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 Topic: UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?

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  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #60 - February 20, 2014, 04:00 AM

    You're both wrong.

    I wasn't being serious.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #61 - February 20, 2014, 04:31 AM

     Cheesy In any case you're both wrong.
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #62 - February 20, 2014, 08:38 PM

    Where immigration is concerned, do people think that we can go on forever taking in hundreds of thousands of people, when do we reach a point when it's enough?
    Because there has to be a point when we can take not many more.


    Your stating the obvious there but currently our net migration is not as high as some of the other wealthy countries in the EU like Germany, France & Spain so what's the problem? Do you also complain about Brits that emigrate to places like Spain, Australia or Dubai ? Why is your focus only on immigration & not emigration? You could, for example, be encouraging more to emigrate if you're concerned about space or population density. Are you doing that? If not that would suggest to me that the basis of your arguments are primarily xenophobic- dislike or even hatred of those that are not like you here in the UK.

    I voted no to the common market in the 70s because I have always thought that we have more ties with the commonwealth than with Europe. The EU forced us to abandon our commonwealth friends.


    Glad to hear that your OK with the Commonwealth. That would make sense since we do owe those nations a debt of gratitude at the very least for exploiting their resources and slave labour in previous centuries. Our current wealth was built on the back of that exploitation.
    http://commonwealth-opinion.blogs.sas.ac.uk/2013/reparations-for-slavery-can-a-claim-be-sustained/

    People are often telling me that immigrants do jobs that the English are too lazy to do and this is such a fallacy, would you pick cabbages for 5 quid an hour, for a 10 hour day, no, only someone desperate would work for that, I've worked on farms and it is back breaking work and it's better done by a machine.
    They say, oh the NHS would collapse, no it would not if only we would spend the money on training Brits, no we save money by poaching the Doctors and nurses from other countries.
    In a way depriving those countries of their investment.


    In the case of farm work or cabbage picking I can only assume it would be economically less viable to use machines so a win situation for the farmer and a win situation for the picker as he's earning money for a hard day's work which he is more than prepared to do.
    Regarding the NHS, it probably wouldn't collapse if they spent the time & resources encouraging, investing and training Brits but patient care would suffer in the short term. Immigrants tend to fill SHORTAGES in employment areas of the economy where indigenous brits often do not want to do those jobs for whatever reason- that's one of the prime reasons why the shortages exist in the first place and not just because employers don't want to train. 

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #63 - February 20, 2014, 10:25 PM

    The US actually has protectionist measures that prevent too many immigrants from becoming doctors here.  I'm not for the policy, but the AMA heavily backs it.
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #64 - February 20, 2014, 10:26 PM

    Wow, I didn't know that. Any links on it?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #65 - February 20, 2014, 10:31 PM

    Talking to me?
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #66 - February 20, 2014, 10:34 PM

    Yup. If I don't quote someone specifically then I'm talking to the last poster.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #67 - February 20, 2014, 10:42 PM

    I don't have any sources off hand, I'll ask my brother, who's going into medical school, so he knows about this stuff more than me.
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #68 - February 20, 2014, 10:45 PM

    Ta.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #69 - February 20, 2014, 10:51 PM

    Ta?
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #70 - February 20, 2014, 11:05 PM

    Thank you.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • UK Independence Party......... UKIP interesting 3rd party in UK?
     Reply #71 - February 20, 2014, 11:11 PM

    Oh, okay.  Sorry Tongue
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