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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #30 - August 11, 2009, 05:42 PM
    Quote from: Farid92 on August 11, 2009, 05:07 PM
    That's the way it should be... Cool


    Urgh, i just realised ...

    If Ramadan falls on the 20th, it'll be the same day as my results. I won't be able to celebrate and/or drown my sorrows. This blows.
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #31 - August 11, 2009, 06:30 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on August 11, 2009, 06:48 AM
    haha bastards, I hope they suffer.  Tongue


     Cheesy
    "Poor human nature, what horrible crimes have been committed in thy name!"
    - Emma Goldman
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #32 - August 11, 2009, 06:56 PM
    This is my first Ramadhan as an apostate. I won't be fasting Insha FSM
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #33 - August 11, 2009, 08:16 PM
    It ain't even just family or friends that you have to worry about.

    Last year I snuck into a kebab shop during my lunch break to order a chicken wrap.  I placed my order and the Lebanese looking man behind the counter said:

    HIM - "Where are you from?"
    ME - "I'm from here."
    HIM - "Where are you from originally?"
    ME - "My parents are from Pakistan but I was born here".
    HIM - "You Muslim?"
    ME - "Yeh"...........
    HIM - "Aren't you fasting?"
    ME - "Nah, I'm not"
    HIM - "How come?"
    ME - "Er, I'm not very religious... er... er..."

    Then I grabbed my chicken wrap and fled.  cool2

    You're probably wondering why I said "Yeh" when he asked if I'm Muslim.  Don't worry, soon that habit will stop.
    .
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #34 - August 11, 2009, 08:18 PM
    Surprised he's even open if he's so observant. My local Lebanese joint is closed down for the entire month.
    fuck you
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #35 - August 11, 2009, 08:33 PM
    Another time I went to Nandos in Birmingham Bullring.  This was not during Ramadhan.  When I ordered my chicken at the counter, the Pakistani looking guy behind the counter said:

    HIM - "You Muslim?"
    ME - "Er... yeh"
    HIM - "It's not halal you know"
    ME - "Oh... um..."
    HIM - "The Nandos in Starcity is halal.  That's the only halal Nandos in Birmingham"
    ME - "Oh, right..."
    HIM - "Don't worry loads of people think we're halal.  We should put a sign up init saying we're not halal init?"
    ME - "Er... yeh!"  wacko

    Again, you're all probably thinking why the hell didn't I just say that I'm not Muslim, or why the hell didn't I just tell him to give me my HARAM chicken... but something just comes over you when you talk to a supposedly fellow Muslim brother.

    I then just went to the Greggs bakery opposite and got myself a nice tuna baguette.  cool2
    .
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #36 - August 11, 2009, 08:37 PM
    LOL

    That has happened to me before whenever i go out to kebab or KFC
    I just tell them to give me my food.
    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #37 - August 11, 2009, 09:04 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on August 11, 2009, 08:16 PM
    It ain't even just family or friends that you have to worry about.

    Last year I snuck into a kebab shop during my lunch break to order a chicken wrap.  I placed my order and the Lebanese looking man behind the counter said:

    HIM - "Where are you from?"
    ME - "I'm from here."
    HIM - "Where are you from originally?"
    ME - "My parents are from Pakistan but I was born here".
    HIM - "You Muslim?"
    ME - "Yeh"...........
    HIM - "Aren't you fasting?"
    ME - "Nah, I'm not"
    HIM - "How come?"
    ME - "Er, I'm not very religious... er... er..."

    Then I grabbed my chicken wrap and fled.  cool2

    You're probably wondering why I said "Yeh" when he asked if I'm Muslim.  Don't worry, soon that habit will stop.



    Mate, last year I went to an Indian restaurant in Gloucester about half an hour before Iftar, and the guy asked me if I was Muslim and I said "er... yeah", and then about 15 minutes passed and he bought my mate's food and didn't bring mine, and then he bought mine to the table at iftar time, on the dot!

    I reckon the reason I still say "yeah" when asked if I am Muslim by strangers is that I think they might ask further questions and I can't be arsed to explain!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #38 - August 11, 2009, 09:04 PM
    And I do look VERY Muslim, with the beard and everything, so people always assume I am.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #39 - August 11, 2009, 09:30 PM
    Lol.  Did he bring you a prayer mat to read your Magrib too?

    I dunno why I say "Yeh" if they ask if I'm Muslim.  Maybe because I might become a regular customer of theirs, or they might know my mates, or see me elsewhere and grass me up somewhere along the line.

    And there is the "can't be assed to explain" aspect too.  Sometimes it's just easier to say "Yeh"... but in future I will refrain from saying it if it prevents me from getting my haram Nandos half chicken with 2 sides and peri peri sauce.  grin12
    .
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #40 - August 11, 2009, 09:52 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on August 11, 2009, 09:30 PM
    Lol.  Did he bring you a prayer mat to read your Magrib too?


