A Question to Ex-Muslims Only

Previous page 1 ... 5 6 78 9 ... 14 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #180 - April 03, 2009, 02:04 PM

Quote from: Submissive bob
sky just took a day and a half to respond to BMZ!

Understandable, since the guy needs constant coaching from his trainers.

The poor guy is even linking to Arabic websites that he can't understand.

His (or Emerald's) offence is dependant on forcing BMZ to take a position that he does not accept.

But even if this first line of offence was successful (which it will never be), your second line of offence is equally flawed.

I took a day and a half because My pc was down. I made that post within hours after I got my pc fixed. More ever what sort of logic are you using here? Is Emerald forcing BMZ?? What BMZ thinks or considers doesnt matter here. What matters is whether he is right or not . Unfortunately for him HE isnt and thats why People should force him to accept what is right. His own friend ahmed bahgat who is currently helping him must be pulling his hair off because he forgot that 4 months back he was giving arabic tuitions and claiming proudly that Khursi means chair and Arsh means throne. He has accepted that both are physical entities. I think you need to take a look at your post again.

Btw I providing links in arabic is understandable because the term of the debate allowed me to take help from any arabic speaker. BMz has to accept whatever arabic speakers here say otherwise its like saying I am right because I believe I am right.That is pure nonsense. !! He couldnt even write one sentence properly . He had someone telling him to correct it . (mostly ahmed).
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #181 - April 03, 2009, 04:38 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 02, 2009, 05:17 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 02, 2009, 05:15 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 02, 2009, 05:05 PM
@Submissive bob

How can you accuse me of playing word games ? Am i really playing the word games or is he doing that? Think for yourself. Btw I shall refute you , Islame and Zaephon on the issue of spirituality. YOu thought my case was weak because this is a matter relating to spirituality. Right? I am waiting for the appropriate time.

We're all ears. You guys dont need to waste time on countering our commentary, its ad-hoc and will vary according to each post., you guys just stick to the ringside. The true winner will be the last man left standing having cornered his opponent.

May the best man win.

Ok I am sorry but the comments are irking me.When I dont even understand how can you accuse me of playing word games? You shall soon see who is trying to deceive and playing the word games.

Hello, SNB

Bold emphasis is mine. I hope now you realise how the silly comments irked and irritated me at FFI? Shall we say, "Karma!"?

BMZ
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #182 - April 03, 2009, 04:42 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 04:38 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 02, 2009, 05:17 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 02, 2009, 05:15 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 02, 2009, 05:05 PM
@Submissive bob

How can you accuse me of playing word games ? Am i really playing the word games or is he doing that? Think for yourself. Btw I shall refute you , Islame and Zaephon on the issue of spirituality. YOu thought my case was weak because this is a matter relating to spirituality. Right? I am waiting for the appropriate time.

We're all ears. You guys dont need to waste time on countering our commentary, its ad-hoc and will vary according to each post., you guys just stick to the ringside. The true winner will be the last man left standing having cornered his opponent.

May the best man win.

Ok I am sorry but the comments are irking me.When I dont even understand how can you accuse me of playing word games? You shall soon see who is trying to deceive and playing the word games.

Hello, SNB

Bold emphasis is mine. I hope now you realise how the silly comments irked and irritated me at FFI? Sahl we say, "Karma!"?

BMZ

THe point is were they really silly or was it that you didnt like them?
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #183 - April 03, 2009, 04:47 PM

Quote
So, please do not provide references from not-so-qualified men to me. You have to get someone who knows more. I am not discussing market or street language.

Why dont you just give it up? I read your response and I found it least sensible. BTw SO you want to say your friend Ahmed Bahgat whom you always praise of knowing ARabic too is a fool ? Btw IF you are contradicting the arabic speakers then you are wrong and not them. You have to accept what they say or else there is no point in debating. You are dictating what is right and what is not. !
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #184 - April 03, 2009, 04:49 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 02:04 PM

Quote from: Submissive bob
sky just took a day and a half to respond to BMZ!

Understandable, since the guy needs constant coaching from his trainers.

The poor guy is even linking to Arabic websites that he can't understand.

His (or Emerald's) offence is dependant on forcing BMZ to take a position that he does not accept.

