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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #120 - May 10, 2015, 12:13 AM

    I know full well that the Tories and their supporters in the media demonised the SNP.  My point was already spelled out in plain English - those in this thread who are blaming Scottish voters or the SNP for this result are barking up the wrong tree.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #121 - May 10, 2015, 12:50 AM

    Given that I voted Labour...no.

    I just hope that the Conservative majority vote no to a potential EU referendum. However, because DC has a small majority the whips and bankbenchers have the real power.


    The conservatives are going to deliver this referendum.  They have to. It was a promise in their manifesto. I expect that all the parties will split into yes/ no camps and they'll argue accordingly. Cameron will attempt to get some concessions, and the referendum will be held to get the favourable bounce from that. He has a problem if he doesn't get any concessions. At that point he may well end up as the Prime Minister that took the UK out of Europe and Scotland out of the UK.

    I'm hoping it happens. Much hilarity.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #122 - May 10, 2015, 01:39 AM

    Are you serious ?
    It was 'a promise in their manifesto' last time that there would be no top down reorganisation of the NHS and one of the first things they did was set about dismantling it
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #123 - May 10, 2015, 01:50 AM

    Question to all of you guys who voted/participated/campaigned in these elections..

    Did Mullah Islam/Baboon Islam /Islamophobia of certain groups in UK ... did it effect the election results? 

     Or did that The UK  govt  not joining / no plans to adopt that  euro, or to replace its currency did it effect  the poll results?


       Not really  .I think there were a handful of constituencies where the choice of candidate was influenced by ethnicity , but as far as I know there hasn't really been the kind of toxic fundie politicking we've seen in Tower Hamlets. Except of course for Bradford West , where the populace inexplicably declined to rise for George the lion (the only bit of light relief all night)
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #124 - May 10, 2015, 02:12 AM

      On the Scottish issue -

       Throughout my lifetime people on the left have faced a dilemma of whether to support fringe 'purist' socialist groups with no realistic chance of ever attaining any power or even influence , or whether to trust in the Labour party , who have a long history of failing/ being unable to deliver on their promises.
     All my life we've complained that the Labour Party aren't 'left' enough , all the main parties are the same etc. Some of this might have been youthful naivety but with the advent of 'new' labour and the increasing growth of a professional political class and the reliance on special advisors ,consultants, polls etc. it's never been more true.
      What's changed is that the SNP have offered people a real alternative.
     When I was young they were mainly a party of tories and land owners , with  a narrow minded nationalism their only cause.
    The oil years gave them a bit of a boost as it made independence seem more viable , but a lot of people were actually put off by the selfish mind set of the "it's oor oil" years.
      In recent years they've moved progressively leftwards and the referendum energised people and showed that politics can actually make a difference to people's lives.
      You can't blame Scotland for the fact that large sections of the british population have become so ground down and lacking in belief and hope that they're prepared to allow a bunch of entitled, money grabbing knobs to carry on bleeding the country dry and wrecking what's left of the welfare state
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #125 - May 10, 2015, 08:03 AM

    To be fair Labour started off the privatisation with PFIs and stuff, in schools too. Its simply the case that the state either cannot afford all the NHS offers, or need to increase tax. Given people don't want to pay more tax I vote for non-urgent stuff to be taken off NHS, stuff like IVF, etc.


    I never said the Labour si off the hook...that's why I specifically wrote 'increasingly privatised'...and IVF isn't something I'd consider non-urgent. Wanting to be able to conceive a child isn't something I'd consider non-urgent stuff.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #126 - May 10, 2015, 08:12 AM

    Are you serious ?
    It was 'a promise in their manifesto' last time that there would be no top down reorganisation of the NHS and one of the first things they did was set about dismantling it


    Also consider the massive strides that UKIP has made. 12% of the electorate (those who bothered to vote) is not something you can ignore. An EU referendum is likely.  I'm hopeful that given how much the UK economy is invested in Europe that the Tories will vote no to pulling out of Europe but I fear the average person will vote yes given how poorly voter turnout  is in referendums and how poorly EU politics is represented in the UK. The 'Let's get out' mob may be galvanised to take Britain out and apathy shall prevail for the rest.

