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  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #30 - March 16, 2015, 04:23 AM
    Quote from: Jedi on March 15, 2015, 09:19 PM
    At least they have HAYYA


    They are currently asking for volunteers to become the 'free-mixing police' for the forum
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #31 - March 16, 2015, 04:40 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:03 AM
    actually I used to say salalhualayhiwasalam everytime I said or even heard his name.

    And she agreed that he was the most beloved person to her.

    I was also adhering to ahlul-hadeeth sect at the time, I got her to follow the beliefs of this sect and leave the softer sufi version she grew up in. 

    Hmmm,, ahlul-hadeeth sect??., I hope you didn't move from ahlul-hadeeth sect to some Sufi order and your wife stuck to  some ahlul-hadeeth  preacher because of you...   lol...


    so out of this list of ahlul-hadeeth preacher,  who was your favorite??

    Dr. Zakir Naik
    Sheikh Tousif ur-Rahman
    Abdul Rahman al-Sudais
    Anees Khan Salafi
    Sheikh Jalaluddin Qasmi
    Dr. Israr Ahmed  ..dead??
    Ahmed Deedat  dead??
    Shaik Abu Zaid Zameer
    Ustadh Nouman Ali Khan  Zombi??
    Mufti Ismael Menk Actor?

    who was your favorite guy khan0987866?
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #32 - March 16, 2015, 04:47 AM
    Sheikh Tousif ur-Rahman and not because he looked like mr bean. He seemed to be the most sincere. He has been to my local mosque a few times but couldn't be bothered going there just to meet him.

    Ahmed Deedat wasn't an ahlul hadeeth preacher, he was quite close to Tahir Ul Qadri from what I remember, I did like Deedat though.

    Dr Naik doesn't seem very intellectual to me and his kids rapping on his channel was just odd, maybe he wants them to be famous.

    Ustad Nouman Ali Khan, I like his Surname, but his voice is soooo boring.
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #33 - March 16, 2015, 10:11 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 02:17 PM
    I have been a member of the forum before but don't have that email address or password. So asked if I could make a new username and start fresh, the admins allowed me to do that, thankfully.

    Here is my last username here http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27628.0


    Quote from: toor on March 15, 2015, 06:12 PM
    I don't believe you were ever unbanned. Why are you here, again?


    Why did you ignore toor's question, khan? He is right, your claim that you asked the admins to sign up again, and that the admins allowed you is false.

    You were banned for a reason. Here's a little reminder: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27797.0

    Now, until you give us a very good reason why we shouldn't ban you again for creating a sock-puppet account, you are restricted to only posting in threads you have started.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #34 - March 16, 2015, 11:01 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:16 AM
    I remember when you went back on that forum after a long-time and Abu M and the dolts laughed at you and insulted you; you were nothing but polite, it's just because you don't believe in there religion any more, I suppose they are scared of you, so much so that they don't believe you ever were a Muslim. You may not remember that happening but I do.


    Yes I do remember that lol - I foolishly thought I could reason with them.

    I agree with you that leaving Islam is a very traumatic process - and I'm not talking about the threats from others - I'm talking about one's own internal psychological battle to deal with the mindset that has set deep roots in a persons whole psyche since they were little and unable to judge & compare what they were told with anything else.

    It can be a really hard to-and-fro battle. Not, perhaps for everyone - but I can certainly relate and am inclined to cut people more slack because of it.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #35 - March 16, 2015, 04:40 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on March 16, 2015, 10:11 AM
    Why did you ignore toor's question, khan? He is right, your claim that you asked the admins to sign up again, and that the admins allowed you is false.

    You were banned for a reason. Here's a little reminder: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27797.0

    Now, until you give us a very good reason why we shouldn't ban you again for creating a sock-puppet account, you are restricted to only posting in threads you have started.




    I messaged the admins before they manually accepted my account, I assumed that they read my message before they validated my account.

    I am allowed to give my viewpoint and did so in that thread, it's free speech.

    If you want to ban me just like Ummah Forum, that's okay.

    But I made this account as I don't have my old login details and the reason I wanted to come back is because I have nowhere else I can discuss Islam with like minded people.

    The ball is in your court, you decide if you will ban my account or unrestrict it to how it was.  thnkyu
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #36 - March 16, 2015, 04:44 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 16, 2015, 11:01 AM
    Yes I do remember that lol - I foolishly thought I could reason with them.

