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 Topic: Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]

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  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #60 - October 07, 2013, 09:01 PM

    It was a response to Ishina's 'darker, mature TV' point that preceded the Sopranas (though they are both extremely different genres).

    I'm not entirely sure how we get to cartoon character villains in American wrestling from The Sopranos. But I think your point is that there was a history of dark and mature themes on screen before The Sopranos and that The Sopranos was not the first.

    Bear in mind we're talking about primetime TV drama here. Whatever happens in American wrestling is in an entirely different and irrelevant realm of entertainment. Showrunners were just not willing to gamble on controversial themes or a bad guy protagonist/leading characters in TV dramas before The Sopranos. Before that, criminals were just bit-part antagonists to some formulaic crime story arc involving good guys as the protagonists. The standard format for serialised drama was also self-contained episodes, a different story each week with the characters basically acting the same each week. There was never the kind of long-running character development that we see now.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #61 - October 07, 2013, 10:11 PM

    Just watched the first half of the opening episode, gonna watch rest tomorrow and report, suffice to say for now, in one scene Hank is watching the news about his stations drugs bust, Walt in dire needs of funds, look longily as the news reporters film the bundles of dollar notes, which leads to a request for a ride-along to hank's next bust and hank responding with famous last words - 'I'll take you on a ride along'.

    I suppose it was the money shot that did it.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #62 - October 08, 2013, 11:05 AM

    ishina, even though a large chunk of watching good drama phase of life was spent elsewhere, you do give food for thought.

    You say it was the first time a villain was lead/character but when was there a drama of similar sorts that the good guy was lead/character? bad guys have always made good drama.

    In my limited opinion it was a move from big screen to t.v screen, similar amounts of money being spent, meant better quality dramas.

    You make other good points. I would like to add that Quentin Tarantino (to my knowledge, there might be someone obscure, or such a visionary that he was too early early)who added dimensions to bit-part gangsters.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #63 - October 08, 2013, 11:19 AM

    In my limited opinion it was a move from big screen to t.v screen, similar amounts of money being spent, meant better quality dramas.

    And you can thank shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, and now Breaking Bad, for that.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #64 - October 08, 2013, 03:28 PM

    And you can thank shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, and now Breaking Bad, for that.


    Chicken and Egg? Movie giants want same old same old. New upstarts/startups in TV land want flagship dramas.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #65 - October 08, 2013, 05:39 PM

    BB. Season One. Episode One.

    We are introduced to Walter White, a mild-mannered chemistry teacher on his 50th birthday, on the day he realises that the doctor has given him two years to live (which was prescient to say the least, as he dies on his 52nd birthday).

    Life has passed Walter White by, eking out extra money, working for Bogdan and his eyebrows at the Car Wash, putting up with disinterested kids at school who he can't inspire in his lessons and take great pride in mocking him at any opportunity. Mundane, domesticated and poverty is a constant caller.

    His sex life is kaput, his kid (Flynn)suffering from (?) and has to walk around crutches, his previous success as a Nobel prize recipient seems so long, long ago. A brilliant mind, crippled by his day to day routine.

    His chance to live rather than exist transpires on the day he is told he is going to die.

    Flynn : How does it feel to be old?
    Walt : How does it feel to be a smartarse?
    Flynn : Good.

    Walt has two years to make good. he spots his chance early, the larger-than-life Hank, his brother-in-law married to Marie, the sister of his wife Skylar, works for the DEA.

    Walt loses his second job. Hank offers him a ride on his drug-bust. (Walt is shown being allergic to handling guns) During the bust, whilst Hank and the DEA mice are away, Walt spots Jesse, a former pupil, jumping from the neighbouring house, a woman with a fine pair of tits (though I thought this was a nod towards Walt and Jesse acting like a pair of tits on their first cook), the only nudity (iirc) in 62 episodes. Though, credit where credit is due, he did include a wanking scene (undercovers) performed on him by his wife (and later on in the series marie performs similar on Hank?).

    Walt realises he can for the first time in many, blackmail Jesse Pinkman into setting up a crystal meth producing and selling enterprise. Jesse is amused but yet to become abused.

    Jesse (talking about cooking meth): This isn't chemistry. This is art. Cooking is art.

    In Walt, Jesse finds the greatest artist of all time. They bicker like an old married couple.

    Walt : You are a drug dealer. Negotiate.

    Walt : I am awake.

    Jesse has the habit of finding trouble very quickly, this time in the form of two hoodlums, after the boom crystal meth, things go awry, matters reach life and death and Walt's knowledge of chemistry enables him to fight for another day, now with two possible dead bodies to get rid off.

    Ahh, but sirens blaring, two bodies in the RV used for the cook, him with no trousers, Walt makes a short video to his family, says sorry and tries to kill himself (this cycle happens quite a bit in the series). The gun jams. The series continues.


    Wish I had shazaam, would have zapped the app for about three tunes, especially the reggae one. Opening scenes - the natural background sound that plays heavy throughout, the new mexico scenery - superb.

    Jesse (to walt) : You are a goddamn artist.



    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #66 - October 08, 2013, 06:03 PM

    Chicken and Egg? Movie giants want same old same old. New upstarts/startups in TV land want flagship dramas.

    No, seriously, The Sopranos was a game changer. This is a new generation of TV drama you are watching now.

