Does he have a point?

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #60 - July 12, 2009, 07:08 PM

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I am the sort of person that is very self-critical to a fault - but I reckon if I have both extremes attacking me I've got it about right

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #61 - July 13, 2009, 09:20 AM

Agreed. To be frank that's been our attitude with running this place too. If extremely nice people are worried about the place being too rough and the ranting "all Muslims are evil so let's nuke Mecca" crowd reckon we're apologists then this is good. Extremists on both ends of the spectrum should be dissatisfied with the place IMHO.

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #62 - July 13, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #63 - July 13, 2009, 12:56 PM

Quote from: osmanthus on July 13, 2009, 09:20 AM
Agreed. To be frank that's been our attitude with running this place too. If extremely nice people are worried about the place being too rough and the ranting "all Muslims are evil so let's nuke Mecca" crowd reckon we're apologists then this is good. Extremists on both ends of the spectrum should be dissatisfied with the place IMHO.

And they are: from FFI to most Muslims

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #64 - July 13, 2009, 02:45 PM

Quote from: Hassan on July 12, 2009, 06:50 PM

...At the same time no matter what an ex-Muslim does in the eyes of some Muslims, he is "inciting hatred & violence" toward Muslims....

or should l say, any critiques of islam? The thing is we must not stop our critique on islam if we love the world and i certaintly hope that Hassan won't stop his critiques. Our critique must be objective and not emotional one.
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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #65 - July 13, 2009, 07:34 PM

Tamberlyn4u (7 hours ago)
I'll ask again - Hassan, bearing in mind all that has been said in the last few posts - how is it worth it to you to alienate yourself from former friends and colleagues and to potentially put your family at risk? Do you really think you are helping enough to even that out?

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Tamberlyn4u,
I'm sorry some former friends and colleagues no-longer wish to know me because I express views on Youtube, but that's their choice. For my part I bear no ill-will to anyone.

I'm not knocking on people's doors and forcing my views on anyone. On the contrary I defend the rights of others to express their views and live their life according to their beliefs.

I certainly don't consider my videos offensive. But if some do find them offensive then all they have to do is not watch them.

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #66 - July 13, 2009, 10:52 PM

Sounds like he's becoming uncomfortable that he isn't convincing you. He'll start going all ad hominem style on you soon if you persist.

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #67 - July 21, 2009, 08:56 AM

His post was very close to a veiled threat too. He's obviously getting a tad stroppy. I assume this means he cannot dispute the content of the videos. If he could then presumably he would.

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #68 - July 21, 2009, 10:23 AM

Just say ad hominem's don't work on you. Best not to take his arguments seriously.

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Re: Does he have a point?
Reply #69 - July 21, 2009, 09:50 PM

He sounds like an emotional vampire.

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