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  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #210 - November 04, 2008, 07:23 PM
    Quote from: AgainstScience on November 04, 2008, 06:43 PM
    To be candid.

    I thot I was gonna meet intellectuals here when i was invited. But I am dismayed to say the least.

    U have childish peeps ashamed to declare their faith, yet they wish to throw guests in a ring, like some kind of entertainer.
    U have peeps who say in a summarily description of guided evolution, all specie should be mentioned individually.
    U have peeps who beat dead horses.
    U have sa(d)sperate liars, who draw conclusions where evidence is yet to unfold.
    U have peeps who lock threads and force guests into colonial status.

    I am disappointed.

    Benefit from the website. http://AgainstScience.com

    and my second site:

    http://UnderstandingChrist.org.

    U guys don't deserve a min of my time.

    Peace, understanding and blessings.
    I love u all.


    I thought the same of you too, boy, was I wrong  Cheesy
    I was not blessed with the ability to have blind faith. I cant beleive something just because someone says its true.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #211 - November 04, 2008, 08:37 PM
    From the other forum

    Quote from: AJ
    AgainstScienceCom,

    You got drubbed pretty bad by the ex muslims eh ?

    regards,
    AJ



    Quote from: AgainstScienceCom
    I am not foolish. That's a joint of moles...sad, desperate searchers who r at best seeking selective discourse and wish have a coliseum like setting with me running in the middle like some slave set to war. Allah made me free. I am free born. I only dialogue with intellectuals. Not sub.


     Cheesy Cheesy
    I was not blessed with the ability to have blind faith. I cant beleive something just because someone says its true.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #212 - November 04, 2008, 08:43 PM
    Quote from: Anti-Jihadist on November 04, 2008, 08:37 PM
    From the other forum

    Quote from: AJ
    AgainstScienceCom,

    You got drubbed pretty bad by the ex muslims eh ?

    regards,
    AJ



    Quote from: AgainstScienceCom
    I am not foolish. That's a joint of moles...sad, desperate searchers who r at best seeking selective discourse and wish have a coliseum like setting with me running in the middle like some slave set to war. Allah made me free. I am free born. I only dialogue with intellectuals. Not sub.


     Cheesy Cheesy



    Hey, how come he don't talk in txt talk on the other forum? Huh?
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #213 - November 04, 2008, 09:08 PM
    Great stuff. I told him he'd be free to start threads as long as he showed a willingness to discuss instead of lie and evade. He has only himself to blame. Wanker.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #214 - November 04, 2008, 09:14 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 04, 2008, 09:08 PM
    Great stuff. I told him he'd be free to start threads as long as he showed a willingness to discuss instead of lie and evade. He has only himself to blame. Wanker.



    One bottleneck short of a dolphin.






    *I know it's bottlenose, but wouldn't work Wink
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #215 - November 04, 2008, 09:18 PM
     Cheesy
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #216 - November 05, 2008, 02:26 AM
    Damn sleeping in! I missed all the fun.  finmad
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #217 - November 05, 2008, 12:30 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 05, 2008, 02:26 AM
    Damn sleeping in! I missed all the fun.  finmad

    No you didn't Heartbomb. You can play 'spot the deliberate mistake'.
     Note the inconsistencies in the use of English in different formats, the attempts at eel-like evasion in the face of overwhelming logic, the sly personal attacks and put-downs on female moderators, the whining self effacement towards the male mods, etc, etc.  Quite entertaining really. Have fun.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #218 - November 05, 2008, 12:41 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on November 05, 2008, 12:30 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 05, 2008, 02:26 AM
    Damn sleeping in! I missed all the fun.  finmad

    No you didn't Heartbomb. You can play 'spot the deliberate mistake'.
     Note the inconsistencies in the use of English in different formats, the attempts at eel-like evasion in the face of overwhelming logic, the sly personal attacks and put-downs on female moderators, the whining self effacement towards the male mods, etc, etc.  Quite entertaining really. Have fun.


    Oh but you nit-picked it all in one post! Now there's nothing left for me  Cry


     Tongue
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #219 - November 05, 2008, 12:54 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 05, 2008, 12:41 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on November 05, 2008, 12:30 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 05, 2008, 02:26 AM
    Damn sleeping in! I missed all the fun.  finmad

    No you didn't Heartbomb. You can play 'spot the deliberate mistake'.
     Note the inconsistencies in the use of English in different formats, the attempts at eel-like evasion in the face of overwhelming logic, the sly personal attacks and put-downs on female moderators, the whining self effacement towards the male mods, etc, etc.  Quite entertaining really. Have fun.


    Oh but you nit-picked it all in one post! Now there's nothing left for me  Cry


     Tongue

    Aye, there is. Find it for yourself.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #220 - November 06, 2008, 10:38 PM
    Look at one of his latest claim .....