    Scotland is partially to blame. What do they hope to gain from this? We shall see.  It's a dangerous game Sturgeon is playing. It was nothing but silly nationalism that stirred the crowds. How very uncivilised.

    I bet that most people didn't vote Labour because of Ed. Silly that politics has become slightly more Americanised in that you vote for the personality/character than what's good for both the pwople and country.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #127 - May 10, 2015, 11:14 AM

    Rob and Jedi:

    I'm totally with you in everything you say about everything, particularly Scotland.

     As long as 100 of us remain alive, we shall never be subject to English dominion. For it is not for the English, Welsh and Irish downtrodden, for anti-austerity, for a more progressive government, nor for EU membership that we fight: but for freedom alone. Which no worthy Scot gives up without his life.

    Hi
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #128 - May 10, 2015, 11:19 AM



    Unity over division!

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #129 - May 10, 2015, 11:21 AM

    Anyway my work colleague sent me this:

    The UK Election 2015 explained for GoT frans:

    The wildlings voted for the SNP whilst the South thought that King Joffrey was doing such a splendid job they decided to keep him for 5 more years. Meanwhile, the North (East) remembers!

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #130 - May 10, 2015, 11:54 AM

    Lol  Smiley

    Hi
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #131 - May 10, 2015, 12:14 PM

    Wanting to be able to conceive a child isn't something I'd consider non-urgent stuff.

    Is child-bearing really a human right? Or one of the many things in life that are granted to some, but not to others?

    This election has made me realise how badly people in Britain need to get real. You are immensely privileged. This privilege is not a right, and is not guaranteed to last.

    Is spending money on free IVF really the best way of ensuring the survival of an NHS at the end of a cycle of opulence?

    In Japan, incidentally, parents pay through the nose merely to have a baby delivered. There's no question of free IVF. I'd say the Japanese have it half wrong.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #132 - May 10, 2015, 12:35 PM

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    Is child-bearing really a human right? Or one of the many things in life that are granted to some, but not to others?

    This election has made me realise how badly people in Britain need to get real. You are immensely privileged. This privilege is not a right, and is not guaranteed to last.


    You've jumped from A to B. Having a child is not a human right and I did not state that. I stated that it is not to be considered 'non-urgent stuff'. There are far more reasons why the NHS is in dissaray then people recieving IVF treatment. As someone with family and friends working in the NHS, having used the NHS, having educated msyelf on the history of the NHS and how government policies have affected it I think I am in the position to express my opinion on the centralisation and increasing privatisation of the NHS which is causing angst to patients, staff and pressure on management.

    'People in britain need to get real'? Well thank you sir for your informed wisdom. If you know anything the vast majority of people are passionate and love the NHS that is why we are hell bent of protecting it. Next time don't assume people are as ignorant as you.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #133 - May 10, 2015, 01:05 PM

    Rob and Jedi:

    I'm totally with you in everything you say about everything, particularly Scotland.

     As long as 100 of us remain alive, we shall never be subject to English dominion. For it is not for the English, Welsh and Irish downtrodden, for anti-austerity, for a more progressive government, nor for EU membership that we fight: but for freedom alone. Which no worthy Scot gives up without his life.


    haha comedy genius
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #134 - May 10, 2015, 04:50 PM

    Conservatives are 50% zionists (Cameron- Yes I am a zionists and proud of the fact)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXeJo5yb_dQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcgsbODkZoA

    http://www.jpost.com/International/Cameron-declares-himself-a-Zionist

     http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.654497l

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #135 - May 10, 2015, 05:27 PM

    George Galloway is part of the Reptillian shapeshifting Illuminati and he loves Jews and Jewry and Judaism and Israeli foreign policy.



