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  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #180 - March 05, 2009, 07:38 PM

    Who will be in charge of reeducating Muslims?  What portions of the original Islam will have to be changed and taught to the Muslims?  Will the Muslims want to let go of their beliefs?  If not, will you resort to violence (apparently in your mind, one has no other options here)?  Etc.


    I am not in favour of any sort or organization to reeducate Muslims. Just a free society where ex-Muslims can speak out is enough for me.

    I am not interested in what portions of Islam ppl keep or leave - so long as they are not violent. (Just as I am not out to strike out any parts of the bible).

    I will never resort to violence except to defend myself.

    OK I have answered enough questions. How about you tell me how you would go about reeducating Muslims?

    And you can see my contribution on Youtube -  what contribution you are making?



    Well, thanks for accepting that reeducating Muslims is the same as reforming Islam.

    And yet you claim that you will not resort to violence if the Muslims don't change their minds while at the same time, you claim that the 'destroy Islam' crowd has to resort to violence in doing the exact same thing.

    And before you accuse me of not having any contributions...I have spent a lot of time talking and debating with Muslims on different forums.  
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #181 - March 05, 2009, 07:39 PM

    I think that you are taking the "eradicate" part too literally.


    And don't you think many others will too?

    That's exactly why we need to moderate our language.


    That's a good suggestion Hassan.

    Am glad that you now understand what we have meant all along.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #182 - March 07, 2009, 04:50 PM


    Quote
    How many millions of Jews were killed by Muslims? Any guess?

    As far as I know, millions of Jews were killed by the Jesus freaks, the Christ lovers during the Inquisitions. I have not included the six or twenty million killed in the alleged holocaust,

    Showing your true colors, BMZ?


    First, you do not know me well unless you have been using many nicknames on every site.

    WTF do you mean by writing "Showing your true colours, BMZ?"

    You sit here and at FFI, dripping with your verbal diarhoea against Islam and write tirelessly against Islam, Qur'aan, Muslims and the Prophet and am I supposed to please you and all others by nodding my head in agreement. You are an idiot and a fool if you think that.

    Did you read the entire post? I write tailor-made responses, made-to-measure and to fit like a perfect glove in response to any post that attracts me and I am not obliged to accept your tunnel view or that of others.

    I recollect once you had done something silly at FFI and I sent you a PM under my registered name at FFI, mzbsp
    asking you not to do that kind of thing again.

    Can you show me your true colours? Don't behave like an FFI goon. I write here sometimes when I feel like writing or asking the posters here about something. The posters here are far better than the junk at FFI.

    Don't behave like a bitch by running and jumping here and there.

    If you have any courage, you can write me at Ahmed Bahgat's site FI, but don't go bitching around.

    The above also goes for another idiot who goes by the name Zaephon here.

    Both of you can also write at a site with full freedom, which I have created for FFI goons and other polemicists. There is no moderator, no deletion, no damnation and no banning. Come, write your heart out but be ready to receive too.  Cheesy

    Do Muslims say that the Jews were not killed by Hitler? We dispute the figure and the term. When was the word Holocaust first heard and published? During the war? Tell me!

    www.faithfreedom.org.uk

    I do not carry out personal attacks against any poster and this is the first time, I had to, for you and the one who goes by the name Zaephon. This should suffice and don't expect any more response from me.

    BMZ

  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #183 - March 07, 2009, 05:15 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    I do not carry out personal attacks against any poster and this is the first time, I had to, for you and the one who goes by the name Zaephon. This should suffice and don't expect any more response from me.

    In other words, you are too cowardly to defend your racist ideas in this forum? You are saying that "I do not carry out personal attacks" yet you call me and Aksel "idiot" and "goon," some integrity please?

    Quote from: BMZ
    Do Muslims say that the Jews were not killed by Hitler? We dispute the figure and the term. When was the word Holocaust first heard and published?

    Goodbye, Nazi. We won't miss you.  Roll Eyes

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #184 - March 07, 2009, 05:46 PM


    I write tailor-made responses, made-to-measure and to fit like a perfect glove in response to any post that attracts me


    Oh my! Aren't some people over confident of their writing skills? I doubt even Shakespeare would boast as you do.

    No wonder you follow Allah, for Allah is similarly proud of his poor writing skills, He even has a Surah writing contest in His Quran where he challenges all mortals to produce a better surah than his s*** surahs, then He claims they can't & he'll roast them in hell if they fail!

    And of course He's the judge of his surah writing contest, & He'll naturally prefer His badly written surahs to others.Only Allah can produce such vain & foolish, not to mention fanatic followers.

    Like Deity, like devotee. Roll Eyes

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #185 - March 07, 2009, 06:09 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    I do not carry out personal attacks against any poster and this is the first time, I had to, for you and the one who goes by the name Zaephon. This should suffice and don't expect any more response from me.

    In other words, you are too cowardly to defend your racist ideas in this forum? You are saying that "I do not carry out personal attacks" yet you call me and Aksel "idiot" and "goon," some integrity please?

    Quote from: BMZ
    Do Muslims say that the Jews were not killed by Hitler? We dispute the figure and the term. When was the word Holocaust first heard and published?

    Goodbye, Nazi. We won't miss you.  Roll Eyes


    Denying the term holocaust and not agreeing with the figures, does not make one a racist. Like Aksel, you also do not know me well. I included you in my post because you made a sentence from my post as your signature.

    You should have made my entire post your signature.  Cheesy You would have not lost your respect if you had not done that.

    I do write here and exchange with some sensible posters. Usually, I ignore those who write churlish responses.

    You can see that I am not a coward.

    The rule of the game is very simple. If you feel free to hammer me, my people, my religion, my culture, my God and my Scripture, be ready to get screwed and shoved, regardless of being a Hindu or a Christian or a Jew or an atheist or a Zorat. Be prepared to receive. You can't have it your way.

    You can't be allowed to keep frothing at your mouth all the time and ask me to go brush my teeth.

    Let he/she who has ears, hear this.

    Good Night from Singapore

    BMZ
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #186 - March 07, 2009, 06:43 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    Denying the term holocaust and not agreeing with the figures, does not make one a racist.

    Really? Please do elaborate, we look forward to being enlightened. Also, who wants your respect, dear Islamonazi? Feeling raw about the signature part? If you post absurd and racist venom, you'll get flamed for it. Get over it already.

    Quote from: BMZ
    The rule of the game is very simple. If you feel free to hammer me, my people, my religion, my culture, my God and my Scripture, be ready to get screwed and shoved, regardless of being a Hindu or a Christian or a Jew or an atheist or a Zorat. Be prepared to receive. You can't have it your way.

    In other words, you are as mature as a vindictive child.

    If we piss on your idols, you get to piss on our idols, eh? Fair enough. All this self-righteous rage, your pathetic desire to avenge the attacks on Islam will take you nowhere. Indulge yourself if you like. Attack infidels, attack their values --this is what Jihad is all about. But you cannot change the fact that there are intelligent and educated people in this forum who were born into Islam, yet who became apostates through their own free will. Why? Because Islam is utter crap.

    Quote from: BMZ
    be ready to get screwed and shoved, regardless of being a Hindu or a Christian or a Jew or an atheist or a Zorat.

    I don't really fit into any of the categories, so how do you intend to piss on my idols? I am an ex-Muslim, and this is my identity. I am an Infidel, an enemy of Islam: this is my religion now. The only idol I have ever cherished in my life was the one and only idol of Islam --namely Mohammad, that bloodthirsty pedophile tyrant who also masquerades as Allah. Now I have no idols.

    I have betrayed Islam. I have eaten pork, drank alcohol, and even burnt a copy of the Quran. And that pathetic goddess Allah didn't show up to punish my crime! I support female rights, freedom of religion, the West, India, Israel, and all minority groups suffering in the Islamic landscape. And you know what? I don't feel an ounce of regret! Leaving Islam was the best decision of my life.

    Even though Shariah calls for my death, I am perfectly happy and well! Does that make you giddy, BMZ?

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #187 - March 07, 2009, 08:27 PM

    Nice one Zaephon!