    Quote
    It's embarrassing. And they lie too much. They claim they were the first to get to the moon, colored people have been going to the moon by cheaper portal transport methods, for decades.

    Science is just figuring out how to use teleport transport this 20th century. Really frustrating, but oh well.


    When asked for evidence, he came up with this ..

    Quote
    Read Quran for description based evidence.

    Or did Napoleon never exist?

    I was not blessed with the ability to have blind faith. I cant beleive something just because someone says its true.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #221 - November 06, 2008, 10:40 PM
    He's bloody nuts. I mean clinically bonkers. Not worth debating at all.  bunny
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #222 - November 06, 2008, 10:48 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 06, 2008, 10:40 PM
    He's bloody nuts. I mean clinically bonkers. Not worth debating at all.  bunny

    I concur. Shame really, it was entertaining whilst it lasted.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #223 - November 06, 2008, 10:53 PM
    We need an Islamic Dave Hawkins. If you haven't heard the name before I can link you up with some massive train wrecks of threads (in which I was one of the most misbehaving participants  dance ).
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #224 - November 06, 2008, 10:59 PM
    Please do (and I'm sure you were).
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #225 - November 06, 2008, 11:13 PM
    Well the bloke in question is a US YEC. Not surprising, really. The odd thing about him is that he will actually stick around and try to argue his case after definitively stating it. He still relies on evasion, dishonesty, misrepresentation, quote mining, personal attacks, etc, etc and ends up with his pants around his ankles but he has provided a lot of people with a lot of education and mirth.

    Of course the education comes not from him but from the refutations his assertions attract.  Wink  I learned heaps out of those threads. He's had some recently over at TalkRational. I haven't been involved in any of his threads for some time due to running this place but if you look for anything with his name on it in the Evo/Creo board you'll get some amusement..

    Some of the best stuff was back at Dawkins and Internet Infidels. You'd need to be registered to see the massive trainwreck that was the comments thread but the actual debates at Dawkins are on public display.

    http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10675
    http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=15538

    I wasn't in those. I was part of the baying mob in the comments threads. If you have an account there I can link you up with the comments thread too.

    I'll dig out the IIDB links as well. There's some great stuff in those. Everything from linguistics to orbital mechanics.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #226 - November 09, 2008, 08:37 AM
    I've been doing a bit of checking up on genetic bottlenecks. Not for the benefit of AgainstScience but just for future reference when dealing with any Islamic creationists.

    Funny thing is that the Toba bottleneck (70,000 years or so back) is surprise, surprise, no use for dating Teh Fludde. Betcha didn't expect that, huh? It turns out that there's a species of Galapagos tortoise that had a bottleneck circa 100,000 years ago that coincides with a conclusively dated volcanic eruption on the island. No evidence of one since and the really good bit is that the tortoises on neighbouring islands don't show the same bottleneck.

    IOW, just these tortoises alone would push Teh Fludde back well over 100,000 years. I'll find out more about them and some other species. I'm sure there's heaps of useful examples in the literature.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #227 - November 09, 2008, 05:43 PM
    All good stuff. Thanks.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #228 - November 18, 2008, 07:12 AM
    Peace to u folk.

    Prophet Muhammad(P) first discovered (100s of years before George Mendel)-

    1. Gene assortment
    2. Inheritable traits of equal numbers in both sexes
    3. Gene linkage trace-able to the first man(Adam)
    4. Genetic inheritance patterns being related in both man and other species

    It is a shame he has not been accredited and awarded, for his first publications on these! But I give it to him, and I bet you all will too.

    View: http://www.againstscience.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=24



    .
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #229 - November 18, 2008, 09:20 AM
    lol.

    WOW. AgainstScience.

    You have converted me. Wow, I suddenly believe all that now. It must be a miracle.

    Your little article has made all the injustice worth it.

    I bow down to you. Oh wait, I can't or I'll be considered a kuffar since I can't idolise a human. Sorry mate, against my religion.

     Roll Eyes

    It's funny that you come back here after weeks and post a new article, opening a new chapter before closing the previous chapter by answering the questions addressed to you. Just reinforces what a weak argument you actually have.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #230 - November 18, 2008, 09:48 AM
    He's a pigeon. He wont stick around after the flogging he got last time. I expect he'll just leave a deposit occasionally and fly away before we get loaded up.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #231 - November 18, 2008, 09:52 AM
    Quote from: AgainstCommonSense on November 18, 2008, 07:12 AM
    Peace to u folk.

