Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts


Do humans have needed kno...
Today at 06:32 AM

New Britain
January 21, 2025, 11:54 PM

AMRIKAAA Land of Free .....
January 20, 2025, 05:08 PM

Gaza assault
January 18, 2025, 03:31 PM

اضواء على الطريق ....... ...
by akay
January 18, 2025, 03:28 PM

Lights on the way
by akay
January 17, 2025, 06:22 PM

Random Islamic History Po...
by zeca
December 29, 2024, 12:03 PM

Qur'anic studies today
by zeca
December 29, 2024, 11:55 AM

News From Syria
by zeca
December 28, 2024, 12:29 AM

Mo Salah
December 26, 2024, 05:30 AM

What music are you listen...
by zeca
December 25, 2024, 10:58 AM

What's happened to the fo...
December 25, 2024, 02:29 AM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers

 (Read 8116 times)
  • 12 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     OP - August 12, 2016, 10:30 PM

    Quote
    CHICAGO: A young Muslim woman on Thursday sued Chicago police who mistakenly identified her briefly as a potential "lone wolf" terrorist as she was leaving a city subway station last year on the Fourth of July wearing a headscarf, face veil and carrying a backpack.

    Itemid Al-Matar says officers violated her civil rights by pulling off her religious garb as they arrested her on subway station stairs, then strip-searched her later at a police station, according to the federal lawsuit filed in Chicago on her behalf.

    "Several (officers) ran up the stairs and grabbed the Plaintiff and threw her down upon the stair landing, then pulling at her and ripping off her hijab." it says.
    ...

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1277118/muslim-woman-mistaken-for-terrorist-sues-chicago-officers

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #1 - August 13, 2016, 01:33 AM

    Well, it says that security camera video was made public, but I cant find anything through google. Probably that could shed more light on the event.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #2 - August 13, 2016, 09:53 AM

    Hilarious that CAIR is complaining about racial profiling given that the lady was wearing a burqa. And I have the suspicion that some subway people complained and called 911, given her appearance. People are cautious these days.

    The French got this right. Ban the damn thing.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #3 - August 13, 2016, 12:00 PM

    IMO she did the right thing.

    The officers behavior is unacceptable.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #4 - August 13, 2016, 01:57 PM

    Quote
    Hilarious that CAIR is complaining about racial profiling given that the lady was wearing a burqa. ...............

    IMO she did the right thing.

    The officers behavior is unacceptable.


    That is NOT racial profiling .. that is profiling the faith/religion..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #5 - August 13, 2016, 04:53 PM

    Tell that to CAIR.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #6 - August 13, 2016, 06:22 PM

    Tell that to CAIR.

    i am telling  that for a  long time and i will tell again dear nbhb  but let us watch these videos..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61QCnZ6y0r0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn5h8mA9vsk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jUeqlZ0uo

    and tell me what is right and what is wrong in those three tubes..


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #7 - August 13, 2016, 08:56 PM

    To be honest the policemen seem to act quite professional, given the fact that she was suspected for having a bomb.  That they are taking her hijab off, is for identification. This is USA not KSA from where the lady appears she is. Seems to me the big fuss here is that she was picked up as a suspect because she was wearing a sort of burqa and had a bag as well.

    About CAIR what do you want me to say other than they are pursuing their usual agenda. This has nothing to do with racism and IMO islamophobia as well, but of course they are trying hard to make it like this.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #8 - August 13, 2016, 11:36 PM

    How is ripping someone's clothing considered "acting professional"?

  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #9 - August 14, 2016, 12:44 AM

    The video certainly doesn't look good for the officers. I also don't think that wearing a niqab ought to be probable cause for the sort of things that they did, especially a strip search afterwards.

    The only thing I can say in the officers' defense, is that we might not have as much context into the initial confrontation, due to the lack of sound in the video. But ultimately, I still don't think it looks good.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #10 - August 14, 2016, 04:41 AM

    How is ripping someone's clothing considered "acting professional"?


    And what do you want them to do, when she obviously refuses to let them do it? She is a terrorist suspect, it's important for policemen to see the suspects face. You are talking like she was fully cooperating.

