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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #90 - November 05, 2009, 03:54 PM

    Where did you get a copy of that?  I tried to order it from the local bookshop and they said it was out of print.   :'(


    If you don't mind reading used books, you can buy this on Amazon marketplace at

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0345409469/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1257436491&sr=8-1&condition=used
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #91 - November 05, 2009, 04:11 PM

    Its great that you have read all these - which book did you enjoy reading the most, and which book would you say had the most profound impact on you?


    There are a few. My favourite is "God is not Great". Not because of any huge technical jargon, but because of it's sheer simplicity and common sense approach to the subject.

    The other book I enjoyed reading "Atheism - A short introduction", because it was short and to the point.

    The first book I read which tipped me over the edge was "Atheist Universe", it was the book that made me think how silly the whole thing was.

    "Atheist Universe" was the book that there wasn't anything illogical about asking:-

    "If the universe has a cause, then what was the cause of that cause"

    For years I was told that the question was childish and that God didn't need a cause. His existence was necessary. Something at the back of my mind told me that there was something not right about this "necessary" statement and it was simply an assertion. I dare not ponder it though or atrtempt to examine it for fear of "apostasy". The author in the book said that by same logic you can alleviate that step and just say that the universe is it's own cause. Why take it a step back to answer what is already a mystery with something that is even more incomprehensible?
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #92 - November 05, 2009, 04:16 PM

    There are a few. My favourite is "God is not Great". Not because of any huge technical jargon, but because of it's sheer simplicity and common sense approach to the subject.

     
    Yep, getting through the audiobook based on your recommendation, and enjoying it muchly - some of his one-liners are excellent & seem to be wasted being buried inside a book

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #93 - November 05, 2009, 04:34 PM


    Yep, getting through the audiobook based on your recommendation, and enjoying it muchly - some of his one-liners are excellent & seem to be wasted being buried inside a book


    Yeah, the audiobook is entertaining. Have you got to the chapters on "Arguments from Design" and "The Koran is borrowed from both Jewish and Christian myths"? Both those chapters have some great one liners. Lets see if great minds think alike. The is one line in each of these chapters which I thought stuck out like a sore thumb.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #94 - November 05, 2009, 04:55 PM

    Ive only heard the beginning of "The Koran is borrowed from both Jewish and Christian myths" but it was so good that I wanted to find the transcript so I could post it on COEM, much better than anything by Ibn Warraq - couldnt find it on Scribd though, where I normally find stuff like that..

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #95 - November 05, 2009, 05:00 PM

    Ive only heard the beginning of "The Koran is borrowed from both Jewish and Christian myths" but it was so good that I wanted to find the transcript so I could post it on COEM, much better than anything by Ibn Warraq - couldnt find it on Scribd though, where I normally find stuff like that..


    I have the e-book as well. PM me your email address and I'll mail it over. You can take the text from that page and paste it on here.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #96 - November 05, 2009, 07:36 PM

    I really need to read War and peace by Leo Tolstoy.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #97 - November 05, 2009, 08:20 PM

    Yep, that's one I've gotta get through as well.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #98 - November 05, 2009, 08:57 PM

    I have the e-book as well. PM me your email address and I'll mail it over. You can take the text from that page and paste it on here.

    Thanks Omaar. This is the insightful excerpt, which I have cut & pasted into word from Hitchen's book. If you want the original pdf document in original format then just send a pm.

    Print it off, read & enjoy!


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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #99 - November 05, 2009, 09:24 PM

    This chapter is probably one of the best in the book. It won't work for the muslims though because it's way too simplistic. But that is just how it is. The part they really need to focus on is this:-

    "It builds upon its primitive Jewish and Christian predecessors, selecting a chunk here and a shard there, and thus if these fall, it partly falls also."

    The above sentence should be enough to start alarm bells ringing and at least make them investigate.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #100 - November 06, 2009, 01:14 AM

    Okay, I've modified the list to include marks out of ten and a small comment.

    Thanks for that it was really helpful.  thnkyu

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #101 - November 06, 2009, 02:24 AM

    SPencer is mentioned in the same list as A J Ayer. That's a fucking traversty.
    Thus Spoke ZArathustra by Nietzche is a good book. Still reading it.

