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 Poll

  • Question: Total Fail?
  • WORST - 13 (37.1%)
  • Pretty bad, but not really the worst - 15 (42.9%)
  • Islam stinks, but I don't really know enough about the other religions. - 4 (11.4%)
  • Now way! Islam is fuckin AWESOME!!! - 3 (8.6%)
  • Total Voters: 35

 Topic: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?

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  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #30 - December 29, 2009, 03:35 AM

    I think the more suited option for me would be  "Pretty bad but just as Crazy as the others out there"


    I would have voted for that  Afro

    tea and cake or death!!!

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  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #31 - December 29, 2009, 03:42 AM


    Which other religion actually says those that leave it should be murdered? Not a crazy lunatic fringe, but the actual mainstream? Which other religion has so many nominal adherents locked into it upon pain of death for dissenting?

    Do you really not think that this one example makes it, at least a teensy-weensy bit more mentally unstable than other religions as practised today?

    Not evern a tiny, small, ever so little amount more crazy than the nearest competitors?







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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #32 - December 29, 2009, 03:51 AM

    You guys make me so happy I ended up not coverting to Islam.

    tea and cake or death!!!

    "Dear Josh, we came by to fuck you, but you were not home. Therefore... you are gay."  Ghost World
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #33 - December 29, 2009, 03:53 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #34 - December 29, 2009, 03:58 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.


    You guys make me so happy I left Christianity.

    tea and cake or death!!!

    "Dear Josh, we came by to fuck you, but you were not home. Therefore... you are gay."  Ghost World
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #35 - December 29, 2009, 06:07 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.

    true, and lets not forget the good chosen people

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #36 - December 29, 2009, 06:07 AM

    Which other religion actually says those that leave it should be murdered? Not a crazy lunatic fringe, but the actual mainstream? Which other religion has so many nominal adherents locked into it upon pain of death for dissenting?

    Do you really not think that this one example makes it, at least a teensy-weensy bit more mentally unstable than other religions as practised today?

    Not evern a tiny, small, ever so little amount more crazy than the nearest competitors?

    You have a point there. Thing is the thread title is "Worst Religion Ever". Now if it was "Religion that in its mainstream form is the most batshit crazy today" then yeah, Islam wins.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #37 - December 29, 2009, 06:08 AM

    lol they are so arrogant calling themselves "god's chosen people"
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #38 - December 29, 2009, 06:27 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.

    300 ppl were judicially killed during the inquisition. That's like, couple market suicide-bombings in the grand history of things. Is this is the darkest time for islam? or was there worse?

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #39 - December 29, 2009, 06:33 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.


    So hang on, Islam should be given special allowance because its followers are intellectually retarded? that we non-Muslims should give them some leniency because their mind set is 500 years behind the times? how long are we non-Muslims meant to wait? some of us do actually want to be able to live without worrying about people blowing shit up!

    Come on, you're starting to sound like those Muslims on youtube who dredge shit up from 500 years ago - time for everyone on earth to realise it is 2009 and no 'special allowances' should be made to retarded religions with equally retarded followers. Stop constructing a wheel chair ramp and demand Muslims climb those stairs, get on the platform with everyone else and get with the programme.

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #40 - December 29, 2009, 06:42 AM

    300 ppl were judicially killed during the inquisition. That's like, couple market suicide-bombings in the grand history of things. Is this is the darkest time for islam? or was there worse?


    Comparing judicial killings to extrajudicial killings-- yeah, that's fair  Roll Eyes Why don't you throw in the numerous religiously-motivated pogroms, riots, civil strife, the Crusades, and direct and indirect killings by civil authorities during the middle ages and see what number you come up with? And consider the population of Europe at the time-- particularly after the Plague when they couldn't really afford to be killing too many more people on top of that too.

    Context, man.

    So hang on, Islam should be given special allowance because its followers are intellectually retarded? that we non-Muslims should given them some leverage because their mind set is 500 years behind the times? how long are we non-Muslims meant to wait? some of us do actually want to be able to live without worrying about people blowing shit up!


    You got reading comprehension issues, kawai-- nowhere did truth even imply that Islam "should be given special allowance". He gave an analysis-- you're the one who assigned normative value to it, not him. Of course, I should expect as much from a member of the "Anyone who isn't as angry at Islam/Muslims as I am is an Islamic apologist" brigade.

