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 Topic: what is important to you now, o ex-muslims?

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  • Re: what is important to you now, o ex-muslims?
     Reply #30 - May 27, 2009, 12:22 PM



    Overall: 3.5/5

    19 people gave it 5 stars
    1 person gave it 4 stars
    2 people gave it 3 stars
    11 people gave is 1 star

    When a lot of people say a book is the best book they've ever read, and an equal amount of people say it is the worst book they've ever read, and very few people have an opinion in between, that leads me to believe the book is very opinionated and very biased. What do you think?

    A closer look at the reviews reveals that I got it right! Those who gave it one star are not assessing the objectivity of the book, but simply rant. One person said the book should be banned (bad books should be banned?) Those who gave it 5 stars seem like they had already made their mind up before they even read the book. One person is calling for it to be compulsory reading in schools (good books should be compulsory reading?) and one person gives it 5 stars simply because it is critical of Islam (wishful thinking much?). One person exhorts us to make this book the last book we read about Islam (narrow-minded much?) and a couple say it will change the world ( I gotta admit I was taken aback by that one. So why is this the first time I have heard about this book?)

    From what I have heard even on this very forum which is an ex-muslim forum, Ali Sina goes too far in his opposition to Islam.

    Is there anything positive you can say about this book?

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: what is important to you now, o ex-muslims?
     Reply #31 - May 27, 2009, 12:40 PM

    has anyone here read it?  am sure it would make interesting , as long as you keep your objectivity whilst reading it

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  • Re: what is important to you now, o ex-muslims?
     Reply #32 - May 28, 2009, 08:04 AM

    I personally don't dislike Ali Sina-he is often too harsh in his criticism of Islam & often his criticism of Islam becomes criticism of nice Muslims, yet I do see him doing a much needed service.

    Loads of apostates here became apostates due to Ali Sina's FFI, some might well become familiar with Islam's darker side rather than the "all jihadis are misinterpreting their faith..." type of platitudes which politically correct papers & magazines spout. Islam's negative statements about other faiths in the Quran & hadiths are also something that kafirs, especially polytheists should be aware of.

    Besides, other sites for non believers have the explicit or implicit requirement of criticizing all faiths or being branded hypocrites- I don't think its neccessary to be  critical of all faiths to criticize Islam. I think its perfectly allright to find Christian schools & hospitals beneficial while criticizing jihadist attacks which kill & mutilate people & madrassas where violence against kafirs are taught.

    Besides, loads of people in many parts of the world have suffered due to the actions of Islamists, or seen Islamist violence in different parts of the world on T.V. FFI & Jihad Watch does give these people a place to vent, if only online.

    For example, those Armenians driven out from Turkey & the non Muslims driven out from Pak & Bangladesh might not routinely bomb like the Hamas, yet it would be very wrong if they're even deprived of their right to vent & share their sorrows!  Wink

    Also, the mainstream media also often focusses on moderate Muslims to such an extent that the term Islamist or jihadi goes completely missing from their statements, like in the Mumbai Massacre, the jihadis were referred to as simply gunmen, as if they were high school shooters! Roll Eyes FFI or Jihad Watch present the news from another perspective.

    It really isn't very pleasant for non Muslims to hear that dastardly terrorist attacks by Islamists  were actually conspiracies, & the mainstream media, while emphasizing the feelings of Muslims, often overlooks the pain of non Muslims who have legitimate reasons to feel angry that jihadi attacks are called Government conspiracies!

    Also, often history books misrepresent or negate Islam's past violent acts, like Tipu Sultan is presented as some great freedom fighter or Saladin as epitomes of tolerance-& their religious bigotry isn't mentioned at all-FFI & JW give that side of the story.

    From my point of view, to be very frank, I don't find Ali Sina an Evil Incarnate, there are stuff I dislike about his approach & he often crosses limits, but thats' true for all individuals.  Smiley

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: what is important to you now, o ex-muslims?
     Reply #33 - May 30, 2009, 02:03 AM

    I have a god-awfully annoying MP (Conservative) who sends me auto spam telling me he doesn't consider emails with no contact details in. I resorted to titling in block capitals "MY CONTACT DETAILS, HERE:" but I just get honoured with more auto spam.

    But the good news is, my local councillor (Liberal Democrat) holds the people much closer to his heart, and has sent me a kind email basically asking me, "when do you wanna meet up?"

    How easy was that?!  dance

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
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