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  • Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     OP - July 22, 2009, 01:40 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Tc5VI6d44

    A song venerating the sufi saint, Lal Shahbaz Qalandar.

    Artistically, a lot better than the likes of Sonseed in my opinion.

    (The Pakistanis on this forum probably already know this band)
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #1 - July 22, 2009, 01:54 PM
    I've been meaning to look into Junoon. I heard that Salman Ahmad gave Basim Usmani from the Taqwacore band 'The Kominas' his guitar (or maybe that was just in Michael Muhammad Knight's book 'Osama Van Halen' Huh?).
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #2 - July 22, 2009, 02:00 PM
    That's meant to be rock? Huh?
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #3 - July 22, 2009, 02:01 PM
    Yeah, they are quite a good band and I would definitely reccomend them. I don't know about that, never heard of The Kominas or taqwacore!
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #4 - July 22, 2009, 02:02 PM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on July 22, 2009, 02:00 PM
    That's meant to be rock? Huh?


    No its not meant to be rock. Its sufi rock! It combines rock with traditional sufi qawwali music etc. Have you not heard of junoon? This song is actually a cover of a Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan song.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #5 - July 22, 2009, 02:04 PM
    Junoon are pretty good.
  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #6 - July 22, 2009, 02:07 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on July 22, 2009, 01:40 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Tc5VI6d44

    A song venerating the sufi saint, Lal Shahbaz Qalandar.

    Artistically, a lot better than the likes of Sonseed in my opinion.

    (The Pakistanis on this forum probably already know this band)


    It doesn't sound half bad....and I'm still embarrassed by Sonseed.
  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #7 - July 22, 2009, 02:08 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on July 22, 2009, 02:02 PM
    No its not meant to be rock. Its sufi rock! It combines rock with traditional sufi qawwali music etc. Have you not heard of junoon? This song is actually a cover of a Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan song.

    I've heard the original as my dad listens to that type of stuff. I cant stand qawwali music though so don't like the song in the OP.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #8 - July 22, 2009, 02:18 PM
    I absolutely love Qawwali. I know this is a cliche but there is an energy in qawwali music that I can't really explain. Jeff Buckley was a big fan of Qawwali as well. He referred to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan as "my Elvis" and even covered one of his songs.

    Here is probably the most famous song by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, listen to the tablas at 2:00 and 4:42. Amazing!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sa85QO6pyA#watch-main-area


    By the way, apparently when Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan died, his body was dug up and his tongue was wrapped around his neck (because he was a musician and music is bad).
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #9 - July 22, 2009, 02:20 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on July 22, 2009, 02:18 PM
    By the way, apparently when Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan died, his body was dug up and his tongue was wrapped around his neck (because he was a musician and music is bad).

    Fuckin fundies
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #10 - July 22, 2009, 02:28 PM
    Their is no way you could wrap a tongue around his neck, its wider than than my thighs!
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #11 - July 22, 2009, 04:07 PM
    Quote from: awais on July 22, 2009, 01:54 PM
    I've been meaning to look into Junoon. I heard that Salman Ahmad gave Basim Usmani from the Taqwacore band 'The Kominas' his guitar (or maybe that was just in Michael Muhammad Knight's book 'Osama Van Halen'...


    I could never get past the fact that Salman is related to two of the most vapid women in Muslim America.  I know it's not his fault, but then again, no one forced him to do isufirock.com with them (and bonus, their equally vapid son / brother).  But LOLz you have to love "Sufi leaders" who are among GW Bush's biggest financial supporters.   Afro

    But to bring this back around to the Kominas and MMK, Salman's cousin Asma Gull Hasan tried to sue them b/c the Kominas wrote a dirty little song about her and she was so sure that MMK put them up to it (and in one of his books, he wrote some nasty passage about her as well).  http://www.denverpost.com/newsheadlines/ci_7262553

    Personally I dislike any religious or "spiritual" rock music or hiphop at all whether it's Christian or Muslim or whatever. It usually ends up sounding very corny and forced.  Even Matisyahu had one good song and the rest of it was meh. 
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #12 - July 22, 2009, 04:19 PM
    Agree with fading, I can never bring myself to enjoy such music because the whole song is usually about glorifying an invisible & bigoted entity.  I used to like "kum-bayah my lord Kum by yah" when I was about 5 years old, and when  the penny dropped I never liked it again.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #13 - July 22, 2009, 04:21 PM
    I don't really agree. The reason I listen to Qawwali is the same reason I listen to French hip hop. I don't understand the french language but I listen to the music because I like it.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #14 - July 22, 2009, 04:46 PM
    Quote from: fading on July 22, 2009, 04:07 PM
    But to bring this back around to the Kominas and MMK, Salman's cousin Asma Gull Hasan tried to sue them b/c the Kominas wrote a dirty little song about her and she was so sure that MMK put them up to it (and in one of his books, he wrote some nasty passage about her as well).  http://www.denverpost.com/newsheadlines/ci_7262553

    Yeah, isn't she a riot. MMK included her suit in the appendix to "Blue-Eyed Devil". Grin
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #15 - July 22, 2009, 07:19 PM
    I don't have an issue with music that is religiously oriented but in a traditional format, be it Catholic hymns or old spirituals or qawwali. It's when people try to make it "cool" by doing rock or hip hop that I start laughing.  It's like the old pastor going around saying "Isn't God totally rad, dudes?" or something.  Just corny and forced. 
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #16 - July 22, 2009, 07:29 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on July 22, 2009, 04:21 PM
    I don't really agree. The reason I listen to Qawwali is the same reason I listen to French hip hop. I don't understand the french language but I listen to the music because I like it.