    I agree with you that leaving Islam is a very traumatic process - and I'm not talking about the threats from others - I'm talking about one's own internal psychological battle to deal with the mindset that has set deep roots in a persons whole psyche since they were little and unable to judge & compare what they were told with anything else.

    It can be a really hard to-and-fro battle. Not, perhaps for everyone - but I can certainly relate and am inclined to cut people more slack because of it.


    Some people don't like reason, here is one of my posts, http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?435889-Would-we-cease-to-exist&p=6376765&viewfull=1#post6376765

    perfectly acceptable question, but they just wanted to insult me
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #37 - March 16, 2015, 04:53 PM
    Here is a copy of the thread I made before it was deleted and I was banned from Ummah Forum, tell me if you think I should have been banned for it ?

    "I tried to believe in God, I really really did. I'd pray, give zakat, fast etc but to no avail.
    I think I am very brave to leave Islam, so many of you have split personalities thanks to it, I think religion does poison everything. Islam was spread by the sword, all religions are made by people.


    I am brave enough to use my mind rather than rely on an ancient book that is full of ancient myths and fairy-tales. The bible, the Quran, book of mormon or whatever is the same as harry potter, a book of fictional tales. Some of you know this is true but are too weak to follow your mind and wanted follow ancient fairy tales, fine.


    I have been running from myself. I am atheist, it's weird to say.


    Before you start with your threats of your non-existant hell, realise that, it's non-existant, the same as your jannah with full breasted hoors, rivers of wine and whatever else Muhammad would have liked. This mammals betrothal to a 6 year old does sicken me, but worse is that you justify it. His killing of safiyahs husband and then sleeping with her on the same night also disgusts me. He was a violent man who married a child, you may think that's perfection but I certainly do not.


    If one day you meet this God, you can ask him why he made my life miserable, why he gave me constant miscarriages and why his book was so incoherent. You can also ask santa clause and the easter bunny these things; as they are as real as He. Isn't that strange a genderless god, you call He, maybe because it was invented by a man.


    Anyway, I guess that's farewell from me.


    Atheist and proud, Ex-Muslim.


    And the reason you hate me after reading that is because your religion teaches you to hate, but remember I don't hate you. Religion is for the weak minded, for people to be controlled.


    My time on earth is limited and refuse to waste my precious time worshipping a God who was never there.


    If you have definitive proof of your religion, then feel free to enlighten me. I am always open to the truth. If you can convince me of the truth of Islam, no doubt I will embrace it. But I have not seen truth in it.


    Sorry if my post offends you but it is what it is."
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #38 - March 16, 2015, 05:35 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:53 PM
    tell me if you think I should have been banned for it ?


    People are banned on ummah.com for a lot less than that.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #39 - March 16, 2015, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 01:52 PM
    I joined the forum, didn't get the answers I wanted. So made a thread that I want to leave Islam; they banned my account and there members just sent me a load of threats about hell and just random insults; even though before that thread they were all very nice to me. That's how I ended up here.

    What are your thoughts of Ummah Forum ?

    I was a devoted member of that forum many a year ago. As my doubts and misgivings grew, however, I turned to help from a chap on there called cosmicdancer (aka Hassan).

    In 2008 I officially declared my apostasy from Islam. My thread received the sorts of reactions you mentioned, as well as accusations of sowing the seeds of fitnah. The thing that actually hurt was some women on there expressing sadness at my 'choice'.

    At any rate, I had declared the ultimate blasphemy: I didn't believe in allah. However, it was only when I questioned Muhammad's sanctioning of execution for apostates that my thread was locked, deleted shortly thereafter, and warning points awarded to me for 'trolling'.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #40 - March 16, 2015, 06:01 PM
    Gosh the conversations on that forum are incredibly dull...

    edit: well I've not looked properly, must take a nosey, I've forgot my old username
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #41 - March 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
    Quote from: Kodanshi on March 16, 2015, 05:52 PM
    I was a devoted member of that forum many a year ago. As my doubts and misgivings grew, however, I turned to help from a chap on there called cosmicdancer (aka Hassan).

    In 2008 I officially declared my apostasy from Islam. My thread received the sorts of reactions you mentioned, as well as accusations of sowing the seeds of fitnah. The thing that actually hurt was some women on there expressing sadness at my 'choice'.

    At any rate, I had declared the ultimate blasphemy: I didn't believe in allah. However, it was only when I questioned Muhammad's sanctioning of execution for apostates that my thread was locked, deleted shortly thereafter, and warning points awarded to me for 'trolling'.


