I don't believe that and never stated that I did. Whose talking about poverty here? You're making it as if men feel like shit because they're not millionaires and this is on par with women who have body image issues.
I take back my facetious statement, and this is a more fruitful point I'm going to make.
(This is conjecture, I'm not saying it's conclusive;)
Societal pressures on men
What might those 'social expectations' be? Experts suggest that men feel pressure to appear strong in the face of adversity, and eschew weakness or vulnerability. The Hollywood vision of manhood is that of the strong, silent hero. Men don't moan or complain, and they certainly don't go to the doctor when they're feeling a bit down in the mouth.
That's backed up by statistics, which show that three-quarters of men who commit suicide have no contact with mental health specialists in the 12 months prior to their deaths.
And many men won't even talk about their problems to their friends. Men facing relationship problems, unemployment or family breakdown hit the bottle and slide slowly into depression without opening up to anyone.
As Dr Blumenthal states: "Women are more likely than men to have stronger social supports, to feel that their relationships are deterrents to committing suicide, and to seek psychiatric and medical intervention - these protective factors may contribute to their lower rate of completed suicide."
'Social expectations' also have men down as the main breadwinners, even in a jobs market where both partners are likely to work. That means unemployment may be easier to take for women, who can bolster their sense of self-worth by becoming housewives or homemakers.
On the other hand, men feel humiliated when they can't provide for their families, feeling they have nothing left to give. And instead of talking about it, they keep that sense of humiliation to themselves, with tragic consequences.http://him.uk.msn.com/health-and-fitness/why-do-men-commit-suicideAnd seeing as men have a disproportionate suicide rate, which has increased in the US and UK since the recession. I think that male identity around successfully ambitious, and being 'earners' is probably playing a role.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/health/us-suicide-rate-rose-during-recession-study-finds.html?_r=0http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/aug/14/rise-suicides-blamed-impact-recessionI think this is a serious problem, and I think cultural standards (promoted by media) play a role.
Poverty, unemployment, being a high school drop-out, etc; these are things that suck just as much for women. I have relatives overseas who are poor, it's just as crap for the females as it is for the males.
I don't think it's tied into female identity as much as it's tied in to male identity. Being a 'provider', 'powerful' and 'ambitious' is a part of male identity.
Men are ridiculed a lot for 'living in their moms basement', or shamed for being unemployed. Like the article pointed out (and the Samaritans are doing research into) societal expectations do impact men's psychological health.
OTOH, have you ever seen a teenage boy crying because he feels ugly? How many boys do you know who've struggled with eating disorders?
Like I said men have get objectified for different reasons. I've known boys get bullied because they aren't 'tough bad boys', I haven't seen them cry because they tend to cry alone.
Okay, so some study says that "bad boys" get laid more…and you're bitter?
Lol, I knew someone was going to bring that up. A man can't complain about women's standards without being called bitter or pathetic.
For the record, I've honestly never given a shit that women like bad boys.
I don't think the number of sex partners a person has says much about how attractive they are as a long-term partner or a potential parent.
I agree.
Some of the 'experts' say that girls will play around with bad boys, but settle down with good guys.
Men like to hear that as much as women like to here, men will play the field and then settle down with you.
So now men commit crime because they reckon it'll help them get laid and we have the feminists and dirty money-grubbing whores (aka women) to blame for that.
No, please read my previous post to peppermint.
Did you ever consider that confidence might be a factor? Psychopaths and people with "dark triad" personality traits are usually quite confident hence actually *approach* women.
I've no doubt confidence is part. But again that's part. Specifically some women say they like 'bad boys', not just 'confidence guys'.
I've read Twilight (I'm a teenage girl, don't judge me!) and don't quite see how Edward is a "bad boy". He was actually overly sentimental in a cheesy way IMO. He was obsessed with, and completely devoted to, Bella, which is why I think he appealed to girls. I also don't seem to recall there being any emphasis placed on his wealth, or social status, for that matter. He was a 117-year-old vampire FFS. It was always "aww, he loves Bella sooo much. How romantic. How cute! *squeal*".
Like I said that was based on what I heard. Ie. he's and his crew are bad boys to others but are sweet to the girl. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I never said their was anything about social status and wealth in that book.
As Joe Rogan pointed out that's actually fucked up. Why would 117 yr old man be interested in a 17 year old, how the fuck could they relate psychologically?
It's strange that teen girls like yourself are reading that and find it romantic rather than creepy. The dude is interested in high school girls and is 117 years old!
U mad?
Don't know much about 50 Shades but from what I do know, the main character isn't "bad" as such, outside of the kinky sexual stuff he's into.
My mum and wife laid out the story to me, my mum (she loved them) told me he was a psychologically controlling person who becomes kind by the end of the trilogy.
I call think he fits in the 'bad boy' category, controlling people aren't positive people to be in a relationship.
Topic: The Objectification Of Men In Media