    Prophet Muhammad(PlaceBullshitUponForum) knew absolutely effin' nuffink about these subjects 100s of years before George Mendel)-

    1. Gene assortment
    2. Inheritable traits of equal numbers in both sexes
    3. Gene linkage trace-able to the first man(Adam)
    4. Genetic inheritance patterns being related in both man and other species

    It is a shame he has been accredited and awarded for his daft "holy" rantings! But I give it to him, he sure could get away with a lot.

    View: http://www.againstscience.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=24 if you want to read some utter rubbish.


    There ya go. All fixed. parrot
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #232 - November 18, 2008, 10:58 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on November 18, 2008, 09:52 AM
    Quote from: AgainstCommonSense on November 18, 2008, 07:12 AM
    Peace to u folk.

    Prophet Muhammad(PlaceBullshitUponForum) knew absolutely effin' nuffink about these subjects 100s of years before George Mendel)-

    1. Gene assortment
    2. Inheritable traits of equal numbers in both sexes
    3. Gene linkage trace-able to the first man(Adam)
    4. Genetic inheritance patterns being related in both man and other species

    It is a shame he has been accredited and awarded for his daft "holy" rantings! But I give it to him, he sure could get away with a lot.

    View: http://www.againstscience.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=24 if you want to read some utter rubbish.


    There ya go. All fixed. parrot


     Cheesy Sounds more acceptable now
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #233 - November 18, 2008, 02:37 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 18, 2008, 09:20 AM
    ..

    It's funny that you come back here after weeks and post a new article, opening a new chapter before closing the previous chapter by answering the questions addressed to you. Just reinforces what a weak argument you actually have.



    Well I come here to teach you.
    I can not do so when you are acting like naughty, stubborn little children.
    It was obvious the one topic all atheists believe they all figured out was the only topic u wished discuss even though evidence is yet not conclusive.
    So since it was obvious u young uns wished to keep beating a horses shadow, and were afraid of being challenged to any other matters where physical evidence and conclusions are already available and abundant.
    As the wiser one, I had to withdraw respectfully. It's not about just creating friction and long threads for entertainment and scores or money or somn, it's about discussing discussable issues intellectually. I do have a day job.

    Thanks and peace and love to you all. I miss u....especially bezzlebub or what's her name.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #234 - November 18, 2008, 02:39 PM
    Quote
    Well I come here to teach you.


    And you have taught us that you don't know what you're talking about on any subject covered so far. Afro
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #235 - November 18, 2008, 05:46 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on November 18, 2008, 02:39 PM
    Quote
    Well I come here to teach you.


    And you have taught us that you don't know what you're talking about on any subject covered so far. Afro


     Afro


    Quote from: AgainstScience on November 18, 2008, 02:37 PM


    Well I come here to teach you.
    I can not do so when you are acting like naughty, stubborn little children...

    So since it was obvious u young uns wished to keep beating a horses shadow...

    As the wiser one, I had to withdraw respectfully...


    Considering your condescending tone, it's a wonder no one has told you to take your "teachings", and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.


    And who are you calling young? You are probably some pimply faced little boy who can't shave yet, with delusions of his own importance. You talk a lot of trash where you can be anonymous, but I doubt you have the testicles to actually show your face.

    You make me laugh. Someone who is wise would have understood that your ideas will get little, if any, support here.


    You would do better to go elsewhere, possibly a forum where the majority are trusting, and have an I.Q. lower than the average houseplant.


    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #236 - November 18, 2008, 07:47 PM
    Where does he conjure all this garbage from?
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #237 - November 18, 2008, 10:27 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on November 18, 2008, 07:47 PM
    Where does he conjure all this garbage from?

    A culture with a total lack of self-criticism and a high dependency on comfortable myth. Like most religions for that matter.
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #238 - November 18, 2008, 10:28 PM
    Correction to the previous post: Like most material written by/for ALL religions.
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Religion got it right before science
     Reply #239 - November 19, 2008, 01:33 AM
    Quote from: AgainstScience on November 18, 2008, 02:37 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on November 18, 2008, 09:20 AM
    ..

    It's funny that you come back here after weeks and post a new article, opening a new chapter before closing the previous chapter by answering the questions addressed to you. Just reinforces what a weak argument you actually have.



    Well I come here to teach you.
    I can not do so when you are acting like naughty, stubborn little children.
    It was obvious the one topic all atheists believe they all figured out was the only topic u wished discuss even though evidence is yet not conclusive.
    So since it was obvious u young uns wished to keep beating a horses shadow, and were afraid of being challenged to any other matters where physical evidence and conclusions are already available and abundant.
    As the wiser one, I had to withdraw respectfully. It's not about just creating friction and long threads for entertainment and scores or money or somn, it's about discussing discussable issues intellectually. I do have a day job.

    Thanks and peace and love to you all. I miss u....especially bezzlebub or what's her name.


    I like being naughty  whistling2
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