    I hated the system of "neg reps" as it was a way of bullying people to conform or shut up.

    Ahhh... the good old days eh Kodanshi lol
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #42 - March 16, 2015, 06:19 PM
    Aye, 'glory days', as The Boss might have put it Wink.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #43 - March 16, 2015, 07:58 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:23 AM
    They are currently asking for volunteers to become the 'free-mixing police' for the forum



    I'm busy keeping the perverted rampant infidels apart on CEMB.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #44 - March 16, 2015, 08:44 PM
    Quote
    Ummah Forum.....


    Screw them.. Mock the rascals  every day .... UNTIL THEY JOIN CEMB forum
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #45 - March 17, 2015, 01:56 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 16, 2015, 06:10 PM
    I hated the system of "neg reps" as it was a way of bullying people to conform or shut up.

    Ahhh... the good old days eh Kodanshi lol


    You can have the approach of looking at a glass as half empty or half full.

    At least you can recognise some of the nuttiest members  Nude nerd as they will have a 'higher' rep and the ones that are in the negative usually use there mind to think for themselves  pccoffee.

    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #46 - March 17, 2015, 02:29 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:53 PM
    Here is a copy of the thread I made before it was deleted and I was banned from Ummah Forum, tell me if you think I should have been banned for it ?

    Honestly it's their forum, they can ban who they like. It isn't a forum set up for free thinking or individuality, but conformity and exclusion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8SqPm0o3s
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #47 - March 18, 2015, 04:44 AM
    There is no point really being a member of the forum if i can only post in the 2 threads i created
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #48 - March 18, 2015, 06:50 AM
    You were banned last time for good reason. You broke the rules, which are clearly stated. Right now you're simply restricted. Talk to the mods/admins. And maybe apologise to Cornflower.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #49 - March 18, 2015, 08:59 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 16, 2015, 04:40 PM
    I messaged the admins before they manually accepted my account, I assumed that they read my message before they validated my account.

    I am allowed to give my viewpoint and did so in that thread, it's free speech.

    If you want to ban me just like Ummah Forum, that's okay.

    But I made this account as I don't have my old login details and the reason I wanted to come back is because I have nowhere else I can discuss Islam with like minded people.

    The ball is in your court, you decide if you will ban my account or unrestrict it to how it was.  thnkyu


    You were indeed banned for a reason. We have rules here, and we all abide by them. You did e-mail the admin account saying you "lost your username and password" which is a bit funny because even if you still remembered them, you would not have been able to access the forum because you were, you know, banned? However you failed to mention who you were in that e-mail, and when you registered again your account was approved because, again, it didn't match that of your previous incarnation. So you basically created a sock puppet (after, I assume, reading the rule concerning such behaviour) and thought you would get away with it.

    The ball is indeed in our court and we are still deciding what needs to be done. But if being restricted is inconvenient to you, feel free to stop logging in.

    Have a nice day.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #50 - March 19, 2015, 05:01 AM
    I renounce the shaytaan that is amongst the jinn and mankind. I leave kufr for the guidance of Islam. I repent of every bad thing I ever said about Islam. I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. May Allah keep me safe from the workers of iniquity and forgive my sins.

    Feel free to ban me from the forum now.

    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #51 - March 19, 2015, 05:48 AM
     Roll Eyes
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #52 - March 19, 2015, 07:21 AM
     Cheesy
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #53 - March 19, 2015, 01:12 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 19, 2015, 05:01 AM
    I renounce the shaytaan that is amongst the jinn and mankind. I leave kufr for the guidance of Islam. I repent of every bad thing I ever said about Islam. I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. May Allah keep me safe from the workers of iniquity and forgive my sins.

    Feel free to ban me from the forum now.




    Being Muslim wouldn't be something they'd ban you for here, fyi.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #54 - March 23, 2015, 12:26 AM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 19, 2015, 05:01 AM
    I renounce the shaytaan that is amongst the jinn and mankind. I leave kufr for the guidance of Islam. I repent of every bad thing I ever said about Islam. I bear witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. May Allah keep me safe from the workers of iniquity and forgive my sins.

    Feel free to ban me from the forum now.




    that was quick lol
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #55 - March 23, 2015, 11:16 AM
    Dear Khan,

    Perhaps at this point it's worth considering, regardless of an online forums content, be it pro religious or irreligious you may not find the help you seek.

    DT
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