    Although I must admit I still like Boney-M, even if their lyrics are based on Xtianity  Huh?
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #17 - July 22, 2009, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on July 22, 2009, 04:19 PM
    Agree with fading, I can never bring myself to enjoy such music because the whole song is usually about glorifying an invisible & bigoted entity.  I used to like "kum-bayah my lord Kum by yah" when I was about 5 years old, and when  the penny dropped I never liked it again.


    Then stay away from Michelangelo's paintings in the Sistine Chapel. It's all mumbo jumbo.

    I kinda still like Amazing Grace. Especially on the bagpipes.

    I also like suo gan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drVoJ7bRyg8&feature=related
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #18 - July 23, 2009, 07:32 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAqThta2y-s&feature=related

    Love this one.
  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #19 - July 23, 2009, 07:37 PM
    Quote from: fading on July 22, 2009, 07:19 PM
    I don't have an issue with music that is religiously oriented but in a traditional format, be it Catholic hymns or old spirituals or qawwali. It's when people try to make it "cool" by doing rock or hip hop that I start laughing.  It's like the old pastor going around saying "Isn't God totally rad, dudes?" or something.  Just corny and forced. 


    There is a difference between this sort of "sufi rock" and stuff like sonseed and zain bhikha. The main difference is this isn't preachy religious music, but is just influenced by devotional sufi music. They are not using the music as a medium to "educate" people about religion but the reason they are playing this "sufi rock" is because they are influenced by sufi music.

    And on a side note, I really hate Zain Bhikha! That is the sort of shit, preachy music which is aimed at young people that both you and I despise!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZdHfVF5Zfg&feature=related

    He tries to sound like a pious Michael Jackson!
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #20 - July 23, 2009, 09:47 PM
    Well, okay, it's a matter of personal tastes I guess. I find Salman Ahmed to be as irritating as Matisyahu or the "sufi jazz" artists or any of that.  It just annoys me. 

    But Zain Bhika et al are just as bad.  I can't even listen to Zain Bhika he annoys me so much.  I think most nasheeds today are smarmy, childish, condescending and simplistic.  I would much rather have a prophet-worshipping qasida from 100 years ago than some of this shit today -- if I was being forced to listen to any of this stuff to begin with.

    Do you know that some people even posted a video on youtube of a nasheed by Irfan Makki and were going around saying it was 'Mikaeel Jackson's last recorded song - after he converted to al-Islaam, mashAllaaaaaaaah!' 

    I much rather prefer the old stuff of any of it - Christian, Muslim, whatever.  If I have to listen to it at all.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #21 - July 24, 2009, 12:23 PM
    Quote from: fading on July 23, 2009, 09:47 PM
    But Zain Bhika et al are just as bad.  I can't even listen to Zain Bhika he annoys me so much.  I think most nasheeds today are smarmy, childish, condescending and simplistic. 


    I couldn't have put it better myself!  yes
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #22 - July 24, 2009, 12:38 PM
    Quote from: Ferrero on July 22, 2009, 02:04 PM
    Junoon are pretty good.


    Yeah, I think their Azadi album is my favourite.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #23 - July 24, 2009, 06:44 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps56rR4pqG8
  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #24 - September 02, 2009, 08:00 PM
    I just noticed a lyric in a Junoon song that is quite interesting for a Pakistani band:

    "Chor meri khuda"

    which means, "forget my god"!

    What is their position on religion? I remember hearing that in an interview, Salman Ahmed had said "Music is my country, music is my religion" when asked about religion.

    I would love it if the most popular pakistani band were atheists!
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #25 - September 03, 2009, 05:32 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on September 02, 2009, 08:00 PM
    I just noticed a lyric in a Junoon song that is quite interesting for a Pakistani band:

    "Chor meri khuda"

    which means, "forget my god"!

    What is their position on religion? I remember hearing that in an interview, Salman Ahmed had said "Music is my country, music is my religion" when asked about religion.

    I would love it if the most popular pakistani band were atheists!


    Its "Chorr meri khata" which means (to Allah to) "Forget my mistake".

    "Chorr meri khuda" is incorrect because the term for god in Urdu "khuda" is a masculine. So it should be the masculine sounding "mera Khuda" rather than "meri Khuda" which is feminine.

    God, I love Urdu  grin12

    By the way, the most critically acclaimed band in Pakistan, Mekaal Hasan Band, has a Pakistani Christian lead composer and guitarist in Mekaal Hasan himself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GyP8BycsIk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z305suo7ua8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Nnl1yBs1s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmnoZyvjy3k

    Most of their music comprises of Sufi poetry written by Shah Hussain in Punjabi.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #26 - September 04, 2009, 01:06 PM
    There was this one band in Indonesia I used to dig, called Ungu.
    They put out a record for Ramadan a while back, and while I dont really care for the lyrics...it is pretty friggen good.
    and the video aint to shabby either

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW3tW7NOEo8&feature=PlayList&p=B6DF29B4EECE0694&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #27 - September 04, 2009, 03:36 PM
    I love the eyes in the beginning  wacko

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQa0jU0slU
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #28 - September 05, 2009, 02:03 AM
    Lol..... they so wakky.
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    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
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  • Re: Christian Rock sucks, allow me to introduce you to "Sufi Rock"!
     Reply #29 - September 29, 2009, 08:34 AM
    *BUMP*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkqVvTcG-A4

    Chal Bulleya - Mekaal Hasan Band.

    when the Sufi poetry of Bulleh Shah meets the Seven Deadly Sins. Amazing music video.
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