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  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #188 - March 08, 2009, 10:45 AM

    Quote

    Wasn't it a long hard struggle for the west to become as liberal and "freedom loving" as they are? We do not give any time for muslims to do so. "They must conform now!"



    I'm not even going to go into that because I've had enough of hearing this retarded "relativism" arguement.

    Well then fuck you too Smiley.

    A bit slow on the note here but it may pay to remember that the staff can hand out smites while using smileys too. Just a thought.  Please consider.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #189 - March 08, 2009, 10:48 AM


    Quote
    How many millions of Jews were killed by Muslims? Any guess?

    As far as I know, millions of Jews were killed by the Jesus freaks, the Christ lovers during the Inquisitions. I have not included the six or twenty million killed in the alleged holocaust,

    Showing your true colors, BMZ?


    First, you do not know me well unless you have been using many nicknames on every site.

    WTF do you mean by writing "Showing your true colours, BMZ?"

    You sit here and at FFI, dripping with your verbal diarhoea against Islam and write tirelessly against Islam, Qur'aan, Muslims and the Prophet and am I supposed to please you and all others by nodding my head in agreement. You are an idiot and a fool if you think that.

    Did you read the entire post? I write tailor-made responses, made-to-measure and to fit like a perfect glove in response to any post that attracts me and I am not obliged to accept your tunnel view or that of others.

    I recollect once you had done something silly at FFI and I sent you a PM under my registered name at FFI, mzbsp
    asking you not to do that kind of thing again.

    Can you show me your true colours? Don't behave like an FFI goon. I write here sometimes when I feel like writing or asking the posters here about something. The posters here are far better than the junk at FFI.

    Don't behave like a bitch by running and jumping here and there.

    If you have any courage, you can write me at Ahmed Bahgat's site FI, but don't go bitching around.

    The above also goes for another idiot who goes by the name Zaephon here.

    Both of you can also write at a site with full freedom, which I have created for FFI goons and other polemicists. There is no moderator, no deletion, no damnation and no banning. Come, write your heart out but be ready to receive too.  Cheesy

    Do Muslims say that the Jews were not killed by Hitler? We dispute the figure and the term. When was the word Holocaust first heard and published? During the war? Tell me!

    www.faithfreedom.org.uk

    I do not carry out personal attacks against any poster and this is the first time, I had to, for you and the one who goes by the name Zaephon. This should suffice and don't expect any more response from me.

    BMZ

    Would you mind making your points with a few less gratuitous insults attached? Thank you.

    Now, back on topic, would you mind explaining why you dispute the numbers of Jews killed by the Nazis, bearing in mind that it is one of the best documented occurrences in modern history?

    Would you also mind explaining why you dispute the term "Holocaust"? I would have thought the term itself, unlike the events it refers to, was so unimportant as to not be worth disputing.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #190 - March 11, 2009, 01:15 PM

    Quote from: Osmanthus
    Would you mind making your points with a few less gratuitous insults attached? Thank you.

    He has no point Osmanthus, BMZ is just a semi-professional troll/undignified cheerleader.

    I have no intention of joining bag of measles at his highly touted unmoderated forum; he does not matter to me except as a source of disruption and irritation.

    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #191 - March 13, 2009, 06:37 PM

    Quote from: Osmanthus
    Would you mind making your points with a few less gratuitous insults attached? Thank you.

    He has no point Osmanthus, BMZ is just a semi-professional troll/undignified cheerleader.

    I have no intention of joining bag of measles at his highly touted unmoderated forum; he does not matter to me except as a source of disruption and irritation.


    Aksel Ankersen,

    In a face to face discussion or debate with me before a sensible audience, You would not last even fifteen minutes, before the audience bursts into laughter at your so-called copy and paste knowledge of Arabic and you will run away. Ali Sina, Abul Kasem, Kamran Mirza and others may, at the most last ten minutes.  Cheesy

    I have created that forum for all FFI goons and that includes you and other Christian polemicists. Now that I have decided not to write at that site, do not write about me there at all. Do you understand? If you do wish, write on www.faithfreedom.org.uk and if you cannot, then just shut up.