    "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #102 - November 06, 2009, 05:09 PM

    Another powerful excerpt from Hitchins book:

    Chapter Four - A Note on Health, to Which Religion Can Be Hazardous

    In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in a pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide; he knows the roads and paths better than a man who can see. When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind old men as guides.
    HEINRICH HEINE, GEDANKEN UND EINFALLE
    [/i]

    In the fall of 2001 I was in Calcutta with the magnificent photographer Sebastiaio Salgado, a Brazilian genius whose studies with the camera have made vivid the lives of migrants, war victims, and those workers who toil to extract primary products from mines and quarries and forests. On this occasion, he was acting as an envoy of UNICEF and promoting his cause as a crusader in the positive sense of that term against the scourge of polio.

    Thanks to the work of inspired and enlightened scientists like Jonas Salk, it is now possible to immunize children against this ghastly malady for a negligible cost: the few cents or pennies that it takes to administer two drops of oral vaccine to the mouth of an infant. Advances in medicine had managed to put the fear of smallpox behind us, and it was confidently expected that another year would do the same for polio. Humanity itself had seemingly united on this proposition. In several countries, including El Salvador, warring combatants had proclaimed cease-fires in order to allow the inoculation teams to move freely. Extremely poor and backward countries had mustered the resources to get the good news to every village: no more children need be killed, or made useless and miserable, by this hideous disease.

    Back home in Washington, where that year many people were still fearfully staying indoors after the trauma of 9/11, my youngest daughter was going dauntlessly door to door on Halloween, piping "Trick or Treat for UNICEF" and healing or saving, with every fistful of small change, children she would never meet. One had that rare sense of participating in an entirely positive enterprise.

    The people of Bengal, and particularly the women, were enthusiastic and inventive. I remember one committee meeting, where staunch Calcutta hostesses planned without embarrassment to team up with the city's prostitutes to spread the word into the farthest corners of society. Bring your children, no questions asked, and let them swallow the two drops of fluid. Someone knew of an elephant a few miles out of town that might be hired to lead a publicity parade. Everything was going well: in one of the poorest cities and states of the world there was to be a new start. And then we began to hear of a rumor. In some outlying places, Muslim die-hards were spreading the story that the droplets were a plot. If you took this sinister Western medicine, you would be stricken by impotence and diarrhea (a forbidding and depressing combination).

    This was a problem, because the drops have to be administered twice the second time as a booster and confirmation of immunity and because it takes only a few uninoculated people to allow the disease to survive and revive, and to spread back through contact and the water supply. As with smallpox, eradication must be utter and complete. I wondered as I left Calcutta if West Bengal would manage to meet the deadline and declare itself polio-free by the end of the next year. That would leave only pockets of Afghanistan and one or two other inaccessible regions, already devastated by religious fervor, before we could say that another ancient tyranny of illness had been decisively overthrown.

    In 2005 I learned of one outcome. In northern Nigeria'a country that had previously checked in as provisionally polio-free a group of Islamic religious figures issued a ruling, or fatwa, that declared the polio vaccine to be a conspiracy by the United States (and, amazingly, the United Nations) against the Muslim faith. The drops were designed, said these mullahs, to sterilize the true believers. Their intention and effect was genocidal. Nobody was to swallow them, or administer them to infants. Within months, polio was back, and not just in northern Nigeria. Nigerian travelers and pilgrims had already taken it as far as Mecca, and spread it back to several other polio-free countries, including three African ones and also faraway Yemen. The entire boulder would have to be rolled back right up to the top of the mountain.

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #103 - November 08, 2009, 12:45 PM

    The Demon Haunted World  - Carl Sagan
    Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - Carl Sagan
    The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
    Why Evolution is True - Jerry A. Coyne
    Blind Watchmaker - Richard Dawkins
    The Origin of Species - Charles Darwin

    Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources - Martin Lings
    Al-Ghazali on the Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Al-Ghazali's Path to Sufism: His Deliverance from Error - Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazali
    The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an English/Arabic - Abdullah Yusuf Ali

    The Republic - Plato
    The Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins
    The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution - Richard Dawkins
    Breaking The Spell - Daniel Dennett
    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life - Daniel C. Dennett
    A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking
    The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie
    The Greatest Show on Earth - Richard Dawkins
    -----------

    Read all these already.

    Carl, Charles and Dawkins are great writers.

    Dennet -  can be tedious.

    Martin Lings - Believer in Magical Realism :-) as opposed to objectivity.




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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #104 - November 08, 2009, 01:17 PM

    Rubaiyat - you also have won my respect with your commendable reading list, I look forward to your introduction  Wink..

