speculation, which isn't at all a bad thing. It's complimentary to science. For the record, most (very likely) modern philosophers are atheists (scroll down a bit): http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl

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Reply #4 - March 10, 2013, 03:29 AM

Moral philosophy is what we have to work with when attempting to determine what is right and wrong.

But I think that is one of the very few practical branches of philosophy out there.

In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
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