    WTF do you know about Arabic? There are readers here, who know Arabic and they can easily make out that you do not know any Arabic at all. You are simply a scumbag, who has no manners and does not know how to behave.

    From now on, do not write about me anywhere. I do write here once in a while, when I have to make a point. But I have never written anything bad about you behind your back. Stop behaving like a self-loathing person.  Cheesy

    I have a huge important task ahead of me and I have no more time for any of you FFI goons. It is no use bitching behind my back.

    Do not bother to reply.   Cheesy

    BMZ

     

  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #192 - March 13, 2009, 07:12 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    In a face to face discussion or debate with me before a sensible audience, You would not last even fifteen minutes, before the audience bursts into laughter at your so-called copy and paste knowledge of Arabic and you will run away. Ali Sina, Abul Kasem, Kamran Mirza and others may, at the most last ten minutes

    Talk about arrogance. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #193 - March 13, 2009, 07:32 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    WTF do you know about Arabic? There are readers here, who know Arabic and they can easily make out that you do not know any Arabic at all. You are simply a scumbag, who has no manners and does not know how to behave.


    Smite 1 - For personal abuse of another forum member

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #194 - March 13, 2009, 07:35 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    In a face to face discussion or debate with me before a sensible audience, You would not last even fifteen minutes, before the audience bursts into laughter at your so-called copy and paste knowledge of Arabic and you will run away. Ali Sina, Abul Kasem, Kamran Mirza and others may, at the most last ten minutes

    Talk about arrogance. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


    The funny thing is, this guy condemned Aksel for his Arabic, yet he comes from a country and a subcontinent whereby only a small proportion of even the most knowledgable Islamic scholars know any arabic whatsoever, a place where the children and adults are taught to learn the Quran by heart without understanding a word. Hypocrisy!

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #195 - March 14, 2009, 01:09 PM

    Hey BMZ, I just read something that made my day that I wanted you to look at and comment on. 

    You condemn FFI so much and it's all criticisms and other name-calling tactics and whatever, yet you love to visit there. How much do you love it? Well, recently a poster called Zulbrain (yes, the name is grammatically incorrect-it must be a Pakistani!  Cheesy) joined up and pretended to be a nice Arabic girl, 'she' spoke nicely to people and pretended to be friendly to Khalil and I among others who she found respectful and knowledgable. She also delibrately mispelt words to try and hide her identity. Zulbrain, turned out to be BMZ! Cheesy

    Not only was Zulbrain BMZ, but on the list of banned members down at FFI, about half of them are actual reincarnations of BMZ! Why does this pathetic weedy man spend his time trolling FFI if he hates it? Why does he say it's a failure but try to ensure that he is on there refuting Ex-Muslims? What is his real obsession with Ali Sina et al? Is he the KingTut/Jihadi/Sona of FFI?

    Just some food for thought, here is the list of banned members on the new FFI (IE-since January 09) and it shows how busy BMZ has been in the last three months. Next time BMZ wants to condemn anyone here like Aksel or Zaephon, just refer him back to this comment:

    Quote

    Banned members
    by M ? Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:28 pm

    BMZ / ghostbusting - incarnation of previously banned member, trolling, multinicking

    madsingh - incarnation of uptoyou/madguru007/...

    AMAZIGH - incarnation of Berber

    kalam - incarnation of BMZ

    tariq4islam4ever - threats

    ISLAM- spamming, trolling

    H5N1 - perviously banned member, spamming, trolling

    emob - H5N1

    Scorpion - trolling

    Yassine - antisemitism, calls for violence

    life - spamming

    Attairatularbia - BMZ

    CoolView - BMZ

    nochrist - trolling

    amanpour - spam

    Amethyst - spam

    Islamic_Science - spamming, trolling

    salah - trolling, incarnation of BMZ

    pussycat - BMZ 

    zulbrain - incarnation of BMZ

    by M ? Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:32 pm



    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org//viewtopic.php?f=49&t=42

    A whooping 7 reincarnations! And the last one survived for a month or so before being banned again!!

    Wow, you should submit this info to Guiness, they might be interested, there might be a category for "Most persistant troll"! I would nominate you!