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #105 - November 18, 2009, 06:47 PM

    The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
    Why Evolution is True - Jerry A. Coyne

    Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources - Martin Lings
    Al-Ghazali on the Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Al-Ghazali's Path to Sufism: His Deliverance from Error - Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazali

    Breaking The Spell - Daniel Dennett
    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life - Daniel C. Dennett
    The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie



    I wanted to ask you what you thought of these books individually. The God Delusion is the second atheist book I read, although not technical, I thought he did well to get his message across. I've not read the Dennett books yet and would like to read them. I'm interested in what you thought of Ghazali and Lings.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #106 - November 18, 2009, 10:55 PM

    The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
    ---------

    Richard Dawkins no doubt is a great writer. If you have ready his previous books you will quite easily realise this. He is witty and amusing and makes excellent case for non-belief. He creates striking metaphors that is accessible to any reader.

    Some people have said his philosophical understanding is not that good. But I don't care much about philosophy. 2000 years of philosophical quest for God yielded nothing! Did philosophy invent the penicillin or take us to the moon?

    To find Universal Truths using the power of Thought Alone is kind of bonkers approach!

    ----------
    Why Evolution is True - Jerry A. Coyne
    ----------

    This is an excellent book if you are looking for evidence of evolution. Writing is good too.

    -------
    Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources - Martin Lings
    -------

    This is a devotional book. If you are believer you will love this book. When I read it I was a believer. And some parts of it were quite moving.


    --------
    Al-Ghazali on the Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Al-Ghazali's Path to Sufism: His Deliverance from Error - Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazali
    ---------

    If you want to know about Sufism - then Ghazzali lays the foundations and makes it acceptable to the Ulema.


    -------
    Breaking The Spell - Daniel Dennett
    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life - Daniel C. Dennett
    --------

    To me Dennets writings is not witty and amusing as Dawkins.


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    The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie
    ------

    I think "Midnight's children" still remains his best book.

    Satanic Verses has some excellent bits in it. And some bits are quite tedious.


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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #107 - November 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

    How bout Pac's reading list?

    http://www.alleyezonme.com/tupacsReadingList.phtml

    It's a partial list. Apparently he had a very extensive library.

    fuck you
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #108 - November 19, 2009, 12:05 AM

    The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
    ---------

    Richard Dawkins no doubt is a great writer. If you have ready his previous books you will quite easily realise this. He is witty and amusing and makes excellent case for non-belief. He creates striking metaphors that is accessible to any reader.

    Some people have said his philosophical understanding is not that good. But I don't care much about philosophy. 2000 years of philosophical quest for God yielded nothing! Did philosophy invent the penicillin or take us to the moon?

    To find Universal Truths using the power of Thought Alone is kind of bonkers approach!


    This was the second book I read on atheism. When it came out in 2006, I squinted at it and dare not pick it up. The first book I read was "Atheist Universe" by David Mills. It's the book that took me to the edge. I only have one grumble about these books and it's that the target audience is always judeo/christian. There are times when I switch off and can't connect, simply because the theology is different.

    Quote
    ----------
    Why Evolution is True - Jerry A. Coyne
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    This is an excellent book if you are looking for evidence of evolution. Writing is good too.

    -------


    This was the best book I read on this subject, clear and lucid. I saw a lecture of his on YouTube from AAI 09

    Quote

    Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources - Martin Lings
    -------

    This is a devotional book. If you are believer you will love this book. When I read it I was a believer. And some parts of it were quite moving.



    When I was muslim I enjoyed the book and even had a lecture series on this read by Hamza Yusuf. It really did bring the whole thing alive and was very moving. There was one chapter which made me frown. It was the chapter about the prophets encounter with Zainab. It really made me raise an eyebrow. I prefer reading something more objective now though.

    Quote
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    Al-Ghazali on the Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Al-Ghazali's Path to Sufism: His Deliverance from Error - Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazali
    ---------

    If you want to know about Sufism - then Ghazzali lays the foundations and makes it acceptable to the Ulema.


    Hmm.. Hujjat-Al-Islam. The chap who reversed the whole enterprise. Mr Dogma himself. I prefer Ibn Rushd. Sadly Ibn Rushd just seemed to have been cast aside by the orthodox.


    Quote
    -------
    Breaking The Spell - Daniel Dennett
    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life - Daniel C. Dennett
    --------

    To me Dennets writings is not witty and amusing as Dawkins.



    Not read any of his books. Out of the four horsemen, he's probably the most academic and a deeper thinker. He's more witty in his lectures.

    Quote
    -----
    The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie
    ------

    I think "Midnight's children" still remains his best book.