    You know what. I realised why he was bringing my food late so I didn't say anything. But its funny you should say that because I was dreading him asking me if I wanted to say my namaz as well! Luckily he didn't and just brought my food at iftar time!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #41 - August 11, 2009, 10:05 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on August 11, 2009, 08:16 PM
    You're probably wondering why I said "Yeh" when he asked if I'm Muslim.  Don't worry, soon that habit will stop.

    Takes time, but you will.  My answer is "I used to be, but now I dont believe in it"  Cheesy  You should see the look on their faces, they are usually to stunned to ask anything further!
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #42 - August 11, 2009, 10:09 PM
    You want to be careful saying that to people who are serving you food.  You might end up with their bogeys or spit in your dinner.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #43 - August 11, 2009, 10:31 PM
    i wait until after they have prepared it!
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #44 - August 11, 2009, 10:38 PM
    Luckily I live in a county where a Muslim is rarer than a llama, and even then my area has about 50 muslims in the whole 50,000 population district.

    Of course I'm not saying I really love living without Muslims, but at the same time I don't have to feel pressure about being asked if I'm a Muslim or not and then being asked why I'm doing wrong (also-I don't have South Asian affinities like the rest of the posters who talked about their experiences-rather Balkan/Southern European/Caucasus affinities and thus people don't pick me up as a Muslim anyway).

    The ironic thing though is that while many here are lucky enough to have their families know they are apostates, I have to pretend that I am, but I'm getting around that slowly, day after day.

    Also, I don't live anywhere near any of the people I used to know as Muslim.

    When I live in uni though it's a completely different situation, in a uni where 40% plus of the population are Muslim and they all know my name (ironically it's Mohammad-no details given out it's a common name) I am known as a Muslim, and the awkward questions start showing up.

    Although, on the other hand, I don't hang out with many Muslims at uni, so it's not all bad.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #45 - August 11, 2009, 11:38 PM
    Quote from: Tommy on August 11, 2009, 03:35 AM
    I respect Eid a lot. I don't see it as a 'religious' thing. To me, it's more of a cultural thing. Personally speaking, I see Eid as an event where people from different cultures can come together and celebrate. I admire the 'unity' that  the day represents. It's too bad that the very next day though, everyone goes back to their original racial biases, and continues to be distant from one another.


    Do you live in a town or city where there aren't a lot of Muslims?  For me, I disliked Eid more than Ramadan.  Def. see that racism and all the other shit on display too (plus not to mention that everyone is segregated into their own ethnic masjids, so literally some of them will say "What day are they fasting? Then we fast the next day.")  I'm glad I don't have to pretend to do any of it now, especially going to the masjid on Eid. 
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #46 - August 11, 2009, 11:40 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 11, 2009, 02:47 PM
    The latest group i have heard is 'submission' http://www.submitters.org.uk/, and I can see this growing into much greater prominences as time goes by.  They are quran-only and I have mentioned them before with regards to the mathematical miracles.


    You think? They've gotten even smaller than they were 10 years ago.  Their founder / leader was a whacko.  A taste for young girls (what a shock) and some other shit like that.  But I think la-hadith will get bigger as time goes by.  I used to have some friends into that Submission stuff. None of them are Muslim anymore. 
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #47 - August 11, 2009, 11:45 PM
    I'm going to spend Ramadan living my everyday life, getting shit done, EATING when I feel like it, and not worrying about suddenly stopping everything in the middle of the day so I can cook a larger-than-usual meal and have it on the table by iftar time. I never went to taraweeh when I was Muslim so no worries about that. 

    I didn't fast last year Ramadan - it was when I first came out as a non Muslim and I made it a point to eat everyday when I could. I was in a Muslim country so I had to be sneaky but I did it as an act of defiance, and I even did it in public places (it's illegal to eat in public in Ramadan, you can be arrested).
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #48 - August 12, 2009, 08:13 AM
    Living in SA makes it hard... wacko


    @ work, i'll hafta consume food in a safe room (far from the eyes of colleagues), could be the bathroom..... bunny

    @ home, it's easier....my lovely ro0m.... grin12


    I work from Sat thru Wed...(10:00 to 16:00) during Ramadan..




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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #49 - August 15, 2009, 11:13 PM
    I'm not looking forward to Ramadan at all. It was easier last year, I was at uni when it was Ramadan so I just pretended to fast and didn't need to pray. It's happening during the holidays this year, I don't know if my mum will expect me to pray and recite the Quran. I really hope she doesn't. If she does then I might have to come out to her. I can barely read Arabic any more and I've forgotten most of my prayers, she'll have a go at me if she finds this out. There's no bloody way I'm wasting half my day praying and reading that stupid book.