    And why do you think Islam might be 500 years behind Christianity, kawai? Maybe because it was founded 500 years after Christianity? Sure there are many other reasons, too, but you don't bother to analyze that stuff as you are content to listen to the "Islam is evil" white noise instead. Your attitude towards Islam is emotional and lacks rational clarity. You have no analysis-- you only have a reaction to something you don't like and have little personal experience with.

    fuck you
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #41 - December 29, 2009, 06:42 AM

    300 ppl were judicially killed during the inquisition. That's like, couple market suicide-bombings in the grand history of things. Is this is the darkest time for islam? or was there worse?

    thats because everyone else that hadn't been killed either faked conversion to Christianity or flee before he got cought

    and for those who opted to convert to Christianity they had to hang pork meat and keep a wine stock clearly displayed at their houses. on top of that often they had there houses searched for those items

    now that isn't very much forgiving, is it??

    how about the Spanish armada and clearing almost 90% of the local people of Latin america??
    you know they used to burn 13 people together alive for the glory of jesus.

    how about several hundred years of crusades, and the fact that used to roast babies at age less than 5 for eating them as snack???

    ibraham should have been Neutered  

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #42 - December 29, 2009, 07:21 AM

    I'm not sure about the "ever" part but Islam is the shittiest religion at the moment hands down. I don't need to repeat the arguments already made by billy which I absolutely agree with. I can see now why he has been voted POTM  Afro.

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #43 - December 29, 2009, 07:40 AM

    This 'top trumps' of religions is pathetic.  Islam is particularly concerning because of the influence and number of adherents it still has.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #44 - December 29, 2009, 07:43 AM

    I think Islam is less flexible about discarding or reforming its stupidities than other religions, hence it can seem the most crazy. Not just that, but it honestly believes it is on a mission for mankind and spreads its unreformed submission as though its the salvation of morons living in ignorance.

    Its like - your religion is a mental hospital on fire, and you're knocking on the doors of your neighbours 'inviting' them into your lunatic asylum. First of all, put the fire out in your place. Then seek cures for the lunatics in your hospital.

    Other religions tend to be more circumspect and humble and embarassed about their innate contradictions and they do something about it.

    Islam kind of like runs through the streets with an axe in its hand and its trousers around its ankles screaming "Look at me! Look at me! Stop denying I'm the best you horrible kuffar! Woo hoo! I'm the religion of peace!"

    YouknowwhatImean?




    Jesus Christ this post alone should make you Jester of the month And Poster of the month for the entire next year hahaha
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #45 - December 29, 2009, 07:44 AM



    how about several hundred years of crusades, and the fact that used to roast babies at age less than 5 for eating them as snack???



    Believe it or not, the crusades were actually a response to the taking of Jerusalem by Muslim powers.  Of course they quickly turned into get rich and land grabbing exercises for people.  

    Where did you hear the baby story? it sounds like complete bollocks.  Just like the one of the Jews drinking the blood of children.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #46 - December 29, 2009, 07:57 AM

    You see Islam is right now where Christianity was in the dark ages. Its at its worst phase and then it will move on to the next phase of reform

    Dont forget Christians committing murders too in the Spanish Inquistion, the Crusades, Salem, Massachusetts witch hunts, the Catholic Church killing anyone off in the middle ages for not being a Christian.


    Christianity did not change...people did. And a good part of that was people stopped really believing in it and following it to the letter.
    Just look at this recent pew pole in the US:
    http://religions.pewforum.org/maps
    On a national average only around 56% of people said that religion was very important in their lives.
    70% believe that many religions can lead to heaven and all that.  Only around 30% believed that their holy book was the literal 'word of god'.

    To quote Mark Twain: "There are no witches. The witch text remains; only the practice has changed. Hell fire is gone, but the text remains. Infant damnation is gone, but the text remains. More than two hundred death penalties are gone from the law books, but the texts that authorized them remain."


    Its not that the religions changed that makes the greatest difference, its that people stopped taking it seriously.
    Once that happens, The people are free to correct the religion, not the other way around.

    A problem islam has that christianity doesnt so much is in the books. The bible is a mess, and constantly contradicts itself, it was written by dozens of people..none of which are jesus, and just as the books that make it up were voted on by Yays and Nays at a council, people do the same thing now.
    Islam on the other hand, has a big problem with the quran. It is very clear on certain important things. It claims to be the word for word word of god, written by god himself.
    This makes it much harder to play the pick and choose game.


