Which is exactly why I find it odd that you insist on using God as an explanatory model in your reality. Based on what you just said, it shouldn’t matter if we can find “natural” explanations for things, because nature and God would be intrinsically linked as one and the same. If this is the case, as I’ve gathered from what you wrote above, then it shouldn’t matter what the evidence leads us to. We don’t need to reserve spaces for hocus pocus explanations in order to assert that “See, God did it.” We also shouldn’t throw up our hands when we reach an area we aren’t sure of and proudly exclaim that “See, God did it!” It becomes a useless assertion.
So what then becomes the purpose of God if not to explain things in a physical sense? What would be the proof of his existence if he does not exist in the gaps of our knowledge?
That is why, ultimately, I am agnostic about the existence of something we might call a God. It is futile to try and understand it through empirical observations, since, barring God coming down and introducing himself from on high, we’d have no way of testing her out. We can also steadily eliminate certain models of God based on the things we can tell it does NOT do, as we have done with countless thunder gods, rain gods, sea gods, and crop gods throughout history. If you limit your god to those specific activities, you’ll end up losing him as well.
But when you are talking about a being that has NOTHING LIKE it, that is eternal, that is both apparent and hidden, that is omnipresent, and that is alive but does not exist in this physical world, then you are literally talking about something that is beyond our comprehension. It is, without being funny, nonsense. Literal nonsense. As in, we’d have no way of making sense of it, even if we accepted it could be true.
You are talking about something that we as humans may only possibly be able to experience as we experience things like color, or love, or other abstract things that really only make sense in relation to our own minds. But even then, you’d have to accept that everyone’s definition of it would be different according to their own time and location.
It's not reserving spaces for God for things which we don't know. It's realising that there are things which we simply cannot do even though we know the area extremely well. It comes back to where do you draw the line of saying "yup, I accept that this is sign of God" and "nope, we need to investigate further". For example, we KNOW dust and sand does not form rock on it's own through the actions of gravity or any known phenomena. So scientists try other methods which they know about and can be used. For example making them collide or experimenting with different materials. So far nothing works. So do you accept that as evidence of God or do you think that scientists will figure it out in the future?
God needs a method to show what he can do and what we are capable of. God in the Quran says only he can create life, he created the heavens and earth. We can never know for sure using science but we can try ourselves and see if it can happen through natural processes.
I think it's a a good idea to eliminate as many gods as possible until you arrive to a god which fits the model or becomes apparent as God. Which is kind of what I am trying to do.
We don't have to make sense of the entirety of God, we just have to understand the things we can perceive and understand and which is relevant to us. There's no point in use dwelling about the life of ants. It's fascinating at a certain level but any deeper and it's not relevant. We need to identify what is important to use and work on that. Which in my opinion is to make yourself a better human being and learn about your Creator. If we can just do those 2 things then everything else will fall into place.
I think you are still struggling with concept of God and how he relates to the physical world. It's understandable. All I will say is that be patient and just call on him. He listens. I know it sounds barmy but he's with you whether you like it or not. The only thing that is of any value is you. The material world is irrelevant, a temporary existence soon to vanish to be replaced with something which you will feel like you belong in. I think for you it's just going to take time. I'm reminded of my own thoughts and experiences in my atheist days. At the end of teh day we should be searching for the truth.
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