But even if this first line of offence was successful (which it will never be), your second line of offence is equally flawed.

I took a day and a half because My pc was down. I made that post within hours after I got my pc fixed. More ever what sort of logic are you using here? Is Emerald forcing BMZ?? What BMZ thinks or considers doesnt matter here. What matters is whether he is right or not . Unfortunately for him HE isnt and thats why People should force him to accept what is right. His own friend ahmed bahgat who is currently helping him must be pulling his hair off because he forgot that 4 months back he was giving arabic tuitions and claiming proudly that Khursi means chair and Arsh means throne. He has accepted that both are physical entities. I think you need to take a look at your post again.

Btw I providing links in arabic is understandable because the term of the debate allowed me to take help from any arabic speaker. BMz has to accept whatever arabic speakers here say otherwise its like saying I am right because I believe I am right.That is pure nonsense. !! He couldnt even write one sentence properly . He had someone telling him to correct it . (mostly ahmed).

SNB,

Do not ASSUME. Because if you assume you are making an ASS of U and ME.

I am the lone ranger here, while a topic has already been exclusively opened for helping and feeding you at FFI:

Here is the link: http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1697

And I knew you would bring it up and you just did. I was actually waiting for you and you just did that in your 2nd post today. That is why I told you that you have shot your own foot. If I have time, I will demolish that post tomorrow, InshaAllah.

This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

For your information, I write my own thoughts.

BMZ
- charlesmartel
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #185 - April 03, 2009, 04:52 PM

Quote from: BMZ
I hope now you realise how the silly comments irked and irritated me at FFI? Sahl we say, "Karma!"?

BMZ

So are your friends here trying to extract revenge on your behalf?

Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #186 - April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 04:49 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 02:04 PM

Quote from: Submissive bob
sky just took a day and a half to respond to BMZ!

Understandable, since the guy needs constant coaching from his trainers.

The poor guy is even linking to Arabic websites that he can't understand.

His (or Emerald's) offence is dependant on forcing BMZ to take a position that he does not accept.

But even if this first line of offence was successful (which it will never be), your second line of offence is equally flawed.

I took a day and a half because My pc was down. I made that post within hours after I got my pc fixed. More ever what sort of logic are you using here? Is Emerald forcing BMZ?? What BMZ thinks or considers doesnt matter here. What matters is whether he is right or not . Unfortunately for him HE isnt and thats why People should force him to accept what is right. His own friend ahmed bahgat who is currently helping him must be pulling his hair off because he forgot that 4 months back he was giving arabic tuitions and claiming proudly that Khursi means chair and Arsh means throne. He has accepted that both are physical entities. I think you need to take a look at your post again.

Btw I providing links in arabic is understandable because the term of the debate allowed me to take help from any arabic speaker. BMz has to accept whatever arabic speakers here say otherwise its like saying I am right because I believe I am right.That is pure nonsense. !! He couldnt even write one sentence properly . He had someone telling him to correct it . (mostly ahmed).

SNB,

Do not ASSUME. Because if you assume you are making an ASS of U and ME.

I am the lone ranger here, while a topic has already been exclusively opened for helping and feeding you at FFI:

Here is the link: http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1697

And I knew you would bring it up and you just did. I was actually waiting for you and you just did that in your 2nd post today. That is why I told you that you have shot your own foot. If I have time, I will demolish that post tomorrow, InshaAllah.

This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

For your information, I write my own thoughts.

BMZ

I agree with ahmed whenever he is right. Whatever he brought up is backed up by arabic dictionaries. I aint just backing him up . IF native arabic speakers dont agree with you the game is over for you. Claiming hollow victories wont do any good to you. You would demolish? I saw your recent post but found pathetic to the core.Anyway bear in mind if you go against the arabic speakers I am not going to accept it.
- Saif Rahman
- Ex-Muslim
- Je suis Haram
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #187 - April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM

BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

My Book
My Blog
- charlesmartel
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #188 - April 03, 2009, 04:54 PM

Quote from: BMZ
This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #189 - April 03, 2009, 04:56 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 04:47 PM
Quote
So, please do not provide references from not-so-qualified men to me. You have to get someone who knows more. I am not discussing market or street language.