    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #47 - December 29, 2009, 08:04 AM

    BTW, there is something to not get confused about....
    Reformation does not mean making the religion more 'progressive'. It was an attack on the corruption and innovations of the catholic church (the bidah, if you will). When you talk about the Protestant Reformation in europe, you need to remember what came of it, from the Puritan movement to the fundamentalist christians in the Southern US.
    Reformation means taking it back to its roots.
    There is a reformation movement in Islam right now, they are called salafists.


    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #48 - December 29, 2009, 08:39 AM

    Believe it or not, the crusades were actually a response to the taking of Jerusalem by Muslim powers.  Of course they quickly turned into get rich and land grabbing exercises for people. 

    Where did you hear the baby story? it sounds like complete bollocks.  Just like the one of the Jews drinking the blood of children.

    http://www.crusades-encyclopedia.com/cannibalism.html

    hope this can be of good use

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #49 - December 29, 2009, 08:57 AM


    'Eating babies' is a standard accusation in Western civilisation against one's religious or political
              opponents. It is the ultimate taboo, as you will realise. Hence the Romans accused the early
              Christians of eating babies, the medieval West accused Jews and heretics of eating babies, in
              medieval literature pagans eat babies, the Revolutionary French peasantry accused the French
              nobility of eating babies. The crusaders did eat their horses (which in Britain at least is only one
              step up from eating babies) and during the first crusade one group of warriors (the 'Tafurs') were
              accused of eating babies...The Tafurs were recorded to have resorted to cannibalism at the siege
              of Ma'arra; this was reported by Raymond of Aguilers, but not by other chroniclers of the First
              Crusade (France, Victory,  p. 315 and note 49). It is tempting to deduce that they were accused of
              this crime because they were poor warriors, even peasants, despised and feared by the more noble
              warriors who regarded them of being capable of any depravity. In other words, the accusation reflects
              fear and distrust between classes, rather than what actually happened. The Christian peasantry were
              regarded as 'other' and 'alien' by the Christian nobles. In contrast, the Muslim warriors were brave
              and had their own code of warrior ethics which was very like the Christian warriors' code of ethics.
              But peasants did not share any warrior-ethic; they fought dirty. Hence Christian nobles could regard
              Christian peasants as being far more alien than Muslim warriors. They were sure that warriors
              would always act honourably, but they were sure that they could never trust the peasants to behave
              honourably! Alternatively, it is possible that the story of cannibalism originated with the Tafurs
              themselves. If they put it about that they ate the bodies of their dead enemies after battle they would
              scare their enemies so much that any enemy they met would flee rather than fight them.(2)

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #50 - December 29, 2009, 08:59 AM

    Most probably something grossly exagerated.  Although resorting to cannibalism during extremely dire situations such as when under siege for a long time, is plausible.

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #51 - December 29, 2009, 09:16 AM

    'Eating babies' is a standard accusation in Western civilisation against one's religious or political
              opponents. It is the ultimate taboo, as you will realise. Hence the Romans accused the early
              Christians of eating babies, the medieval West accused Jews and heretics of eating babies, in
              medieval literature pagans eat babies, the Revolutionary French peasantry accused the French
              nobility of eating babies. The crusaders did eat their horses (which in Britain at least is only one
              step up from eating babies) and during the first crusade one group of warriors (the 'Tafurs') were
              accused of eating babies...The Tafurs were recorded to have resorted to cannibalism at the siege
              of Ma'arra; this was reported by Raymond of Aguilers, but not by other chroniclers of the First
              Crusade (France, Victory,  p. 315 and note 49). It is tempting to deduce that they were accused of
              this crime because they were poor warriors, even peasants, despised and feared by the more noble
              warriors who regarded them of being capable of any depravity. In other words, the accusation reflects
              fear and distrust between classes, rather than what actually happened. The Christian peasantry were
              regarded as 'other' and 'alien' by the Christian nobles. In contrast, the Muslim warriors were brave
              and had their own code of warrior ethics which was very like the Christian warriors' code of ethics.
              But peasants did not share any warrior-ethic; they fought dirty. Hence Christian nobles could regard
              Christian peasants as being far more alien than Muslim warriors. They were sure that warriors
              would always act honourably, but they were sure that they could never trust the peasants to behave
              honourably! Alternatively, it is possible that the story of cannibalism originated with the Tafurs
              themselves. If they put it about that they ate the bodies of their dead enemies after battle they would
              scare their enemies so much that any enemy they met would flee rather than fight them.(2)

    yes true,

    the noble worriers didn't eat childes but then again they had no problem killing them

    as you can see in the link their are three western sources confirming the stories, and there are much in the arabic sources.
    their is the the one source that denies the story as you had put in your post and thats good for me(3 vs 1).

    but then again you cannot deny the monstrosities that had been done in the crusades and in the spanish armada wars.

    for a fact, their is not a single war that the christian world had been involved in that hadn't the most hideous, most portal, and most savage way of acting.

    in my opinion muslims (not islam in particular) had much human attributes than any other power that fought against them.

    remember the red Indians and the nuclear bombing of japan.

    while islam sucks you should really see the others for who they are.