    Naaaaah.... Tongue


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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #136 - May 10, 2015, 10:42 PM

    The Scots votes don't come into play in this,with perhaps the exception that it allowed Cameron to play the xenophobic card through Project Fear.
    It didn't matter how the Scots voted,and that has been true for decades. We understand this (at last) and so voted for those we believed would have our interests at heart.
    The maths show that even if every scot had voted labour it would have made no difference to the outcome.
    I think we got the best result in a shite election.

    According to the polls only 1.6 % of Americans are athiests. So what gives you the right to call the other 80% morons?'
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #137 - May 11, 2015, 06:26 AM

    @ Jedi , Musivore & Rob

      Sorry to be a killjoy but the reason the SNP have expanded their support so dramatically is precisely because they've moved away from all that 'wee bit hill and glen'  stuff and offered people a real alternative to both the vile govt. we currently have and the bland ,timorous mess the other main stream parties have morphed into.
         I think this result is a disaster for Britain , people on the left should be discussing how to respond , not whining about the scots  - you sound just like Galloway with his "vile racist Zionists " nonsense.
      For the past couple of decades a large section of the south east , even people who claim to believe in equality and the rest , have sat back and watched their wealth grow , mainly because of the ludicrous ( and corrosive ) spiralling of property prices , and profits from the selling off of our infrastructure. A lot of these people wring their hands publically at how awful it is whilst voting in the tories because they want it to continue. That's why the polls got it so wrong.
     And ,this has been pointed out  a few times already , but since some people seem to be having trouble grasping it ( It's not your fault. If you'd had the benefit of a superior Scottish education maybe you could cope with basic arithmetic) , so I'll say it again    -
                         LABOUR WOULD'NT HAVE WON EVEN IF THEY'D TAKEN EVERY SCOTTISH SEAT

       You can hardly blame the scots for getting sick of waiting for things to change and taking a way out when it's offered to them.
    I've lived in London for more than 30 years but the way things are going if Scotland does go for independence I'll be seriously tempted to go home.  and in a few years time when the NHS is gone , it costs a grand a week to rent a cupboard in Penge , and unemployed people have a choice between going on reality TV , queuing up outside sports direct at 4 a.m. to beg for a couple of hours work or eating out of bins , I'll look forward to seeing you all at the border crying and pleading to be let in
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #138 - May 11, 2015, 06:59 AM

    You've jumped from A to B. Having a child is not a human right and I did not state that. I stated that it is not to be considered 'non-urgent stuff'. There are far more reasons why the NHS is in dissaray then people recieving IVF treatment. As someone with family and friends working in the NHS, having used the NHS, having educated msyelf on the history of the NHS and how government policies have affected it I think I am in the position to express my opinion on the centralisation and increasing privatisation of the NHS which is causing angst to patients, staff and pressure on management.

    'People in britain need to get real'? Well thank you sir for your informed wisdom. If you know anything the vast majority of people are passionate and love the NHS that is why we are hell bent of protecting it. Next time don't assume people are as ignorant as you.

    Thanks for that, and the assumption that I have no family or friends who have worked in or (arf) used the NHS. I like you, but civility frequently eludes you. Shame.

    From senior physicians (via my Dad) I hear nothing but exasperation at the mushrooming bureaucracy that takes clinical decisions out of the hands of clinicians. Clinicians know that resources are finite and choices (sometimes of life and death) have to be made..

    And at the risk of rousing your condescending ire one again, people in Britain do need to get real. I have spent much of my life outside that charmed bubble. If you wish to retain the wonderful privileges you enjoy, accept that they are not inalienable rights and work out how best to preserve (and pay for) them. Free IVF doesn't make the cut. But then I am a heartless bastard. Not to mention ignorant.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #139 - May 11, 2015, 07:10 AM

    Where did I assume you did not have family and friends that work in the NHS? Stop overreacting.

    Your comments area silly. Civility eludes you? Please highlight the part in which I lost my civility.

    You are arguing against an argument no one made abut IVF. I stated its not to be considered 'no urgent stuff' that is its probably the most important thing to people unable to coceive but desire a family. That's it.

    As far as the heartless and ignorant comment. Gosh, we are overly dramatic.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #140 - May 11, 2015, 07:16 AM

    Sorry. Off to hammock with a beer.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #141 - May 11, 2015, 07:53 AM

    Scotland is partially to blame. What do they hope to gain from this? We shall see.  It's a dangerous game Sturgeon is playing. It was nothing but silly nationalism that stirred the crowds. How very uncivilised.


    Scotland isn't a monolith where every resident is a card carrying SNP member hell bent on breaking up the UK and neither are we incapable of putting some thought behind our decisions and actions, so less of the sweeping generalisations that those living in Scotland are brainwashed, silly and somehow infantile in our choices.

    The SNP has always supported independence for Scotland, so of course their ultimate aim is to see ...... an independent Scotland! They do have other policies as they not such a one dimensional political party, which is why they were elected twice in a row to form the Scottish government - first as a minority and second as a majority.

    The SNP wasn't the only political party to support independence for Scotland during the referendum - the Scottish Green Party, the Scottish Socialist Party, even an offshoot from the Labour Party - Labour for Independence, and lots of people who aren't affiliated to any specific group, various activist groups etc.

    The people who voted for and against independence had various (and sometimes complex) reasons, from one end of the spectrum to the other, like purely Scottish nationalism for independence at any cost to purely British nationalism against independence at any cost, with lots of nuances in between - principle of self determination like many other countries around the world, feeling that real positive progress would move at a snail's pace as long as Westminster held all the cards and purse strings, not caring much for the union as a concept but voting no as they were more worried about the economic and political implications of independence, or feeling more British rather than Scottish and wanting to stay part of the union and hoping that change can come from within etc.

    So politicians, celebrities and the media constantly said we should stay, we were valued in the democratic processes of the UK, we would get 'significant' devolved powers (whatever that means) etc. So 55% voted No for a plethora of reasons.

    However the behaviour of the Labour party historically as well as during the referendum has angered and disgusted many of their supporters. Most people have no confidence that Labour can actually represent and stand up for Scotland within the UK (or even ordinary people across the UK), as they seem to take Scottish Labour votes for granted and actually think they have some uncontested divine right to them - as opposed to actually having enough humility to realise that you need to earn votes not demand them.

    And it is this void that the SNP cleverly fills. It is a sad indictment for Labour when then SNP, which isn't really that much of a radical party compared to some others like the TUSC, appear to be more left wing than Labour!

    So if the Conservatives, Lib Dems, UKIP and Labour are unpalatable options for you, who do you choose to represent your constituency? If you are genuinely sick and tired of the way UK politics is going and want to see some real change in the political establishment, who can you actually vote for? It appeared to be either SNP or the Greens, hence the surge in votes for both of them.

    Then there was the growing hysteria from various political parties and media, as if democratically elected SNP MPs would descend onto England, raping, pillaging and leaving a trail of destruction. Nevermind the fact that SNP MPs have been elected to Westminster before and their position on independence was the same then as now. If the Scottish MPs were Labour or Conservative that would have been ok I suppose. As long as we keep our heads down and do as we're told.

    English votes for English laws? Last time I checked, Westminster was for the entire UK. And only the SNP have historically abstained from voting on English only issues, as a matter of party principle. None of the Scottish Labour and Scottish Conservatives did that though... probably because, you know, we're part of this Union people keep banging on about, or maybe they don't feel guilty or unprincipled about trying to have a say on English only issues, few as they may be. And given the current political structure of the UK, there are actually very few issues that are genuinely English only. Most issues have a knock on effect on other parts of the UK.