    There are no upstarts/startups in TV land. Pretty much all networks are subsidiaries of major media corporations that have been around for decades. AMC (the network that ran Breaking Bad) has been around since the 80s and were doing movies and documentaries previously, only starting to run original TV dramas early mid 00s.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #67 - October 09, 2013, 09:16 PM

    My 'synopsis' of the first episode was interrupted in the middle with a phone call, could have stopped but the phone call meant that I knew that that would be my last post yesterday. Instead of crippled mind I would have written institutionalised mind. Plus the handjob performed on Walt by Skylar (his wife) needed context, basically sex life kaput...birthday...helping hand...walt not so interested and now more context, the last scene of the episode that Walt Wakes Up, is him giving his mrs ten-years worth.

    Skylar (feeling walt jnr -not Flynn, nudging the small of her back) - Walt. Is that you?

    Classic

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #68 - October 09, 2013, 09:24 PM

    No one mentions the periodic table, used to good affect/effect on the opening credits. I know its very Big Bang Theory printed on Leonards t-shirt and Sheldon's/Leonard's shower curtain, I have fond memories of the Periodic Table. I enjoyed chemistry. Did a frickin A-level in it. Got a B.

    Shut your ears lol over 18 only

    My Swedish girlfriend demanded lot in the bedroom, I am not moving in with you if it is not four times a day, I was new to the game, to stop the prematureness, I had a mental list in my head, the periodic table elements, the states of America, the constituents of the USSR, the characteristics of life, the stations along the northern line, both branches top to bottom, American presidents...you get the picture.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #69 - October 09, 2013, 09:33 PM

    No, seriously, The Sopranos was a game changer. This is a new generation of TV drama you are watching now.


    That is a big big-up. Game changer, you mean like the Sri Lankan teams tactic of hitting out in the first fifteen overs of a 50 overs match rather than consolidating and getting rid of the new ball, that changed batting forever in the limited overs game? That much of a game-changer.

    perhaps I should hold my tongue till I have watched it. I know that it along with True Blood has the coolest opening credits (course magnum, A-team, Hawaii five-o, airwolf, knight rider are a class apart lol) but in reality he is a mobster and if you are a fan of Goodfellas/Casino/Untouchables/et al the bad boy gangster has been done, what is new is giving him a shrink to go and see (from my limited knowledge), again idk, but he must have inherited the position of 'capo' is it (Godfather - top of the list of famous films not been seen by moi) anyways I stop here, I will watch it, then we talk.

    Quote
    There are no upstarts/startups in TV land. Pretty much all networks are subsidiaries of major media corporations that have been around for decades. AMC (the network that ran Breaking Bad) has been around since the 80s and were doing movies and documentaries previously, only starting to run original TV dramas early mid 00s.


    All my information about upstarts/startups was gleaned form the esquire article talking to Vince Gilligan, mind you that does not mean The Sopranos was a part of this.



    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #70 - October 09, 2013, 09:42 PM

    And you can thank shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under, and now Breaking Bad, for that.


    I know the post is old but it need comment again. When I first read that post, the 'you' sounded fresh bordering on rude, then I thought I do that all the fucking time. Sorry to anyone/everyone.

    I did it to minimow about his mum/my mum, sometimes I say you when I mean me or us at the most. Please remember that.

    I should have learnt my lesson not to say that when at the age of twelve/thirteen I said to my best friend, you can't imagine your parents having sex together...he got angry..quickly said that I meant everyone's parents, everyone most likely than not could not imagine parents having sex.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #71 - October 09, 2013, 09:47 PM

    Your posts are barely comprehensible. Reading them is becoming a chore.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #72 - October 09, 2013, 09:57 PM

    Lol - from now on I will post posts directed at you pre-watershed i.e daytime.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #73 - October 10, 2013, 03:11 PM

    https://vimeo.com/76287333

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #74 - October 10, 2013, 11:53 PM

    Your posts are barely comprehensible. Reading them is becoming a chore.


    I am sorry for being brusque with you yesterday. In reality I should have posted first in this thread and not at the end of a one hour stint. Though I don't know if that would have mattered. I get all mumbly, go off on tangents, lose focus because I am talking to you. Lol perhaps because you have streaks of Tigress(old time poster nemesis)in you, (boy did she know her boxing)and it makes me -'I cant think of a suitable adjective'

    and it is a topic that is abundantly clear is very dear to your heart, even more reason to tread carefully - hoping you keep your sword sheathed. But like a kid I can't help but taunt/tease/niggle.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #75 - October 15, 2013, 12:10 AM

    It's just difficult to know what parts are addressed to me and what parts are you just typing out your stream of consciousness at that moment in time. It's mostly, literally, tl;dr. But when I occasionally do read them, there is some interesting stuff there. It's just navigating the other stuff that's time consuming, and so sometimes i don;t even bother. Ya get me? I'm not trying to be nasty. Just straight up. Tell me to mind my own fucking business if ya like.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Breaking Bad - Final season [SPOILERS - Read at your own risk]
     Reply #76 - October 15, 2013, 12:17 AM

    Ishina

    had to look up what tl;dr meant. Tell me about it, I forget when posting to you that you are not the hoi polloi (no one is on this forum) and I don't have to include everything but the kitchen sink to make a point. Advice taken. it would never occur to me to tell you to mind your own business in a million years.

    I thought perhaps you missed my weekly bulletin from New Mexico. The post is delayed. Tomorrow.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
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