    Tell me, if it wasn't a religious symbol would have been such a big fuss or even the slightest problem?
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #11 - August 14, 2016, 04:57 AM

    I refuse to believe you're not trolling.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #12 - August 14, 2016, 06:36 AM

    And what do you want them to do, when she obviously refuses to let them do it? She is a terrorist suspect, it's important for policemen to see the suspects face. You are talking like she was fully cooperating.

    Tell me, if it wasn't a religious symbol would have been such a big fuss or even the slightest problem?


    Legitimate questions. Ask away all the questions but our conclusions thus far must be based on the evidence provided. So far we have received one side. I want to know what happened prior, what instigated the cops suspicions and what was said during the encounter?

    Irrespective, the alleged behaviour of the officers 'stripping her naked' and laughing whilst calling her terrorists is gross misconduct and grounds for dismissal.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #13 - August 14, 2016, 06:39 AM

    To be honest the policemen seem to act quite professional, given the fact that she was suspected for having a bomb.  That they are taking her hijab off, is for identification. This is USA not KSA from where the lady appears she is. Seems to me the big fuss here is that she was picked up as a suspect because she was wearing a sort of burqa and had a bag as well.

    Quote
    About CAIR what do you want me to say other than they are pursuing their usual agenda. This has nothing to do with racism and IMO islamophobia as well, but of course they are trying hard to make it like this.


     well I will agree with you on that CAIR.,  And I will say to every one "that there is nothing wrong people having some phobias  such as Islamophobia or some other faith phobias  or any other  phobias" but my problem is the way  the  American police handles a given situation

    for e.g,in your response  
    Quote
    To be honest the policemen seem to act quite professional, given the fact that she was suspected for having a bomb.  That they are taking her hijab off, is for identification.


    If she is suspected to have a bomb under her burkha  then that is a STUPIDEST and worst way to handle the situation which  is rip her clothing., If she really had a bomb and a suicide bomber  she could have easily made  a horrible scene out of that railway station.,  For that she need to be asked to stop  ..isolate her from public, cordon of the area   and tell her that you are bomb suspect and you must be isolated from public area in a secured vehicle..

    That is the first thing they should have done.,   Or if she was suspected having a bomb some where in her  house/ apartment  then that is also not the right  thing to do.,   to  rip her clothes off.. She should again be taken in to police vehicle and take her to her house and search the premises  .. See this tube the way  police behave in AMRIKA ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBMEOeXwlLk

    So one must realize the problem and figure  out solution .,Now if AMerika doesn't want any burqa  clad women on the roads and public palces   then they should go ahead and put out the rules for public and see the response from Americans.,  So dear nbhb one should not be emotional against Islam  against Muslims or for that matter in support of slam and  in support of Muslims   .,   Oh Muslims .. I am police ..take way their burqa .. rip her clothes

    any way think about that  nbhb and let me read this news

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37074912
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37072847

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #14 - August 14, 2016, 10:31 AM

    Quote from: yeezevee
    If she is suspected to have a bomb under her burkha  then that is a STUPIDEST and worst way to handle the situation which  is rip her clothing., If she really had a bomb and a suicide bomber  she could have easily made  a horrible scene out of that railway station.,  For that she need to be asked to stop  ..isolate her from public, cordon of the area   and tell her that you are bomb suspect and you must be isolated from public area in a secured vehicle..

    That is the first thing they should have done.,   Or if she was suspected having a bomb some where in her  house/ apartment  then that is also not the right  thing to do.,   to  rip her clothes off.. She should again be taken in to police vehicle and take her to her house and search the premises  .. See this tube the way  police behave in AMRIKA


    What are you doing here Yeeze? The bomb was supposed to be in the backpack,  not under her niqab.