    Union politicians constantly talk about how bad and evil the SNP is, as if a party that talks about reducing austerity is infinitely worse than one that seeks to crush British people with cuts and reductions to social welfare.
    A party that has talked about reforming the election system, even though they might lose votes that way, you know, as a matter of principle, while the two biggest UK parties didn't want it because it suited them just fine all these years .... until now.

    There are things I disagree with when it comes to the SNP and their policies, but seeing the Union parties hoisted by their own petard with First Past the Post is delicious.
    And the fact that even if Scotland voted Labour, we'd still have a Tory government - which is what people in Scotland have been saying all along. At least now it is plain for everyone to see, even if they refuse to acknowledge it because it is easier pointing the finger at someone else.

    However, all of this is overshadowed by the fact that this is a dark time for the UK, and it pains me to see the election result and knowing we all have some very tough times ahead.

    Rant over. It's been building up for weeks, if not months Grin

  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #142 - May 11, 2015, 08:39 AM

    Where did I assume you did not have family and friends that work in the NHS? Stop overreacting.

    Your comments area silly. Civility eludes you? Please highlight the part in which I lost my civility.

    You are arguing against an argument no one made abut IVF. I stated its not to be considered 'no urgent stuff' that is its probably the most important thing to people unable to coceive but desire a family. That's it.

    As far as the heartless and ignorant comment. Gosh, we are overly dramatic.


    Jedi, this is just my opinion, but I'm often in agreement with your posts in one way or another and do enjoy them (although I haven't the slightest fucking idea what anyone is saying in this thread, so there's an exception), but I did also read your first reply to David where you said "As someone with family and friends working in the NHS, having used the NHS, having educated msyelf on the history of the NHS and how government policies have affected it I think I am in the position to express my opinion on the centralisation and increasing privatisation of the NHS which is causing angst to patients, staff and pressure on management" as you implying you were in a better (and different, obviously) position than he is to judge. If I totally misread that, my bad, but I can see why David did, too.

    And, Jedi, I do think you can have a certain insulting way of writing. And I know it's because a lot of the time, you're discussing something you're really passionate about, or defending something you really care about, and that's why I like you as a poster, but I wonder if we could keep this in mind? I'm usually not surprised to see people feel personally insulted by your replies to them.

    Am I the same way when I get passionate about something here? Eh, probably, (some here would say definitely), and I hope that when that happens someone points it out to me, so I'm gonna do the same here. Grin
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #143 - May 11, 2015, 09:17 AM

    Insulting someone and having an insulting way of writing are two different things.

    Implying something isn't the same. It's your subjective opinion. I can be matter of fact, which is true but I stated the facts. You did misread that.

    I think you saying you haven't the slightest f'in idea what anyone is saying can be implied as a personal attack. But I maturely ignore that as I don't think that's what you meant.

    If I want clarification I ask for and not assume which is what David and I called him out.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #144 - May 11, 2015, 09:36 AM

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    Implying something isn't the same. It's your subjective opinion. I can be matter of fact, which is true but I stated the facts. You did misread that...If I want clarification I ask for and not assume which is what David and I called him out.


    Sure, but you know, this is the internet, and sometimes we have to make concessions and realize that sometimes the way we've worded or phrased something may make it seem to others like we meant something else entirely. And sometimes it seems like you were clearly saying x even if you meant y, so one might not even think to ask for clarification.

    And that happens, and usually it's just a matter of clarifying what you said to resolve it, right? You can say that's not what you meant sans accusing the person who misunderstood you of overreacting, and that tends to keep things more calm, and it's an especially cool thing to do if more than one person could've made that mistake after reading your words. Do you know what I mean?

    And so I will practice it here with what you pointed out: saying I don't understand a single thing on this thread isn't for lack of quality content, but for the reader being your average American, who is lucky if they understand domestic politics and practically a unicorn if they understand foreign politics. Grin

    Quote
    Insulting someone and having an insulting way of writing are two different things.