    Satanic Verses has some excellent bits in it. And some bits are quite tedious.



    I just want to read these books out of curiousity. I'm not a huge fan of fiction.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #109 - November 19, 2009, 12:08 AM

    How bout Pac's reading list?

    http://www.alleyezonme.com/tupacsReadingList.phtml

    It's a partial list. Apparently he had a very extensive library.


    I had read somewhere previously that he was an avid reader.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #110 - November 19, 2009, 08:43 AM

    I would never read a book by that asshole Hitchens
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #111 - November 19, 2009, 09:19 AM

    I would never read a book by that asshole Hitchens


    There must be a reason?
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #112 - November 19, 2009, 10:12 AM

    In my view he is seemingly xenophobic - once he made an off hand comment about Pakistanis.
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #113 - November 19, 2009, 12:55 PM

    which was?

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #114 - November 19, 2009, 01:07 PM

    In my view he is seemingly xenophobic - once he made an off hand comment about Pakistanis.


    Considering that Pakistan is a cultural vacuum - he isn't too far off from what he has said. A culture raped and pillaged by Muslim invaders and the continued revering and looking up to the Saudi Arabians and arabs in general. I find it laughable that people call Christopher xenophobic when Pakistani's seem to be quite happy to commit cultural suicide without blinking an eye.

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #115 - November 19, 2009, 01:13 PM

    thats not xenophobic, but partly true - I dont think honest & thoughtful criticism, with evidence to support, of a culture is racist - just off the wall assertions that are.

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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #116 - November 23, 2009, 03:50 AM

    Currently reading 'Irrationality'. Superb book  Afro
    It is far from being an observation of religious irrationality, but irrationality in general. But as someone who has left Islam recently I can usually find the arguments somewhat related to religion. I dunno if that in itself is irrational.  wacko


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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #117 - December 02, 2009, 09:01 AM


    Updated 02/12/09

    Current changes in italic.

    Enjoy!

    Currently reading

    The Islamist - Ed Hussein
    Being and Nothingness - Jean-Paul Sartre

    Skeptic/Science/Atheistic
    In Defence of Atheism: The Case Against Christianity, Judaism and Islam - Michel Onfray
    The Demon Haunted World  - Carl Sagan
    What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text and Commentary - Ibn Warraq
    Infidel - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space - Carl Sagan
    Varieties Of Scientific Experience - Carl Sagan
    Atheism as a Positive Social Force - Raymond W. Converse
    Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Non-Believer - Christopher Hitchens
    The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
    Letter to a Christian Nation - Sam Harris
    Atheism: The Case Against God - George H. Smith
    God the Failed Hypothesis: How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist - Victor J. Stenger
    The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion - Robert Spencer
    The Quest for the Historical Muhammad - Ibn Warraq
    Why I Am Not a Muslim - Ibn Warraq
    Why Evolution is True - Jerry A. Coyne
    Your Inner Fish: The Amazing Discovery of Our 375-Million-Year-Old Ancestor - Neil Shubin
    Blind Watchmaker - Richard Dawkins
    The Origin of Species - Charles Darwin
    Atheist Universe: The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism - David Mills
    God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything - Christopher Hitchens
    Language, Truth and Logic - AJ Ayer
    50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God - Guy P Harrison
    The Improbability of God - Michael Martin
    Atheism - A Very Short Introduction - Julian Baggini
    Beyond Good and Evil - R J Hollingdale,  Friedrich W Nietzsche
    Leaving Islam - Ibn Warraq
    Philosophy - Stephen Law