    I'm really worried about Ramadan. I can barely speak punjabi, how will I explain to my mum why I am no longer a muslim? Cry
    ~My story~
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #50 - August 16, 2009, 01:38 AM
    That's bad. I've never had that issue ever. Hope it pans out well for you.
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #51 - August 16, 2009, 01:56 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on August 15, 2009, 11:13 PM
    I'm really worried about Ramadan. I can barely speak punjabi, how will I explain to my mum why I am no longer a muslim? Cry

    Peru - How was Pakistan? Did  you run into any apostacy issues?
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #52 - August 16, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Welcome PS! Nice to see that FSM avatar again Wink
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  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #53 - August 16, 2009, 09:49 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 16, 2009, 01:56 AM
    Peru - How was Pakistan? Did  you run into any apostacy issues?

    Hey guys. Pakistan was fine. Didn't run into any issues luckily. I debated with my cousin (who came with us from England) about Islam a few times. He seems open-minded, I need to debunk that Haryun (sp?) guy for him though (the one spreading crap about scientific miracles). Talked to my bruv a few times too and he is so naive! He's been indoctrinated quite badly.
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #54 - August 16, 2009, 09:58 AM
    Harun Yahya? He's a tosser.  Afro

    Glad they didn't chop your head off anyway. That would have put a damper on the holiday.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #55 - August 16, 2009, 10:15 AM
    For me Ramadan is the month to enjoy all those forbidden things, which I did not enjoy for a quarter of a century - as I used to be a practicing Muslim.

    This year the idea of organizing an orgy makes me really excited ;-)
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #56 - August 16, 2009, 10:18 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on August 16, 2009, 09:49 AM
    Hey guys. Pakistan was fine. Didn't run into any issues luckily. I debated with my cousin (who came with us from England) about Islam a few times. He seems open-minded, I need to debunk that Haryun (sp?) guy for him though (the one spreading crap about scientific miracles). Talked to my bruv a few times too and he is so naive! He's been indoctrinated quite badly.


    Did you have fun in Pakistan? Whereabouts did you go?
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #57 - August 16, 2009, 10:37 AM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on August 16, 2009, 09:49 AM
    Hey guys. Pakistan was fine. Didn't run into any issues luckily. I debated with my cousin (who came with us from England) about Islam a few times. He seems open-minded, I need to debunk that Haryun (sp?) guy for him though (the one spreading crap about scientific miracles). Talked to my bruv a few times too and he is so naive! He's been indoctrinated quite badly.


    Hey Peru. Nice to see you back from your trip. Is your cousin open to read something on evolution? Nothing like Dawkins or anything. Try something called "Why Evolution is True" by Jerry Coyne or another one slightly lightearted is "Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubbin. There is always "Evolution for dummies". The best way I have found is to them the alternative and with that say why something like I.D doesn't explain it any better that evolution. Also if you can get hold of it, let him watch "cosmos" by Carl Sagan.
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #58 - August 16, 2009, 01:37 PM
    Quote from: open_thinking on August 16, 2009, 10:15 AM
    For me Ramadan is the month to enjoy all those forbidden things, which I did not enjoy for a quarter of a century - as I used to be a practicing Muslim.

    This year the idea of organizing an orgy makes me really excited ;-)


    Hi open_thinking, would you like to post an intro thread in the Introductions Forum Smiley
  • Re: How will you spend Ramadan?
     Reply #59 - August 16, 2009, 11:51 PM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on August 15, 2009, 11:13 PM
    I don't know if my mum will expect me to pray and recite the Quran. I really hope she doesn't. If she does then I might have to come out to her.

    If you're ever in the position that you can tell your mum you don't believe in Islam anymore, then you're very very lucky.  I'll never be able to do that.

    Good luck whatever you do.  Ramadan can be the most annoying time for ex-Muslims.

    Another thing that really annoys me during this month is that the Islamic satellite channels and the azaan seem to be blaring in our household a lot.


    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on August 15, 2009, 11:13 PM
    I can barely speak punjabi, how will I explain to my mum why I am no longer a muslim? Cry

    I can help you with that.  You can say the following:

    Ammi jee, mein Islam nu nai mann di.  Main nai roza rakhna.  Main nai namaaz par ni.  Main nai Quran par na.  Quran de vich baqwaas likhiya va.  Muhammad ek zaleel insaan si.  Muhammad ne kinne loka da khoon karwaya si.  Muhammad ek aantankwaad si.  Onhe ek che saal di kurri de naal shaadi kitte si.  Jedo o nau saal di si, Muhammad ne onhu lann mariya si.

    Mein eho jai insaan nu rasoolallah kidda mann sakdi a?

    Main music sunn na va, main apne pasand de kapre pone a, main kafirran di dost bann na chondi a, mein haram khaana khaana chondi a...


    *translation*

    Mummy, I don't believe in Islam.  I don't want to fast.  I don't want to pray.  I don't want to read the Quran.  The Quran contains nonsense.  Muhammad was a vile person.  Muhammad got many people killed.  Muhammad was a terrorist.  He married a 6 year old girl.  When she was 9, he f***ed her.

    How can I believe that such a person was a prophet of God?

    I want to listen to music, I want to wear what I want, I want to be friends with kafirs, I want to eat haraam food...

     Wink
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