    You think is a good idea for police to ask someone with full of prople around him and who is supposed to have a bomb to stop right there? What do you think will happens next?
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #15 - August 14, 2016, 10:53 AM

    So one must realize the problem and figure  out solution .,Now if AMerika doesn't want any burqa  clad women on the roads and public palces   then they should go ahead and put out the rules for public and see the response from Americans.,  So dear nbhb one should not be emotional against Islam  against Muslims or for that matter in support of slam and  in support of Muslims   .,   Oh Muslims .. I am police ..take way their burqa .. rip her clothes


    One who? The policemen, people? Don't understand what are you saying...
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #16 - August 14, 2016, 11:30 AM

    I really feel for that poor girl!!

    why didn't the police try and talk to her instead of ambushing her from behind. all they had to say was 'excuse me miss can we have a chat about your back pack'. she's hardly built like Rambo. and if she didn't agree then by all means arrest her. pushing her to the ground could've set off a bomb.

    I do wish they didn't wear the full face cover but it is their right to wear it and I don't believe in banning stuff.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #17 - August 14, 2016, 12:15 PM

    Profiling, nothing more. It is going to become similar to the nonsense of reporting of the "wrong colour type" of being in a neighborhood. It could become far worse as it is not bound to white privilege.

    I hope she wins her case even if CAIR is involved.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #18 - August 14, 2016, 12:38 PM

    What are you doing here Yeeze? The bomb was supposed to be in the backpack,  not under her niqab.

    well what I always do is right thing that I feel is right dear nbhb.,

    Quote
    You think is a good idea for police to ask someone with full of prople around him and who is supposed to have a bomb to stop right there?

    I actually described the scene to you how to deal with a  person having a suicide bomb nbhb.,  Assuming she has bomb in her back pack.,  yes I think what i suggested is  is better idea than grappling with her,  pulling her clothes where the probability for her to explode the device is high and may cause lot more causalities including killing the police officers

    Quote
    What do you think will happens next?


    well  if she was really a suicide bomber she will explode and die with minimum causalities to the rest .. You are not even thinking about a bomb and suicide bomber dear nbhb but  your neurons are running around,   how to stop Islam and how to stop burqa wearing women by harassing and using insults at them. 

    so let us think again...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #19 - August 14, 2016, 12:49 PM

    One who? The policemen, people? Don't understand what are you saying...

    you see what you have done with your two post response is eliminating half of my response and selectively using few words.,  did you watch Police and their attitude towards American Public dear nbhb? Off course  I am not saying every Police officer is like that  but  So yes you can not understand what i am saying dear nbhb.,  

    you must  and WEST MUST LEARN TO SEPARATE ISLAM from Muslims and WEST MUST LEARN TO SEPARATE normal Muslim folks ((who will give full  freedom to express your views  to criticize their faith)) from  Baboons of Islam and rogues of Islam.

    well let us read this news,..  Shah Rukh Khan, Bollywood superstar detained at US airport for third time  that is 2 days old news from AMRIKA CNN.,   I wish they undressed him the way they did to that woman at Chicago railway station

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #20 - August 14, 2016, 01:05 PM

    Re: Shahrukh Khan

    Quote
    On Wednesday, he joked that he managed to catch some good Pokemons while waiting, and in a speech to Yale University in 2012, he told students that he always takes a trip to America when he starts feeling arrogant about himself.

    "The immigration guys kick the star out of stardom," Khan said.


     Cheesy

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #21 - August 14, 2016, 09:21 PM

    well what I always do is right thing that I feel is right dear nbhb.,
    I actually described the scene to you how to deal with a  person having a suicide bomb nbhb.,  Assuming she has bomb in her back pack.,  yes I think what i suggested is  is better idea than grappling with her,  pulling her clothes where the probability for her to explode the device is high and may cause lot more causalities including killing the police officers

    well  if she was really a suicide bomber she will explode and die with minimum causalities to the rest .. You are not even thinking about a bomb and suicide bomber dear nbhb but  your neurons are running around,   how to stop Islam and how to stop burqa wearing women by harassing and using insults at them. 

    so let us think again...


    Yes Yeeze you are usually doing the thing that you feel is right, that's why I asked you what you are doing, why you are disingenuous right now?

    Bomb under niqab, really? Rip her clothes? Apart from mask/niqab what else they have ripped off from her? You are talking like they were stripped her naked. And even worse, acusing me that somehow I condone harassing and using insults at burqa wearing women?

    You are better than this, that's why I asked you what are doing. Stop this nonsense please.