    Islamic books
    Ancient Beliefs and Modern Superstitions - Martin Lings
    The Vision of Islam - Sachiko Murata
    The Makkan Crucible - Zakaria Bashier
    Sunshine at Madinah - Zakaria Bashier
    Scattered Pictures: Reflections Of An American Muslim - Imam Zaid Shakir
    Way to the Quran - Khurram Murad; Rashid Rahman
    Milestones - Sayed Qutb
    Fiqh Al-imam: Key Proofs In Hanafi Fiqh - Abdur-Rahman Ibn Yusuf
    Hadith Literature: Its Origin, Development & Special Features - Muhammad Zubayr Siddiqi
    On Schacht's Origins of Muhammadan Jurisprudence - Muhammad M. al-Azami
    The History of The Qur'anic Text. - Muhammad Mustafa Al-Azami.
    Mecca: From Before Genesis Until Now - Martin Lings
    The Eleventh Hour: The Spiritual Crisis of the Modern World in the Light of Tradition and Prophecy - Martin Lings
    What is Sufism? - Martin Lings
    Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources - Martin Lings
    Even Angels Ask: A Journey to Islam in America - Jeffrey Lang
    Losing My Religion: A Call For Help - Jeffrey Lang
    Struggling to Surrender: Some Impressions of an American Convert to Islam - Jeffrey Lang
    The Broken Chain - Aftab Ahmad Malik
    Let Us Be Muslims - Sayyid A. Mawdudi
    Al-Ghazali on the Remembrance of Death and the Afterlife - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Al-Ghazali's Path to Sufism: His Deliverance from Error - Abu Hamid Muhammad al-Ghazali
    Inner Dimensions of Islamic Worship - Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al- Ghazali
    Purification of the Heart: Signs, Symptoms and Cures of the Spiritual Diseases of the Heart - Hamza Yusuf
    Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadith - Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi
    The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an English/Arabic - Abdullah Yusuf Ali

    Wish List
    The Republic - Plato
    The Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins
    The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution - Richard Dawkins
    Parenting Beyond Belief: On Raising Ethical, Caring Kids Without Religion - Dale Mcgowan
    The Dragons of Eden Speculations on the Evolution of Human Intelligence - Carl Sagan
    Breaking The Spell - Daniel Dennett
    Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life - Daniel C. Dennett
    The Caged Virgin: A Muslim Woman's Cry for Reason - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking
    Einstein in His Own Words: Science, Religion, Politics, Philosophy - Anne Rooney
    The Satanic Verses - Salman Rushdie
    The Venture of Islam Vol 1,2,3 - Marshall Hodgson
    The Greatest Show on Earth - Richard Dawkins
    Being and Time - Martin Heidegger
    How are we to live - Peter Singer
    The Faith Healers - James Randi
    The Minds I - Douglas Hofstadter
    The Science of Good and Evil - Michael Shermer
    The Truth about Uri Geller - James Randi
    Flim Flam! - James Randi
    Why People Believe in Weird Things - Michael Shermer
    The Voice of Reason - Ayn Rand
    Capitalism - Ayn Rand
    Philosophy: Who Needs It - Ayn Rand
    With God On Our Side - Aftab Malik
    Losing Faith In Faith - Dan Barker
    The Philosophy of Humanism - Corliss Lamont
    Practical Ethics - Peter Singer
    For the New Intellectual: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand - Ayn Rand
    Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology - Ayn Rand
    The Clash of Fundamentalisms Crusades, Jihads and Modernity - Tariq Ali
    Existentialism and Humanism - Jean-Paul Sartre
    The Age of Reason - Jean-Paul Sartre
    The Prince - George Anthony Bull, Niccolo Machiavelli
    Why Darwin Matter - Michael Shermer
  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #118 - December 02, 2009, 10:18 AM

    Just finished Michael Knight's Journey To End Of Islam. It was OK but it wasn't as good as Blue Eyed Devil or The 5 Percenters. He seems to be writing for a certain audience: Indo Pakistanian youth who are disgruntled with what their "uncles" have been teaching them and want to rebel and be American at the same time. Or something. The identity crisis crew I guess. Still, some good insights in there and easy to read.

    Now I'm about half way through Irfan Yusuf's Once Were Radicals. It's quite a good book. I've laughed out loud at least once already. It's a kind of autobiography about how he once flirted with Islamic radicalism. Not sure that reading a couple of books by Syed Qutb and Maududi and having a desire to go off to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets constitutes a flirtation with radicalism...maybe there's more - I've not finished after all.

    Been reading through Kenan Malik's From Fatwa to Jihad as well. Not sure what to make of Malik. Is he suggesting a reappraisal of multiculturalism as a government policy? He seems to be derisive towards the younger generation claiming that because they were never victims of widespread "Paki Bashing" therefore they've never experienced anything like real racism. Hmmmmmm......not sure 'bout that  - but he's quite a good writer. Not from the UK so can't verify anything. Still worth a look.


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  • Re: Reading List
     Reply #119 - December 02, 2009, 05:03 PM

    Omaar Khayaam, I see a lack of philosophy books in your list? Any reason for this? By the way I really enjoyed Ed Hussain's its intersting that his father opposed Islamic fundamentalism, and how he got into fundamentalism, anyway as seen as though you are reading it, I'll not spoil it for you

    You might enjoy Immanuel Kant's critique of pure reason 
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