    Of course, and it's a distinction I've also had to remind people of a few times on here (although I'm not mentioning this to you in isolation. I think both you and I know you've outright insulted members here before, but honestly, I didn't much care at the time because it was usually directed at people who were quite irking me, too, and I decided to be a little bit selfish). David doesn't want to mess with this anymore, clearly, but if I were to have responded to your question about where you stopped being civil, I think it might've been right here:

    Quote
    Well thank you sir for your informed wisdom...Next time don't assume people are as ignorant as you.


    And again, I'm not speaking as a mod or anything, this is just my opinion, but I've seen this happen more than once and it's always a shame to see two posters that you very much like have it out unnecessarily. If you see nothing at all to be improved, that's cool, do your thing, but like I said: sometimes I come out, guns blazing when they don't need to be, and I don't see how belittling I can really be to some other posters. And if I'm doing that, it's unintentional, and I like to have someone point it out to me. You might be different, but I figured I'd let you know all the same.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #145 - May 11, 2015, 03:41 PM

    I've lived in London for more than 30 years but the way things are going if Scotland does go for independence I'll be seriously tempted to go home.  and in a few years time when the NHS is gone , it costs a grand a week to rent a cupboard in Penge , and unemployed people have a choice between going on reality TV , queuing up outside sports direct at 4 a.m. to beg for a couple of hours work or eating out of bins , I'll look forward to seeing you all at the border crying and pleading to be let in

    Absolutely hysterical.

    Please explain how what you've written relates in ayway to my post?


    What I'm trying to say is that no matter which voting system you prefer, whether it be FPTP, STV, Proportional Representation, the Conservatives will win, either by themselves or with a coalition with UKIP. This is evidently the choice of the British people.

    The UK (or atleast England) is a centrist country. It's not surprising then that Labour wins when they move towards the centre a la New Labour, when Blair become the first Labour PM since 1974.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #146 - May 11, 2015, 04:10 PM



    This is the UK swing map. Interesting to note that a lot of UKIP votes came from Labour voters. They seem to have somewhat established themselves as a working class party. And of course, Labour got slaughtered in Scotland.
  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #147 - May 11, 2015, 04:21 PM

    Lua, I seriously think you're overreacting. I find it disheartening that a MOD is claiming that I'm acting in the way you described as a pattern of behaviour. Different people respond in different ways - it's called personality and enriches the internet. I'm not being purposefully rude to spite someone nor do I berate people with a different opinion to me.

    You're calling me out for basically replying to a post that was condescending and deserved the response it got: 
    Quote
    This election has made me realise how badly people in Britain need to get real. You are immensely privileged. This privilege is not a right, and is not guaranteed to last.


    There's nothing uncivil about what I posted. What hyperbole! I didn't call him names other than call him ignorant based upon the comment I pasted above.

    Gosh, this is embarrassing.

    And Descent, I getcha.

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  • UK Election 2015
     Reply #148 - May 11, 2015, 04:42 PM

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    I find it disheartening that a MOD is claiming that I'm acting in the way you described as a pattern of behaviour.


    Being a mod has nothing to do with it, I've observed that about you long ago, and would've told you last week if the subject came up in time. If you want to say you've never personally insulted others on here in the past, I'm likely equally disheartened by you, but that's fine, if that's what you want to do. As for the variety comment, I'm aware, and that's why I've said abundantly in both of my comments to you that I quite like and appreciate your posts for the most part.

    I disagree that David's comment was grounds to mock him and call him ignorant. And, if you want to talk about assumptions, assuming his opinion came from a place of ignorance. And it was a bummer to see David get annoyed like that because, honestly, he's one of the most relaxed posters on here, and I understood why he took it the way he did.

    So, considering, I figured maybe if I honestly and calmly explained my observations to you as another member of the forum, you'd be willing to respect my opinion, and perhaps not try to use my mod status against me for it--but you know the rest. Grin If you don't want to take the advice, don't take it. Like I said, do your thing, and if this is how you think you'll get productive conversation, more power to you. But in this case, I just had to say something.
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