    How many proxy servers have you been through now, BMZ? Cheesy




    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #196 - March 15, 2009, 01:38 AM

    Aksel Ankersen,

    In a face to face discussion or debate with me before a sensible audience, You would not last even fifteen minutes, before the audience bursts into laughter at your so-called copy and paste knowledge of Arabic and you will run away. Ali Sina, Abul Kasem, Kamran Mirza and others may, at the most last ten minutes.  Cheesy

    I have created that forum for all FFI goons and that includes you and other Christian polemicists. Now that I have decided not to write at that site, do not write about me there at all. Do you understand? If you do wish, write on www.faithfreedom.org.uk and if you cannot, then just shut up.

    WTF do you know about Arabic? There are readers here, who know Arabic and they can easily make out that you do not know any Arabic at all. You are simply a scumbag, who has no manners and does not know how to behave.

    From now on, do not write about me anywhere. I do write here once in a while, when I have to make a point. But I have never written anything bad about you behind your back. Stop behaving like a self-loathing person.  Cheesy

    I have a huge important task ahead of me and I have no more time for any of you FFI goons. It is no use bitching behind my back.

    Do not bother to reply.   Cheesy

    BMZ

    I simply don't care all that much if you think I know Arabic or not; I don't care what you write on your website.

    If you attack me on a credible board I will have to respond, but I'm not going to go to the ends of the earth or at least the internet to debate you on your website.

    The Arabs actually have a saying:

    لو أن كل كلب عوى القمته حجراً ....... لأصبح مثقالُ كل حجرٍ بدينارِ

    "If you stone each barking dog... stones will become expensive."

    Now that's very cruel to dogs... but appropriate for attention seeking trolls.

    The reason I call you measles is that you keep popping up on FFI like a recurrent rash and with no goal except to annoy people, by disrupting threads and writing profanity about the bible or racist comments. Most people who know you from FFI will agree:

    Quote from: BMZ's latest incarnation
    This is the side which chsristians do not wish to read. If you raed stories, paul, the midget would be on all fours and timothy would sodomise him. Paul and barnabas had a fight over the boys wehn paul failed to get mark. Gospels were claened up of the filth much later.

    Teh biblical jesus was definitely a gay. Why would a teen lied down in his lap right on teh table? Teh gays managed to give a religion. Chuckle.


    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #197 - March 15, 2009, 01:41 AM

    Quote from: BMZ
    WTF do you know about Arabic? There are readers here, who know Arabic and they can easily make out that you do not know any Arabic at all. You are simply a scumbag, who has no manners and does not know how to behave.


    Smite 1 - For personal abuse of another forum member

    In fairness, Cheetah, I also insulted BMZ... I cannot stand people who are simultaneously whingers and ideological supremacists.

    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #198 - March 15, 2009, 01:43 AM

    Quote from: FinallyFree
    Wow, you should submit this info to Guiness, they might be interested, there might be a category for "Most persistant troll"! I would nominate you!

     
    I write on Wikipedia and some of the trolls go up to hundreds of reincarnations...  wacko Policing wiki is a big job.

    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

    -Sayyid Qutb, Milestones
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #199 - March 15, 2009, 01:51 AM

    Quote from: BMZ
    WTF do you know about Arabic? There are readers here, who know Arabic and they can easily make out that you do not know any Arabic at all. You are simply a scumbag, who has no manners and does not know how to behave.


    Smite 1 - For personal abuse of another forum member

    In fairness, Cheetah, I also insulted BMZ... I cannot stand people who are simultaneously whingers and ideological supremacists.


    Well, don't do it again, or we'll smite you too.  There are plenty of other forums on which you and BMZ can sling insults at each other, don't bring it here, thanx.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Ex-Muslim Liberals, Please Wait a Minute!!
     Reply #200 - March 15, 2009, 02:10 AM

    Quote from: FinallyFree
    Why does this pathetic weedy man spend his time trolling FFI if he hates it?


    And ditto to you FF.  By all means attack the views in BMZ's posts if you disagree with them, but leave the personal insults out of it.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
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