Why dont you just give it up? I read your response and I found it least sensible. BTw SO you want to say your friend Ahmed Bahgat whom you always praise of knowing ARabic too is a fool ? Btw IF you are contradicting the arabic speakers then you are wrong and not them. You have to accept what they say or else there is no point in debating. You are dictating what is right and what is not. !

Are you debating me or Ahmed? When he debated with you guys, all of you FFIers were against him!

I find this hilarious. You are answerable to me. I am not answerable to Ahmed here.

Ahmed and I can differ. No problem there. Why do I detect such a love, respect and affection for Ahmed now?

You will have to follow my line of arguments and questioning.

Cheers
BMZ
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #190 - April 03, 2009, 04:56 PM

Quote from: charlesmartel on April 03, 2009, 04:54 PM
Quote from: BMZ
This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

I knew you would enjoy that, Charles.

Good night
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #191 - April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM

Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z
- charlesmartel
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #192 - April 03, 2009, 05:03 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 04:56 PM
Quote from: charlesmartel on April 03, 2009, 04:54 PM
Quote from: BMZ
This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

I knew you would enjoy that, Charles.

Good night

See, humor is humor; it doesn't matter where it comes from. I guffawed because this is the first time I see you disagreeing (or not readily agreeing) with Ahmed. And you turned it on us so nicely

Islam is a funny religion which is misunderstood by its scholars and correctly understood by ordinary Muslims.
Faith is keeping your eyes shut when looking at the world, and/or keeping your eyes open only for the beauty of the world.
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #193 - April 03, 2009, 05:03 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 04:56 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 04:47 PM
Quote
So, please do not provide references from not-so-qualified men to me. You have to get someone who knows more. I am not discussing market or street language.

Why dont you just give it up? I read your response and I found it least sensible. BTw SO you want to say your friend Ahmed Bahgat whom you always praise of knowing ARabic too is a fool ? Btw IF you are contradicting the arabic speakers then you are wrong and not them. You have to accept what they say or else there is no point in debating. You are dictating what is right and what is not. !

Are you debating me or Ahmed? When he debated with you guys, all of you FFIers were against him!

I find this hilarious. You are answerable to me. I am not answerable to Ahmed here.

Ahmed and I can differ. No problem there. Why do I detect such a love, respect and affection for Ahmed now?

You will have to follow my line of arguments and questioning.

Cheers
BMZ

How pathetic you are. .I dont support him just because he is a native speaker. Whatever he says is backed up by arabic dictionaries.Emerald too has provided sufficient explantion and more importantly backed himself using proofs unlike you who is making hollow claims .Emerald has asked you to show a single arabic lexicon that tells us that kursi means power etc e tc/

You couldnt write a single sentence properly in arabic and on what basis do you claim that you know more arabic than both of them? I contradict Ahmed whenever he is wrong and accept his claims whenever they are logical. You may ask him. ITs not about emotion. Your line of questioning is faulty and you are not understanding this basic. Ahmed atleast leaves the place of debate whenever he is wrong unlike you.
- Saif Rahman
- Ex-Muslim
- Je suis Haram
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #194 - April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

My Book
My Blog
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #195 - April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM

Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?
- Saif Rahman
- Ex-Muslim
- Je suis Haram
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #196 - April 03, 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

I dont want to comment on who is right & wrong, because I would like to remain impartial here. However if you feel this is true and it is, you should bring this up with him in your one & one and if it is, then you will be able to corner him on it. If it isnt, then you wont be able to.

My Book
My Blog
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #197 - April 03, 2009, 05:22 PM

Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:20 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

I dont want to comment on who is right & wrong, because I would like to remain impartial here. However if you feel this is true and it is, you should bring this up with him in your one & one and if it is, then you will be able to corner him on it. If it isnt, then you wont be able to.

I have already brought up but if he isnt going to accept it then what is the point of debate? Should I accept his wild claims just because he thinks so ?
- Saif Rahman
- Ex-Muslim
- Je suis Haram
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #198 - April 03, 2009, 05:54 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:22 PM
I have already brought up but if he isnt going to accept it then what is the point of debate? Should I accept his wild claims just because he thinks so ?

That is the whole point of the debate. If you feel that they are wild assertions, then you will be able to corner your opponent. Like I said before, if they are not wild assertions then you wont be able to. If that is the case, you will have to agree to disagree, & move onto something you feel is a stronger point.

I feel BMZ still has a chip on his shoulder from whatever his experience was at FFI, but he is different to Ahmed who is beyond reason.

Personally I dont think the question proves much either way, other than who has the best argumentative skills.

My Book
My Blog
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #199 - April 03, 2009, 07:15 PM

Quote from: charlesmartel on April 03, 2009, 05:03 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 04:56 PM
Quote from: charlesmartel on April 03, 2009, 04:54 PM
Quote from: BMZ
This is the first time I see all FFI guys agreeing with Ahmed.

I knew you would enjoy that, Charles.

Good nightjavascript:void(0);

See, humor is humor; it doesn't matter where it comes from. I guffawed because this is the first time I see you disagreeing (or not readily agreeing) with Ahmed. And you turned it on us so nicely

Humour is humour but skynightblaze does not appear to have it. He is still in a shock and denial.

BMZ
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #200 - April 03, 2009, 07:34 PM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

Hello, SNB

Your debate happens to be with me. You challenged me and Ahmed Bahgat did not. Leave him out of the picture. Anyway, all of you guys never respected or extended any courtesy to him at FFI.

I am taking you through a different landscape. I did mention the typo-error.

That simple sentence was the litmus test and your side failed and flopped! Period.

None of you can challenge that litmus test. You have my assurance on that.

Were the following translators and scholars native Arabs or native speakers of Arabic? Here are the names:

Maulana Muhammad Ali, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Maulana Maududi, Muhammad Asad, Ta'alim Ali (T. B. Irving), Arberry,
Sarwar, Sir Zafarullah Khan and many others whom I have not named.

My response to your 2nd post will be very painful. Please start thinking of another topic, if you like.

May the dark side be with you!

BMZ
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #201 - April 03, 2009, 07:40 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 07:34 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

Hello, SNB

Your debate happens to be with me. You challenged me and Ahmed Bahgat did not. Leave him out of the picture. Anyway, all of you guys never respected or extended any courtesy to him at FFI.

I am taking you through a different landscape. I did mention the typo-error.

That simple sentence was the litmus test and your side failed and flopped! Period.

None of you can challenge that litmus test. You have my assurance on that.

Were the following translators and scholars native Arabs or native speakers of Arabic? Here are the names:

Maulana Muhammad Ali, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Maulana Maududi, Muhammad Asad, Ta'alim Ali (T. B. Irving), Arberry,
Sarwar, Sir Zafarullah Khan and many others whom I have not named.

My response to your 2nd post will be very painful. Please start thinking of another topic, if you like.

May the dark side be with you!

BMZ

Laughs. I have already told you if you are still using the same argument that Kursi is power etc etc I am not going to respond. Its not the question of native arabic speakers.ITs the question of what arabic language says. SO far you have demonstrated nothing that is in favour of you. IF you dont accept any arabic speaking person then there is no point of debate as you are deciding yourself that you are right.
- Saif Rahman
- Ex-Muslim
- Je suis Haram
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #202 - April 03, 2009, 07:44 PM

Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 07:34 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM

BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

Quote
all of you guys never respected or extended any courtesy to him at FFI.

What has that got to do with the way he treated us all here? Have you read his posts here yet - do you agree with them? He behaves & writes like a 3 year old child! I would be gravely embarrassed to call him an accomplice, and as a product of Islam, he does little to show its good side - in fact he is a perfect stereotype of Islam gone wrong.

My Book
My Blog
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #203 - April 03, 2009, 08:13 PM

Greetings & Welcome, Mr. X

I refer to the following exchange in the Comment Section:

Quote from: Mr. X
Quote from: FinallyFree
on Today at 01:37:39 PM
See how the mature and decisive Bob mocks me and uses personal attacks rather than addressing my points? Isn't this proof that he is in it for the BMZ?

Anyway, welcome Mr X! You have conveniantly arrived at an interesting time.

You also seem to rehash BMZ's invalid argument. No one with any sort of brain would believe that a Singapori with limited second language Arabic could understand what a Saudi Arabian native speaker couldn't. That is all.

Also, Mr X (BMZ) thanks for showing up at the right time and showing the good folks here how much of a troll you really are, you usually save your multinicking for FFI-but I'm glad the people here can see your true colours.

Regards.

ROFL!!

dance

Silly.. I don't know this Guy. For your kind information, We have Lecturers and Scholars from Indonesia, Southafrica, India and Pakistan teaching Saudi and boys from all nationalities HOW to understand the Quranic arabic. This is the miracle of Qur'an.

Let me expose your "True" colours first.

This is my number +966504301761

Call NOW!

Waiting

Mr. X from Jeddah, a Saudi Arabian.

Thank you very much for the clarification. Ali Sina's FFI (Faith Freedom International) members are famous for having dozens of nicknames and keep on writing to 'themselves' and even Ali Sina writes e-mails to himself and creates debates with unknown characters.

FFI members, present here, come from the typical FFI culture which promotes negative thoughts. Please pardon some FFI goons, who have been rude to you. I am used to it.

The FFI culture does not allow it's members to feel any remorse, so please do not expect to hear the word, Sorry!
Besides Islamophobia, FFI is now suffering from BMZ-phobia. I have always reminded FFI posters not make an ass of themsleves, when they assume.

I do hope the Mods here will take a note of this and let everyone see FinallyFree's true colours. I live in Singapore.

Salaams
Baig M Z
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #204 - April 04, 2009, 03:28 AM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 07:40 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 07:34 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

Hello, SNB

Your debate happens to be with me. You challenged me and Ahmed Bahgat did not. Leave him out of the picture. Anyway, all of you guys never respected or extended any courtesy to him at FFI.

I am taking you through a different landscape. I did mention the typo-error.

That simple sentence was the litmus test and your side failed and flopped! Period.

None of you can challenge that litmus test. You have my assurance on that.

Were the following translators and scholars native Arabs or native speakers of Arabic? Here are the names:

Maulana Muhammad Ali, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Maulana Maududi, Muhammad Asad, Ta'alim Ali (T. B. Irving), Arberry,
Sarwar, Sir Zafarullah Khan and many others whom I have not named.

My response to your 2nd post will be very painful. Please start thinking of another topic, if you like.

May the dark side be with you!

BMZ

Laughs. I have already told you if you are still using the same argument that Kursi is power etc etc I am not going to respond. Its not the question of native arabic speakers.ITs the question of what arabic language says. SO far you have demonstrated nothing that is in favour of you. IF you dont accept any arabic speaking person then there is no point of debate as you are deciding yourself that you are right.

When one challenges another for a debate, the debate must go on. Do you wish to call it quits? I have still to respond to your 2nd post of yesterday.

It is not the question of what any language says. I gave you an example from English language. If I say, "I will come down upon you like a tonne of bricks", it does not mean that I weigh a tonne or that I am a tonne of bricks.

Will you then take it as literal?

If you wish to continue, fine. If you don't, then please proceed with the next alleged 'contradition' or 'error'.

Cheers
BMZ
- skynightblaze
- Member
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #205 - April 04, 2009, 03:37 AM

Quote from: BMZ on April 04, 2009, 03:28 AM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 07:40 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 07:34 PM
Quote from: skynightblaze on April 03, 2009, 05:12 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: BMZ on April 03, 2009, 05:00 PM
Quote from: IsLame on April 03, 2009, 04:53 PM
BMZ - is Ahmed your friend? Have you seen some of his posts on COEM?

Hello, Islame

If you are talking about Ahmed Bahgat, then he is a friend although we have never met.
No, I have never read his posts here.

Good night from Singapore
Baig M Z

Take a look at them, and tell me whether he is still someone you hold in regard

hello Islame I ask you to be fair here.

Why did we keep the condition that whenever BMz posts in arabic Arabic speakers would interrupt and correct him if necessary? Emerald is a native arabic speaker unlike BMZ. One should see whether native arabic speakers are posting correctly too.Emerald backed up himself using proofs while BMz is merely ranting.What is the point of debate in a case where he is not going to accept whatever arabic speakers here are saying?
Btw Ahmed bahgat too agrees with Emerald . Now tell me why should anyone take this person BMz seriously who couldnt write one single sentence properly in arabic and doesnt back up his posts?

Hello, SNB

Your debate happens to be with me. You challenged me and Ahmed Bahgat did not. Leave him out of the picture. Anyway, all of you guys never respected or extended any courtesy to him at FFI.

