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  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #330 - September 18, 2015, 01:38 PM

    correcting word meaning and definitions are extremely important.

    "Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group.  "

    Muslim Phobia or Anti-Muslim bigotry is indeed equivalent to  Antisemitism  or Jew Phobia ..

    Islamophobia is completely different word..  It is equivalent to a person having phobia against religions and community enforced religious scriptures  on individuals in general .

    You can say "Judaism Phobia" "Christianity Phobia" "Hinduism Phobia".. Sunnism Phobia.. Shiaism Phobia  ...etc...etc...   as an equivalent word to "Islamophobia"



    But if we're going to go by the literal meanings, would AntiSemitism not stand for the hatred of Semites, including some non-Jews and excluding some Jews? So why the double standards?
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #331 - September 18, 2015, 01:41 PM

    - I am born in Pakistan surrounded by Muslims. I and my family has the experience of living as non Muslim minority in a Muslim country - believe me its ugly. I speak their languages and I know how they think. Non Muslims must to be on constant guard not to say anything which may remotely be taken as an offence. It was made clear to us "convert or die".
    - Accusations of blasphemy against non-Muslims are common. Just the accusation is enough - the accuser need not describe what was really said because that in itself would be considered blasphemy. Salman Taseer, governor of Punjab was killed because he said that blasphemy law should be reformed. His murderer was feted by thousands of lawyers. The lawyers shouted slogans supporting the murderer inside the court.
    - Islamophobia is just a meaningless word used by Muslims and left leaning western intellectuals to malign who have legitimate fear of Islamism and fanatical Muslims.


    So you know how many Pakistani Muslims think, since when did they represent all Muslms? Every culture has its ugly aspects and Pakistan is very well known for its unfair blasphemy laws. In other Muslim countries there were vigils held to mourn the deaths of the 9/11 victims. It is very inaccurate for you to claim that most Muslims were happy when the attacks happened.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #332 - September 18, 2015, 01:43 PM

    I have not got a problem with bigots voicing their bigotry, I do not want to silence them in any way because they have the right to do so. However I also have the right to call a spade a spade.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #333 - September 18, 2015, 01:46 PM

    But if we're going to go by the literal meanings, would AntiSemitism not stand for the hatred of Semites, including some non-Jews and excluding some Jews? So why the double standards?


    Yes it does.. in principle it should include All Semites.  We have to realize AntiSemitism is a new word and became popular after that Hitlerism and followers of Hitler..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #334 - September 18, 2015, 01:48 PM

    As is Islamophobia (it's a new term), that is the point I was trying to make. If some people do not like the term then they are free not to use it and to substitute it with other terms but that does not make it any less valid in my opinion.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #335 - September 18, 2015, 01:54 PM

    As is Islamophobia (it's a new term), that is the point I was trying to make. If some people do not like the term then they are free not to use it and to substitute it with other terms but that does not make it any less valid in my opinion.

    Off course YOU MUST HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE IT and people must have the rights to question it  and argue  to use right term/right words..

    for example I heckle all the time religious bums calling their respective god/gods as "HEEEEE"   as if  the god of their brains is a male species.  So I heckle them and I will keep my rights to be jerk about that ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #336 - September 18, 2015, 01:55 PM

    Regardless of the literal meaning, that is the term associated with anti-Muslim bigotry, which is why it is used to address anti-Muslim bigotry. Just as I pointed out with the example of antiSemitism, it is not the meaning of the word but rathe what we have come to associate it with. I am very critical of Islam yet I do not worry about being called an Islamophobe and do not view the majority of the people on this forum as such.

    I was actually watching a debate between Richard Dawkins and the chief rabbi of London a year or so back. Dawkins was quoting biblical passages and laws and giving opinions on them and the rabbi called him an anti-semite. I've never literally facepalmed while on the computer, but that brought me close. Grin

    This is part of the reason I don't like the term. There are parts of islam, including passages in the quran, that offend me. There are parts of judaism, including passages in the bible, which offend me. But I refuse to be labelled a bigot against muslims or jews, and frankly terms like islamophobia don't help. While of course I recognise the need to acknowledge anti-muslim bigotry, I'd rather it were called just that.

    However I have seen a few who like to dehumanise Muslims then go on to claim that the term is false and is meant to silence critics of Islam. It can be used that way but so can any other term associated with bigotry.


    Hi Ram. Smiley

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #337 - September 18, 2015, 01:57 PM

    I have not got a problem with bigots voicing their bigotry, I do not want to silence them in any way because they have the right to do so. However I also have the right to call a spade a spade.


    Exactly. What people have to realise is that others are under no obligation whatsoever to respect someone's beliefs. You have to respect their right to have an opinion, and I would hope the majority fully do, 100% respect that right, but you don't have to respect the opinion itself.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #338 - September 18, 2015, 02:05 PM

    Quote
    Exactly. What people have to realise is that others are under no obligation whatsoever to respect someone's beliefs. You have to respect their right to have an opinion, and I would hope the majority fully do, 100% respect that right, but you don't have to respect the opinion itself.


    This is exactly what I meant Smiley
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #339 - September 18, 2015, 02:08 PM

    I was actually watching a debate between Richard Dawkins and the chief rabbi of London a year or so back. Dawkins was quoting biblical passages and laws and giving opinions on them and the rabbi called him an anti-semite. I've never literally facepalmed while on the computer, but that brought me close. Grin

    This is part of the reason I don't like the term. There are parts of islam, including passages in the quran, that offend me. There are parts of judaism, including passages in the bible, which offend me. But I refuse to be labelled a bigot against muslims or jews, and frankly terms like islamophobia don't help. While of course I recognise the need to acknowledge anti-muslim bigotry, I'd rather it were called just that.


    I can understand why you and others dislike the term, it does not help when people who are merely critics are accused of bigotry at all. As of now the reason I haven't got an issue with it is because is the term I have always associated with bigotry and nothing else. I guess I am sticking to it out of habit.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #340 - September 18, 2015, 02:14 PM

    Jerking and bonking is extremely important to life Hassan., the sooner you learn the better will be your life ..   You see life gets stagnated, our views about life gets stagnated   without such jerking.

    without jerking you would have been Hafiz or Ameer of some Islamia school. Because of many jerks like me you moved on..  And  you know what., Since you started those  Agnostic Muslim khutbahs/ramblings,    you too started jerking in a big way Hassan..

    So do not stop jerking.....bonking...



     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #341 - September 18, 2015, 02:31 PM

    I can understand why you and others dislike the term, it does not help when people who are merely critics are accused of bigotry at all. As of now the reason I haven't got an issue with it is because is the term I have always associated with bigotry and nothing else. I guess I am sticking to it out of habit.


    A major part of it is that islamophobia is often hard to define. In the debater I mentioned nobody took the rabbi seriously. It's common sense that Dawkins was talking about ancient texts, not human beings.

    Anti-semite, as a word, relates to human beings, not ancient texts. Islamophobia doesn't, and in practise we see it all the time that people so often cannot seem to make the distinction.

    I think ,most people would agree that it's hard to call someone an anti-semite if they mock the idea of a girl being forced to marry her rapist or killing someone for working on Sunday, but when you do the same thing in an islamic context and the word islamophobia is used, you can see the difference in reaction.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #342 - September 18, 2015, 06:42 PM

    I can understand why you and others dislike the term, it does not help when people who are merely critics are accused of bigotry at all. As of now the reason I haven't got an issue with it is because is the term I have always associated with bigotry and nothing else. I guess I am sticking to it out of habit.


    Look with what others associate the term: Charlie Hebdo, Maajid Nawaz. If u are still sticking to it out of habit, don't forget that u are fitting right there for them and for many others as well.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-murdered-staff-given-islamophobe-of-the-year-award-10100317.html
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #343 - September 19, 2015, 07:59 PM

    Quote
    Look with what others associate the term: Charlie Hebdo, Maajid Nawaz. If u are still sticking to it out of habit, don't forget that u are fitting right there for them and for many others as well.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-murdered-staff-given-islamophobe-of-the-year-award-10100317.html


    My point was that this happens in the case of any term associated with bigotry, not just Islamophobia. You will always get idiots who abuse this word and other similar ones. While we're at it would it make sense to say that racism is just a word use to stifle criticism of certain cultural practices (for an example)?
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #344 - September 19, 2015, 08:03 PM

    A major part of it is that islamophobia is often hard to define. In the debater I mentioned nobody took the rabbi seriously. It's common sense that Dawkins was talking about ancient texts, not human beings.

    Anti-semite, as a word, relates to human beings, not ancient texts. Islamophobia doesn't, and in practise we see it all the time that people so often cannot seem to make the distinction.

    I think ,most people would agree that it's hard to call someone an anti-semite if they mock the idea of a girl being forced to marry her rapist or killing someone for working on Sunday, but when you do the same thing in an islamic context and the word islamophobia is used, you can see the difference in reaction.


    I see what you mean, I do wish that a more precise word was used to describe anti-Muslim bigotry but that does not mean that those who use the word are Islam apologists who are trying to stifle criticism, as others are suggesting. Do some abuse it to prevent criticism of Islam? Of course, but many do not.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #345 - September 19, 2015, 08:15 PM

    "Anti-Muslim bigotry". You just used a good word to more accurately describes it.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #346 - September 19, 2015, 08:39 PM

    I see what you mean, I do wish that a more precise word was used to describe anti-Muslim bigotry but that does not mean that those who use the word are Islam apologists who are trying to stifle criticism, as others are suggesting. Do some abuse it to prevent criticism of Islam? Of course, but many do not.

    Agreed, but my central point was on people having different reactions to islamophobe as opposed to anti-semite. The phrase anti-semite clearly separates the people from the dogma whereas islamophobia does not and you can see it in the reactions of people. If this reaction wasn't happening, if people seriously did separate it and scoff at islamophobia being anything other than criticism of dogma it would be a different matter. But words have power. I'm fairly sure if judaismophobia were common instead of anti-semetic we'd see a similar reaction.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #347 - September 19, 2015, 09:12 PM

    Islamophobia doesn't just effect Muslims, it also effects many non-Muslims who people think are Muslims, like when I was in uni, someone smashed the windows of one of my professor's cars...it was determined to be an anti-Muslim hate crime, but he was a Hindu.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #348 - September 19, 2015, 09:58 PM

    My point was that this happens in the case of any term associated with bigotry, not just Islamophobia. You will always get idiots who abuse this word and other similar ones. While we're at it would it make sense to say that racism is just a word use to stifle criticism of certain cultural practices (for an example)?

    Racism is a clear defined term, it deals with race without any reference to culture.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #349 - September 19, 2015, 10:01 PM

    I see what you mean, I do wish that a more precise word was used to describe anti-Muslim bigotry but that does not mean that those who use the word are Islam apologists who are trying to stifle criticism, as others are suggesting. Do some abuse it to prevent criticism of Islam? Of course, but many do not.


    Who has suggested that?
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #350 - September 19, 2015, 11:47 PM

    I'm conscious we may be hijacking Girl's thread. I think the points have been made in this particular subject (islamophobia) and maybe we should give it a rest for now.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #351 - September 20, 2015, 01:14 AM

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=23102.0

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #352 - September 20, 2015, 03:55 AM

    I'm conscious we may be hijacking Girl's thread. I think the points have been made in this particular subject (islamophobia) and maybe we should give it a rest for now.

    Right.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #353 - September 20, 2015, 05:13 AM

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    I'm conscious we may be hijacking Girl's thread. I think the points have been made in this particular subject (islamophobia) and maybe we should give it a rest for now.

     


    No,,No not "we"   speak to yourself QSE  .. you are the worst hijacker  . you hijack the threads and hit them against buildings..

    see what you did here..
    I was actually watching a debate between Richard Dawkins and the chief rabbi of London a year or so back. Dawkins was quoting biblical passages and laws and giving opinions on them and the rabbi called him an anti-semite. I've never literally facepalmed while on the computer, but that brought me close. Grin


    that is how you hijack the threads  QSE..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFdPHdhgKQ

    after watching 1 hr of bullshit from that guy  now I KNOW WHY PEOPLE CALL JEWS ARE CUNNING..

    https://mynameisjoecortina.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/cunning-jews-always-demonize-their-victims-and-absolve-themselves-of-the-crime/
    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Jews-called-cunning-people
    http://theendofzion.com/masters-of-deceit-a-short-history-of-the-jews-ben-
    klassen/
    http://morningmail.org/isis-tricked-jews/  


    Again and that is how  you hijack the threads  QSE.... finmad finmad

    http://www.salon.com/2014/09/27/jonathan_sacks_on_richard_dawkins_new_atheists_lack_a_sense_of_humor/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/0/19563336

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #354 - September 20, 2015, 08:11 AM

    Thanks QSE, we have gone off on a bit of a tangent  Smiley
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #355 - September 20, 2015, 08:16 AM



    The article is gone now but the name of it already looks revolting.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #356 - September 20, 2015, 09:44 AM

    Wasn't Muslim Spice a parody thing?

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #357 - September 20, 2015, 12:14 PM

    Wasn't Muslim Spice a parody thing?

    flower of corn and flower for all times.,  you are absolutely correct  about that  Muslim Spice a parody stuff .. let me put it here..

    Quote
    Women Whom Men Should Not Marry

    Most Muslims know the famous saying of Prophet Muhammad (S) in which he mentioned that a woman can be married for wealth, status, beauty, or her religion and that her religion (piety) was the most important factor to consider.

    Scholars have expounded upon this by adding to the understanding of the types of women a man should not marry. The great jurist of the last century Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-Uthaymeen taught Muslim men that seven types of women should not be married:

    1) Al-Annaanah: The woman who whines, moans, and complains and ties a band around her head all the time meaning that she complains of a headache or some illness but in reality she is feigning illness.

    2) Al-Mannaanah: The woman who bestows favours and gifts upon her husband then in the future reminds him “I did such and such for you or on your behalf or because of you”.

    3) Al-Hannaanah: The woman who yearns for her former husband or children of her former husband.

    4) Kay’atul-Qafaa: The woman who has a brand mark on the nape of her neck meaning she has a bad reputation or doubts about her.

    5) Al-Haddaaqah: The woman who casts her eyes at things meaning she is always looking at something to purchase, then desires it, and then requires her husband to buy it no matter what.

    6) Al-Barraaqah: The women who spends much of her day enhancing her face and beautifying it to such an extent that it will seem like it was manufactured.

    7) Al-Shaddaaqah: The woman who talks excessively.

    His eminence outlined this advice to the men of the Muslim nation and for that the nation is much obliged. To that I can add the following modern phenomenon that requires careful consideration:

    1) Twitterer: A woman who uses a twitter account for anything that is not related to keeping in touch with her relatives or for professional work (e.g. a gynecologist tweeting child birth advice). Our advice is to stay clear from twitter users who use it for non-family or non-professional reasons. Some women use twitter to stay connected to Islam and Islamic knowledge but they quickly fall into useless conversation and openly flirt with and/or praise their Shuyookh/teachers on twitter. If a woman does not have a Twitter account move her up your list.

    2) Facebookers: Facebook is now one of the leading conduits of the break-up of marriages. Any woman who has pictures of herself displayed on her Facebook page should be automatically disqualified. If she is not shy to have millions of men feast their eyes on her then groom beware! If she is using Facebook for strictly business or for staying in touch with only her female friends and her relatives then an exception can be made. If a woman does not have a Facebook account move her up your list.

    3) Professional/Career types: Muslim scholars of classical times and contemporary times have explained that a woman has no need to go outside the home to earn a living. Her father, brother, grandfather, husband, son are all there to provide for her. Career Muslim women will say Khadeejah bint Khuwaylid (RA) worked. In fact she hired men to work on her behalf. She was not out in the markets bartering and trading. Even speakers such as Yasir al-Qadhi have stated that women should not work except in a couple of professions such as teaching girls and gynecology. Muslim women marriage counselors have stated that a major cause of disruption in marriages is the inflexibility of the career wife. Avoid career women who go out to corporate offices and intermingle with men in the course of their work. If a woman loves home making, cooking, cleaning, and raising children move her up your list.

    4) Temperamental types: Any woman who cannot check her emotions and is prone to frequent angry fits over little things should be avoided at all costs. If a woman’s temperament is cool as a cucumber move her up your list.

    5) Non-virgins: Do not marry a woman who lost her virginity outside marriage or even engaged in any sexual exploits such as kissing and such outside marriage. According to psychologists these women have attachment issues, tremendous baggage, and may compare you to her previous lover(s). If she was previously married or widowed or if she is a convert then there is no harm in marrying her. If a woman did not lose her virginity to anything except a marriage then move her up your list.

    6) Truculent types: The last thing you want is a woman who argues with you about every insignificant thing. There are women who know when to back off from an argument to keep peace in the home and there are those that will want to have their way. Avoid at all costs the truculent types. If a woman is wise and non-argumentative move her up your list.

    7) Non-hijabis: Do not marry non-hijabis. Too many men have married a non-hijabi because she promised she’ll wear a hijab afterwards but that never materialized and he’s left in embarrassment as his friends can see his wife’s hair and the shape of her bosoms and hips. Just don’t fall into that trap. If a woman wears hijab, move her up your list.

    Cool Non-haya types: You can spot these women easily. They may even be wearing hijab. But they do not have any shyness when talking to a man. They will ease into a conversation with a stranger man in her college class or work or public just as easily as she would ease into a conversation with a woman. This is not her fault. She was raised in an inclusive environment where men and women are ‘equal’ and so her dealings with men and women are also identical. If the woman you are talking to for marriage blushes or lowers her eyes instinctively when you say “Salaam” to her then move her to the top of your list.

    9) Daughters of men who are in haram professions: If a woman’s father is a banker, loan officer, pork farmer, gas station owner who sells lottery tickets and alcohol, brothel owner, night club owner, pays interest on his house or pays interest on business loans then avoid marrying his daughter if she sees nothing wrong with those professions/transactions. Your wife will be the mother of your children and will teach your children what is acceptable and what is not. If she deems nothing wrong with those professions steer clear. If a woman is the daughter of a man who is in a halal profession then move her up your list.

    10) Contemptuous feminist types: While feminism in general has died a protracted death in America, Muslim feminism is currently riding a wave. If a woman you are talking to for marriage shows signs that if she were asked to make a sandwich and tea for you on a Saturday morning she would not do so except as a chore or begrudgingly then steer clear. In fact you shouldn’t even have to ask her. It should come naturally. Just as naturally as you go to work 40 hours a week for the family. There are two types of women. Those who consider home making a humiliating chore and those who love to please their man by making him dinner and soothing conversation after a long day or after a long week. There are niqabi women who have come on CNN and proudly boasted that they make their husbands do the dishes. If you are an impuissant man and can deal with that then all clear. If you cannot then steer clear of the women who wear the pants in the family because our Prophet Muhammad (S) has stated that the man is the leader of the family. The leading cause of American Muslim men going abroad to marry brides is the high percentage of contemptuous feminists in the marriage pool in America. If a woman feels happy about the thought of pleasing her husband then move her to the top of your list.

    There are a lot of other considerations and guidelines provided in the Sunnah and the eager bachelor is urged to add to his knowledge by researching further. I pray that Allah grants you a beautiful pious home maker(s) who will be the delight of your eyes and the coolness of your soul.


    Huh!.. I would like to write something to compliment that..   let me start with first point.. the readers could add more to the list.

    Women Should Not Marry the following men

    1). A man with long beard with baboon belly  and preaches junk from religious books

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #358 - September 20, 2015, 12:23 PM

    The article is gone ...............

    Helloooo      A girl ..     " AGirlWithDoubts"  just a note on your nick name ...

    Doubt is the fundamental reason from which human race evolved.  doubting   religious..scientific.. social ...political philosophies    is the   reason why we progressed from cave ages... So however good we may be  however advanced we may be.. however good a concept on a given subject may be..   Me must keep the option for doubting..  

    Let every one of us l be  a "doubting prophet"..  Moses was "doubting prophet"....Jesus was "doubting prophet"  ..Muhammad was "doubting prophet".. so why not we?  And  I doubt all those guys existed the way the religious scriptures described about them

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #359 - September 20, 2015, 01:10 PM


    Women Should Not Marry the following men

    1). A man with long beard with baboon belly  and preaches junk from religious books



    1) A man who does not respect her.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
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