    Most probably something grossly exagerated.  Although resorting to cannibalism during extremely dire situations such as when under siege for a long time, is plausible.

    not if you kill the person then eat him

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #52 - December 29, 2009, 09:18 AM

    Most probably something grossly exagerated.  Although resorting to cannibalism during extremely dire situations such as when under siege for a long time, is plausible.


    Or it is an emotionally loaded statement that dehumanises the enemy - the same way that someone says, "he kills little puppies!" and the expectation of getting a response of horror and "we must do something about it".

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #53 - December 29, 2009, 09:19 AM

    But why the fuck would you even eat babies? It doesn't make sense on any level. And I know war is not supposed to make "sense" but I think thats bullshit. Grave offences I understand but eating babies just seems super crazy.

    EDIT
    Fuck it. I thought about it and thought about all the crazy shit people have done. And it might be true.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #54 - December 29, 2009, 09:20 AM

    But why the fuck would you even eat babies? It doesn't make sense on any level. And I know war is not supposed to make "sense" but I think thats bullshit. Grave offences I understand but eating babies just seems super crazy.


    "I want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs!"  Yum Yum

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #55 - December 29, 2009, 09:28 AM

    yes true,

    the noble worriers didn't eat childes but then again they had no problem killing them

    as you can see in the link their are three western sources confirming the stories, and there are much in the arabic sources.
    their is the the one source that denies the story as you had put in your post and thats good for me(3 vs 1).


    What you have is a record of an eye witness account, people those time always tended to exaggerate what they saw.  The source you gave me says this itself.  I never denied that the nobles were capable of killing children.



    but then again you cannot deny the monstrosities that had been done in the crusades and in the spanish armada wars.

    for a fact, their is not a single war that the christian world had been involved in that hadn't the most hideous, most portal, and most savage way of acting.


    I don't recall denying them.  I just said that people also exaggerated about their enemies to dehumanise them and whip up hysteria against them, especially in the middle ages.

    in my opinion muslims (not islam in particular) had much human attributes than any other power that fought against them.


    Perhaps there were great leaders like Saladin, but no.  The Turks for one were definitely not known to be noble.

    while islam sucks you should really see the others for who they are.


    I have never said that only Muslims are capable of committing atrocities..  Where did you get that idea?

    not if you kill the person then eat him


    What probably happened was that they killed the person, and ate parts of him because they were starving and desperate.  That is different from killing someone to eat him.  It has happened in many wars.  


    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #56 - December 29, 2009, 09:29 AM

    But why the fuck would you even eat babies? It doesn't make sense on any level. And I know war is not supposed to make "sense" but I think thats bullshit. Grave offences I understand but eating babies just seems super crazy.

    EDIT
    Fuck it. I thought about it and thought about all the crazy shit people have done. And it might be true.

    Well hey, if you're hungry what's the difference between eating a dead baby and a dead adult?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #57 - December 29, 2009, 09:31 AM

    Well hey, if you're hungry what's the difference between eating a dead baby and a dead adult?

    humanity perhaps Huh?

    killing children then grilling them is ok for you???

  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #58 - December 29, 2009, 09:36 AM

    But why the fuck would you even eat babies? It doesn't make sense on any level. And I know war is not supposed to make "sense" but I think thats bullshit. Grave offences I understand but eating babies just seems super crazy.

    EDIT
    Fuck it. I thought about it and thought about all the crazy shit people have done. And it might be true.


    Eating babies is a very ancient taboo, when in the past you wanted to whip your people into a raging hysteria against your enemy, you said that he ate babies and that sort of thing.  Eating babies is a classical example, it has been used many times.   The Romans accused the Christians of doing it, later in Medieval European society the Jews were accused of doing it.  Cannibalism in times of desperation is true, it has happened, but eating babies is ridiculous.  


    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Is Islam the shittiest religion ever?
     Reply #59 - December 29, 2009, 09:39 AM

    humanity perhaps Huh?

    killing children then grilling them is ok for you???

    And if the baby is already dead?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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