I am taking you through a different landscape. I did mention the typo-error.

That simple sentence was the litmus test and your side failed and flopped! Period.

None of you can challenge that litmus test. You have my assurance on that.

Were the following translators and scholars native Arabs or native speakers of Arabic? Here are the names:

Maulana Muhammad Ali, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Maulana Maududi, Muhammad Asad, Ta'alim Ali (T. B. Irving), Arberry,
Sarwar, Sir Zafarullah Khan and many others whom I have not named.

My response to your 2nd post will be very painful. Please start thinking of another topic, if you like.

May the dark side be with you!

BMZ

Laughs. I have already told you if you are still using the same argument that Kursi is power etc etc I am not going to respond. Its not the question of native arabic speakers.ITs the question of what arabic language says. SO far you have demonstrated nothing that is in favour of you. IF you dont accept any arabic speaking person then there is no point of debate as you are deciding yourself that you are right.

When one challenges another for a debate, the debate must go on. Do you wish to call it quits? I have still to respond to your 2nd post of yesterday.

It is not the question of what any language says. I gave you an example from English language. If I say, "I will come down upon you like a tonne of bricks", it does not mean that I weigh a tonne or that I am a tonne of bricks.

Will you then take it as literal?

If you wish to continue, fine. If you don't, then please proceed with the next alleged 'contradition' or 'error'.

Cheers
BMZ

I hate dishonesty. You are being dishonest here in translating the meaning of "Kursi" . IF you are doing that despite no arabic speaker agreeing with you then what is the point of debate? Why did we keep a condition that arabic speakers may interrupt the debate when you say something regarding arabic?IT makes no sense since you have already decided you are right and you are not going to accept what they say .

Btw how can you compare the above verses in english with arabic? DOes arabic kursi allow a connotative meaning? The answer is no so there is no reason why we take it as connotative.
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #206 - April 04, 2009, 03:48 AM

Quote from: skynightblaze on April 04, 2009, 03:37 AM

I hate dishonesty. You are being dishonest here in translating the meaning of "Kursi" . IF you are doing that despite no arabic speaker agreeing with you then what is the point of debate? Why did we keep a condition that arabic speakers may interrupt the debate when you say something regarding arabic?IT makes no sense since you have already decided you are right and you are not going to accept what they say .

Btw how can you compare the above verses in english with arabic? DOes arabic kursi allow a connotative meaning? The answer is no so there is no reason why we take it as connotative.

Same here. I hate dishonesty and that is why, I accepted your challenge. Late last night, there was a gentleman from Saudi Arabia, by the name Mr. X, who agreed with me.

Why do you not accept that Arabic speaker's view?

I will explain more in the debate section as we go along, provided you wish to continue or alternatively you may start discussing something else.

BMZ
- Zaephon
- Ex-Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #207 - April 04, 2009, 06:42 AM

Yes, I hate dishonesty too. I hate people who deny the Holocaust saying that they will bring some irrefutable evidence, then cower from discussing their pathetic opinions.

Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
- BMZ
- Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #208 - April 04, 2009, 07:04 AM

Quote from: Zaephon on April 04, 2009, 06:42 AM
Yes, I hate dishonesty too. I hate people who deny the Holocaust saying that they will bring some irrefutable evidence, then cower from discussing their pathetic opinions.

You better discuss the "Holocaust" of the Armenians and others. I never cower from anything. When I find a topic will lead to intellectual masturbation, I do not entertain.

By the way, have you produced and compared the Jewish population in German-occupied Europe just before and after the war? Have you produced any charts or references or proofs in that topic? I will take a look after the current debate is over.

Cheers
BMZ
- Zaephon
- Ex-Muslim
- offline
Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
Reply #209 - April 04, 2009, 07:15 AM

Quote from: BMZ
You better discuss the "Holocaust" of the Armenians and others.

I am a staunch supporter of Armenian rights and the recognition of the Armenian Genocide. So your emotional blackmail falls to deaf ears.

You specifically mentioned that you would bring up proof regarding your Holohoax theory. Heartbomb provided some statistics, too. I am waiting.

Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
Previous page 1 ... 5 6 78 9 ... 14 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »