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  • You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     OP - September 06, 2009, 03:35 PM

    Ive been thinking about this for a few years now and apparently its about 100 to 150 UK pounds.

    Has anyone got an interest in getting their DNA tested to see which part of the world their ancestors derived from?  See what kind of selective pressures in your families journey have resulted in you & your body being unique to you.

    Or has anyone already done it, then any advice? Are you glad you did it?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #1 - September 06, 2009, 03:37 PM

    Ive been thinking about this for a few years now and apparently its about 100 to 150 UK pounds.

    Has anyone got an interest in getting their DNA tested to see which part of the world their ancestors derived from?  See what kind of selective pressures in your families journey have resulted in you & your body being unique to you.

    Or has anyone already done it, then any advice? Are you glad you did it?



    I'd love to get it done. Just think of the amazing discoveries that can be made about yourself and anscestors through this technique.
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #2 - September 06, 2009, 03:38 PM

    My mate wants to do it as well.  Do you know how we should go about it?

    Perhaps we could get a bulk COEM discount  Smiley

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #3 - September 06, 2009, 03:39 PM

    Your local GP could tell you.

    I wouldn't bother personally because my results would be really boring.  I know my family tree quite far back and its basically Irish all the way back. 

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #4 - September 06, 2009, 03:45 PM

    I am sure that DNA would go further back than you realise - may be even back to the Indians!

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #5 - September 06, 2009, 03:51 PM

    I've had it tested

    Basic results:

    92% European Admix, 5% East Asian, 2% Sub-Saharan African and 1% other

    Also, MtDna H and YDNA R1a

    Cluster in with Russians, Greeks, and Adygeis.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #6 - September 06, 2009, 03:52 PM

    It depends on whether you care about anthropology, if you will understand the results than you can do it what I put down is the summary of an 11 page report.

    Also, it can be expensive. I paid 120 down from 200, but the best tests are 400$

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #7 - September 06, 2009, 04:41 PM

    I would be interested in having my DNA tested, mainly to see if my Jewish ancestors really did come from the ancient Middle East or if they were Eastern Europeans who converted.

    I also want to find out if I carry the gene for MS as my dad and uncle both suffer from the disease (they're brothers, btw) but when I asked my GP about it she just laughed in my face and said there was no point in checking.  What a bitch!

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #8 - September 06, 2009, 04:53 PM

    I've had it tested
    Basic results:
    92% European Admix, 5% East Asian, 2% Sub-Saharan African and 1% other

    Where are your parents & grandparents from?  Whats admix?  Dont they break it down by country?
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    Also, MtDna H and YDNA R1a Cluster in with Russians, Greeks, and Adygeis.

    Whats this?
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    It depends on whether you care about anthropology

    What does?
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    if you will understand the results than you can do it what I put down is the summary of an 11 page report.

    you mean its cheaper if you dont need the summary of the results?
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    Also, it can be expensive. I paid 120 down from 200, but the best tests are 400$

    How did you get the discount - by interpreting your own results?  What do you get extra for 400$?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #9 - September 06, 2009, 04:56 PM

    Does anyone know how many generations down the line your DNA will point to?  From the beginning of man?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #10 - September 06, 2009, 05:02 PM

    Ive been thinking about this for a few years now and apparently its about 100 to 150 UK pounds.

    Has anyone got an interest in getting their DNA tested to see which part of the world their ancestors derived from?  See what kind of selective pressures in your families journey have resulted in you & your body being unique to you.

    Or has anyone already done it, then any advice? Are you glad you did it?



    Hadn't thought of it, but now you mention it I think it would be a very interesting exercise.
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #11 - September 06, 2009, 05:06 PM

    Does anyone know how many generations down the line your DNA will point to?  From the beginning of man?


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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #12 - September 06, 2009, 05:14 PM

    You're right - I should have said since the beginning of humanoids

    Just been talking about it to my wife and she wants it done now too.  Ive always said my wife looks a bit chinese and wondered if she has any oriental lineage (20years & Hum'd have met her so they should know what I mean) so she thinks this should confirm it one way or the other.

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #13 - September 06, 2009, 05:19 PM

    You're right - I should have said since the beginning of humanoids

    Just been talking about it to my wife and she wants it done now too.  Ive always said my wife looks a bit chinese and wondered if she has any oriental lineage (20years & Hum'd have met her so they should know what I mean) so she thinks this should confirm it one way or the other.


    Yeah she does look oriental. Good idea.
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #14 - September 06, 2009, 05:28 PM

    Sorry should have been clear:

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    Where are your parents & grandparents from?  Whats admix?  Dont they break it down by country?



    Sorry, my parents are mainly Caucasians (Armenian, Georgian and Russian) and also minor Balkan (greek, Bosniak). Admixture means how much of each race roughly you have in you. I have around 92% European, and the rest mixed between East Asian and Sub Saharan African. This is fairly typical for someone from the North Caucasus or the Balkans. Indians and South Asians often range between 50-85 European and mostly the rest East Asian. They don't tell you what country because they don't know, but they can tell you haplogroups and that gives you an indication. They also tell you where you cluster (basically what populations you genetically fit in) and what people you share results with.


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    Also, MtDna H and YDNA R1a Cluster in with Russians, Greeks, and Adygeis.


    Whats this?



    Two types of DNa haplogroups, Mitochandrial and YChromosome (only males have this one). My MTdna haplotype is H there are many, H is the most common one found among Europeans so it gives me a general idea. YDNA tells me that I have R1A1a which is usually found in specific parts of Eastern Europe. There are many YDna haplogroups and thus it helps you pinpoint the location of your ancestors. R1a is found from Eastern Europe to India, but it has special subclades (like A1a) which is more region specific. For example, you might find you have R1aM17 which would tell you that you have Mongolian ancestry.

    Clustering means that you fit in genetically among certain populations for example I fit in well among Circassians, Russians and Greeks, which is of no surprise to me because I already knew this. You may be surprised about where you cluster. Also, it tells you who has very similar results and what you share results with.

    The more you care about anthropology the more you can interpret the results and gain an understand. If you want something basic like ancestral region you might want to look for a simple DNA test-maybe about 50 or 60 quid. It's more expensive for more things. For example, the one I got includes craniofacial genes (genes that control resemblances) potential genetic diseases, and a constant comparison to 500,000 other members on a database which updates constantly. There is also a whole lot of information and I haven't even scratched the surface. It was cheaper for me because it was down to 250$ at the time as a sale and this was when the dollar was 2 to a pound so I got it for 130?, but now it's 399$ and that's about 270-300 quid. You might want to look for  abasic one. Just to find out where you might be from originally and what races you might be composed of

    Let me know if you have any other questions.


    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #15 - September 06, 2009, 06:34 PM

    Thanks FF for that thorough reply.  Both my parents came from a particular village from Uttar Pardesh (near Allahabad - the red dot on the map) that had always intermarried and was a closed genetic group - they tend to be taller and fairer than the average Indian.  

    Rumour has it that our ancestors came from Afghanistan or Uzbekhistan 1400years ago.  They were soldiers employed by the government to control that region in India.





    I really want to find out if this is true, will it tell me this?  Does it breakdown on the initial test by country?  Are Afghanistan, Nepal, Uzbekhistan and India seen as the same genetic group?  How accurate are these tests?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #16 - September 06, 2009, 07:00 PM

    It should tell you-even within the Indian group there are different subclades, and Uzbekhs Nepalese and Afghans are quite distinct so your YDna should be informative in that way-also-it would tell you that you are closer to Uzbekhs and far from Nepalese for example or you might even find that you "cluster" elsewhere! That's the beauty of it, it will probably give you a good indication of what you look for.

    The accuracy depends on the company, the better companies are more accurate due to larger databases, you might want to research different companies and sample sizes. 23andme.com has a very extensive database and that's the one I used, but, others also have decent database sizes for a much better price.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #17 - September 06, 2009, 07:06 PM

    I have no idea what I am looking for, so I may use your recommendation 23andme.com , thanks.

    Will I get the information I am looking for in the basic test, or will I get better, more accurate and precise, results if I pay more?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #18 - September 06, 2009, 07:12 PM

    I just looked at 23 and me for you, it only has their complete test now. It costs on the steep side and you don't really need that. You can pay 400$ if you want or I can look for basic but accurate and adequate tests for you and let you know what I find tomorrow or something (sorry cant do it tonight but I can do it fairly early tomorow).

    Just let me know. As I said, 400$ is a lot to pay for information of which half you don't need, but it is a reputable site. I will look into it if you want me to.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #19 - September 06, 2009, 07:27 PM

    Please FF, or let me know what I should be looking for as I am based in the UK. 

    I'm a newbie and relatively naive in this area compared to you.  I wouldnt know what the minimum requirements are for me to get the data I need.

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #20 - September 06, 2009, 07:30 PM

    So I've looked into it, and this site seems to be fairly good for your situation. The tests come from 120dollars plus 20 shipping which is about 80 quid which isn't bad at all. It's also fairly reputable and trusted. The data is going to be accurate. The basic tests tell you all about your paternal dna line but you can also combine paternal and maternal line for an extra cost. It might not matter to you.

    The site is easy to understand so you might want to read it yourself-it doesn't use very complicated jargon.

    Here's the homepage:


    http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/index.php

    and I think this test in particular might be more suited to you but you should look around. It's not hard to understand.


    http://www.dnaancestryproject.com/ydna_intro_ancestry.php

    These guys ship to the UK, as with most tests they are based in America but they are friendly to us-as with all tests the results will take ages-but that's just standard. If it's not what your looking for let me know and I will try and find a better one.


    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #21 - September 06, 2009, 08:18 PM

    Thanks a lot FF, Ive bookmarked them and will take a look at these. 

    The basic tests tell you all about your paternal dna line but you can also combine paternal and maternal line for an extra cost. It might not matter to you.

    Why wont maternal line matter - because they are both inbreds (sorry mum & dad Wink) from the same village ?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #22 - September 06, 2009, 08:21 PM

    Because they are both from the same village it's likely that they are similar---plus most people for some reason focus on the paternal line. You can do both if you want.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #23 - September 06, 2009, 08:30 PM

    There are more Indians in the UK, so would a UK company have a larger database and thus more accurate analysis of people from India?

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #24 - September 06, 2009, 08:32 PM

    The test I made showed the following results:

    94% Canine, 6% Homo Sapiens
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #25 - September 06, 2009, 08:46 PM

    Hardly any UK companies around and the ones there are usually have small samples (less accuracy) because most Brits who do it go with larger companies like 23andme, genebase etc. There are also plenty of Indian-Americans on these databases infact, some of them have Indian Americans as their second highest group because this group is often confused about it's origins-especially in America where they find themselves laballed as: "Caucasians-but not white".

    I think an American company should be fine for Indians. As I said though-if I happen to find a decent UK company I'll let you know.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #26 - September 06, 2009, 08:52 PM

    Cheers for all your help FF - I am armed with the info I need so should make an order this week.

    I'll post the results here.. I wonder if I have any saudi Arabian in me as my mum claims that her ancestry goes back to Prophet Muhammed, so that will be another claim overturned  dance

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #27 - September 06, 2009, 08:57 PM

    Yep lol. The problem with that is since Genebase and others map migration roots, if you find a recent migration from the Arabian peninsula to your Uttar Pradesh ancestors a Muslim might interpret it as Prophet Muhammad blood. If you don't, "the test isn't accurate".

    I swear pratically every type of Muslim tries to claim Muhammad blood. I once met a middle aged half Welsh half Han Chinese lady who claimed to have Syed blood! That doesn't even make sense!

    I suppose it's like holy blood and it increases the value of the person, there was one twat in my madrassa used to claim to be a syed, he got free tuition, he used to cut in lunch lines, if anyone picked on him he would use it as a shield. Even the teachers used to avoid saying anything to him!

    It's all bollocks really. And even if someone does have Muhammad blood-it's a minor insignificant drop far far away.

    Anyway-the help's no trouble. If you need anymore let me know.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #28 - September 06, 2009, 09:33 PM

    Did you know?

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    everyone of European extraction could trace their ancestry back to one of seven women who lived 40,000 years ago...the "seven daughters of Eve"

     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4559253.stm

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  • Re: You thinking of getting your DNA tested?
     Reply #29 - September 06, 2009, 11:39 PM

    Whats the difference between these 2 options?

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    Standard Paternal Ancestry Package (20 Y-DNA Marker Test), $119
    Trace your own ancestry on your paternal line. You may upgrade to Advanced Package at a later date.



    Quote
    Advanced Paternal Ancestry Package (44 Y-DNA Marker Test), $199
    High resolution test for tracing your own ancestry on your paternal line.


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