    Now let me ask you this. Do you think if it was a non muslim wearing a simple mask with no religious significance, it would have been even the slightest problem to take her/his mask off? Don't you think the officers should see the suspects face? Do you think special rules have to be made when arresting people wearing a mask which is a religious symbol as well?

    Let's be honest the big fuss here is not the ripping of clothes as some are trying to portrait it here.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #22 - August 14, 2016, 10:01 PM

    you see what you have done with your two post response is eliminating half of my response and selectively using few words.,  did you watch Police and their attitude towards American Public dear nbhb? Off course  I am not saying every Police officer is like that  but  So yes you can not understand what i am saying dear nbhb.,  

    you must  and WEST MUST LEARN TO SEPARATE ISLAM from Muslims and WEST MUST LEARN TO SEPARATE normal Muslim folks ((who will give full  freedom to express your views  to criticize their faith)) from  Baboons of Islam and rogues of Islam.

    well let us read this news,..  Shah Rukh Khan, Bollywood superstar detained at US airport for third time  that is 2 days old news from AMRIKA CNN.,   I wish they undressed him the way they did to that woman at Chicago railway station


    You want all people in the West to separate Islam from Muslims. You want westerners not associate Muslims with terrorism. You want them to learn these. You're practically want all people in the West to act very rational, not at all emotional and also not stupidly. Such idealistic approach doesn't work and you know it, so why asking for it?

    Muslims are associated with Islam and Islam is associated with violence and terrorism, so if you want West not associate Muslims with violence and terrorism something must be done with Islam and not with the West and you know this as well.

    I was selective, because I want to discuss this particular incident and not the general attitude of American police.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #23 - August 15, 2016, 08:05 AM

    New York mayor claims that Muslims are under fire from bigots (where art thou muslim_atheism).

    BUT no confirmation has been received by the police of cause of the crime.




    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #24 - August 15, 2016, 12:05 PM

    You want all people in the West to separate Islam from Muslims. You want westerners not associate Muslims with terrorism. You want them to learn these. You're practically want all people in the West to act very rational, not at all emotional and also not stupidly. Such idealistic approach doesn't work and you know it, so why asking for it?

    I want educated and authority figures in the west to act very rational, not   emotional and also not stupid .,  If their judgement in some cases/situations is wrong  apologize and correct it.. and DO NOT REPEAT IT
    Quote
    Muslims are associated with Islam and Islam is associated with violence and terrorism,

    Nope  WRONG.,  

    let me rewrite that., Muslims are associated with a faith called as  "Islam" ., Faith based ideologies that are political in nature are associated with violence and terrorism.,Islam is based on copy/pasted book Quran and most of it comes from  earlier Abrahamic faith + bit of Pagan faiths that were around Arabian peninsula

    BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IN MY RESPONSE TO YOU

     
    Quote
    so if you want West not associate Muslims with violence and terrorism something must be done with Islam  and not with the Westand you know this as well.

    yes..yesssssssss.. I know part of the game and I want to do that., .. "SOMETHING  WITH ISLAM"  .....give me the recipe for that  dear nbhb.,  

    No..noo you are partially right., we should do something with Islam and as well something with West as well as with east ..  East or west Essentially we need to do something with people's brain..
    Quote
    I was selective, because I want to discuss this particular incident and not the general attitude of American police.

    the only thing that is right in your response is that "you were/are selective" dear nbhb


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #25 - August 16, 2016, 07:45 AM

    Given that you have accused me that I'm selectively respond to your posts, would you try to not do the same and respond to my questions?
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #26 - August 16, 2016, 07:49 AM

    Profiling, nothing more.


    Yes, but we don't know if only police was involved in this. I'm very curious to know if(given her appearance) some people have called to 911.
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #27 - August 16, 2016, 12:31 PM

    Given that you have accused me that I'm selectively respond to your posts, would you try to not do the same and respond to my questions?

    we are going out of the real problem nbhb.,  post your questions again  that I didn't  answer on this case please.  This is a classic test case for US of A and religious freedom that may also go into racial problems  of US of A.  If she looses this case  it is not a big issue., but if she wins the case it will pave a highway to many more such cases ..

    and please  read the other case from US of A.. that a Hispanic guy   takes a gun and kills a Mosque Imam in a cold blood  because he hates Muslims and apparently he  had that problem since that 9/11 tragedy ..otherwise he was a not a criminal or a bad guy

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #28 - August 16, 2016, 12:52 PM

    the case again....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn5h8mA9vsk

    Quote
    A woman filed a federal civil rights lawsuit Thursday against the city of Chicago and six of its police officers after she said the officers profiled her based on her religious garb and assaulted her outside a CTA train station last year.

    Quote
    On July Fourth, Itemid Al-Matar, who was observing Ramadan, was trying to catch the train home so she could break fast at sunset. As she was walking up the stairs to the CTA "L" stop at State and Lake streets, police officers grabbed her, unprovoked, and threw her down on the landing, the suit alleges.


    According to court records, Al-Matar, 32, moved to Chicago from Saudi Arabia two years ago to study English.

    A CTA surveillance video shows Al-Matar climbing the stairs alone toward the platform when a group of five officers approaches her from behind. One of the officers grabs her by the shoulder and brings her to the ground, where the police huddle around her and appear to search her.

    At a news conference Thursday, Al-Matar's attorney, Gregory Kulis, claimed police ripped off her religious headwear, a hijab and niqab. He said they exposed her midriff while she was handcuffed on the ground.

    Al-Matar was arrested and charged with reckless conduct and several counts of obstructing justice. In June, a Cook County judge dismissed the first charge and found Al-Matar not guilty of the other counts.

    "If they felt that there was some concern, the initial approach would be like every one of us on the street: 'Excuse me, sir, excuse me, ma'am, can I just ask you a question — what's your name and where are you going?'" Kulis said.

    A Chicago police spokeswoman said the department does not comment on pending litigation.

    The suit cites Mayor Rahm Emanuel's acknowledgment in December of a prevailing "code of silence" among police and claims the department's failing to investigate and discipline officers is a contributing factor in Al-Matar's incident.

    Kulis said the police incident report included information that somebody indicated she was a "lone wolf suicide bomber."

    "It's unfortunate that in Chicago this incident reflects ingrained prejudice that some people still have," Kulis said.

    He said he expects police Superintendent Eddie Johnson to hold the officers involved accountable.

    The suit — which alleges use of excessive force, false arrest, unlawful search, malicious prosecution and violation of Al-Matar's right to freedom of religious expression — will continue conversations about Islamophobia in the U.S., said Ahmed Rehab, executive director of Chicago's Council On American Islamic Relations.

    Rehab said the incident demonstrates the Chicago Police Department still needs to devote more time to sensitivity training.

    Quote
    "Policing ought to protect us from unlawful activity and crimes. It should not be in the business of attempting to protect us against people who look different" he said.


    Rehab noted that because Al-Matar was jailed the night of the incident, she was unable to break her fast for another day.

    "There is a human at the center of this case. ... under this simple piece of cloth is a full and complex heart-beating human," said Rehab. "We understand that for many people she may look like someone they that they are scared of. But that does not excuse dehumanizing or demonizing her."

    Because of the pending litigation, Al-Matar — who goes by the name Angel — spoke only a few sentences at the news conference Thursday. She said she did not leave home this Fourth of July, her second in the U.S.

    "I don't want that nightmare to happen again," she said.


    Please read the case carefully  ..and that note is for nbhb

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Muslim woman mistaken for terrorist sues Chicago officers
     Reply #29 - August 16, 2016, 01:15 PM

    Yes, but we don't know if only police was involved in this. I'm very curious to know if(given her appearance) some people have called to 911.


    what  .. THAT IS SILLY AND STUPID...some people call police on you and police do exactly the same way to your wife or other women folks in your family..what is your response dear nbhb?

    if some one calls  911 on some one and police in US of A behave like that?  that too to a person who don't know how to speak English??

    In fact a similar case happened to a Indian guy which I did add in to the forum..  here is the news link on that  from  US OF A mouth..

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/us/alabama-police-beating/

    please read that case carefully dear nbhb...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 12 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »