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 Topic: New french law - no yelling at your wife

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  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #60 - January 08, 2010, 02:57 PM

    And it obviously seems like you think you are better and more intelligent than everyone who you dont agree with.


    I've disagreed with many people on this forum, and you are one of the very few I've called stupid, so you really don't have a good basis for saying that.

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    I doubt that anyone in real life would want to be anywhere around you if you spoke to them how you are doing to me on this forum.


    Though there are plenty of people who find my candor and lack of a self-censor charming and refreshing, plenty of people don't. Fuck 'em. It has gotten me into fairly serious trouble over the years, but it's a small price to pay to say what I want.

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    Either that or you actually have no friends.


    Nah, it's just that I don't tend to befriend stupid assholes.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #61 - January 08, 2010, 03:00 PM

    Yet your definition of stupid is a person who supports a law that you disagree with.


    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #62 - January 08, 2010, 03:05 PM

    Nope-- Zaephon supported anti-hijab laws and I never called him (or considered him) stupid. Osmanthus supports public smoking bans and I've never considered him stupid. IsLame supports gun control laws and I don't consider him stupid. Didn't call Kaffir Latte stupid when he said he supports the Senate health care bill.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #63 - January 08, 2010, 03:07 PM

    Right, so you just keep on picking out on me everytime I post an opinion that you disagree with.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #64 - January 08, 2010, 03:11 PM

    I guess so. Maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe there's also a reason I'm not the only one here doing that, and a reason why the only person on this forum who seems to respect you is someone who is commonly considered to be a troll.

    It could be that all of us are fucked and you really are better (more principled, respectful, intelligent, and/or better informed) than the rest of us OR...

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #65 - January 08, 2010, 03:13 PM

    It's because your posts scream cowardice.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #66 - January 08, 2010, 03:19 PM

    Anyway, back on topic:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvNMBrZW8BE

    Maybe there's also a reason I'm not the only one here doing that


    Well, I will admit that I have said things to other users that may have upset and caused them to dislike me, but all I recall doing with you is simply debating laws, and you always seem to go mental over my opinions. The other people also seem to get over it after a post or two, but you dont.

    What exactly have I said in this thread to give you an excuse to become so aggresive towards me or to call me stupid? Do you mind explaining that?

    It's because your posts scream cowardice.


    And is this a copy paste response from what Q Man said earlier in this thread? Even if they do sound that way, how is that a reason to reply to me in such a manner?



    Also, I only just spotted and realised this amusing post by Q Man:

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    First off, "agreeance" is not a word


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance
    http://gregdooley.com/archive%202003/0222Durst.html

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    According to the folks at the Oxford English  Dictionary, "agreeance" is actually a word.


    And you have the audacity to call me stupid. I find you to be a complete clown now, really, you should get some face paint and a red nose, it would suit you and your ignorance very well.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #67 - January 08, 2010, 03:40 PM

    Well, I will admit that I have said things to other users that may have upset and caused them to dislike me, but all I recall doing with you is simply debating laws, and you always seem to go mental over my opinions.

    What exactly have I said in this thread to give you an excuse to becaume so aggresive towards me or to call me stupid? Do you mind explaining that?


    Okay, I'm gonna take a break from insulting you and actually explain where I'm coming from here in the hopes that, for once, you will listen--

    When I call you "stupid" that doesn't mean I think you have a below average IQ necessarily, but your intelligence will be judged by me (and likely others) relative to your attitude. If you're gonna be arrogant and stubborn, you better have the intellectual chops to back it up. And the more arrogant and stubborn you are, the smarter you better be-- especially as we've got a lot of very smart folks here who can make someone look very stupid if they like, and the more stubborn, arrogant and close-minded you are the worse it's gonna look for you. It's kinda difficult to effectively debate someone when you are so arrogant you don't even take the time or effort to seriously consider and analyze their statements enough to craft an effective counterargument. Zaephon was just as arrogant and stubborn as you, perhaps more so, but dude was wicked smart, so while I considered him frustrating and close-minded, I did not consider him stupid.

    If you had displayed more humility in your posts and a willingness to listen to differing points of view on a topic and actually consider them (which is something people on this forum are quite good at, and you're also being judged relative to them), then I would have never called you stupid. Furthermore, if you actually did listen to other points of view, the more intelligent and informed you can become. Arrogantly rejecting others' opinions out-of-hand, without any serous consideration or analysis, in addition to making you look dumb, is not conducive to intellectual development.

    And I'd also suppose that if your attitude were better, people wouldn't be as quick to get pissed off at other things you say.

    Now, you can either listen to what I'm saying here and think about it, or you can get defensive, make excuses and turn it all back on me. Your call.

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    And is this a copy paste response from what Q Man said earlier in this thread?


    Just because I was the first to say it doesn't mean I was the first to think it. Most people on this forum are more polite than I am.

    EDITED TO ADD:

    Also, I only just spotted and realised this amusing post by Q Man:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance


    Nice link...

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    Usage: considered obsolete and a bastardization of 'agreement'


    Though I was incorrect in saying it was not a word at all. Please forgiveth me of my ignorance (since you like using obsolete words-- and I'm sure you meant to use an obsolete version of "agreement" and didn't just fuck up then try to cover up your ignorance by looking up "agreeance" online)

    The most interesting part of this, however, is that you just confirmed what I've been saying-- you don't carefully read what others have written because you have no interest whatsoever in giving serious consideration to differing opinions.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #68 - January 08, 2010, 03:59 PM

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    And is this a copy paste response from what Q Man said earlier in this thread? Even if they do sound that way, how is that a reason to reply to me in such a manner?

    No, we just happen to agree. As for Q-Man's manner, I don't blame him. Like he's already said, your arrogance is astounding, not to mention your attitude problem.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #69 - January 08, 2010, 04:03 PM

    Count me in with the P-lady and the Q-man, I've already stated my views.  Afro

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #70 - January 08, 2010, 04:21 PM

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    Though I was incorrect in saying it was not a word at all. Please forgiveth me of my ignorance (since you like using obsolete words-- and I'm sure you meant to use an obsolete version of "agreement" and didn't just fuck up then try to cover up your ignorance by looking up "agreeance" online)


    Actually, I use the word agreeance a lot. It just slips of my tongue easier and seems right to me as opposed to agreement, yet I dont see how this is any worse then using slang words that dont even exist in the dictionary as plenty of other people choose to do.

    I dont even know if I'm being arrogant, its just the way that I type. If you dont like it then you should maybe not reply to my posts, at least I cannot see anything wrong with the posts I have made in this thread, that is just the way I write.

    I just find it more silly that people can get so annoyed by what I write regarding my opinion on a law, but whatever. If you dont like my posts, feel free to put me on ignore.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #71 - January 08, 2010, 04:46 PM

    Actually, I use the word agreeance a lot. It just slips of my tongue easier and seems right to me as opposed to agreement, yet I dont see how this is any worse then using slang words that dont even exist in the dictionary as plenty of other people choose to do.


    Okay, you're right, but it is awkward speech.

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    I dont even know if I'm being arrogant, its just the way that I type. If you dont like it then you should maybe not reply to my posts, at least I cannot see anything wrong with the posts I have made in this thread, that is just the way I write.

    I just find it more silly that people can get so annoyed by what I write regarding my opinion on a law, but whatever. If you dont like my posts, feel free to put me on ignore.


    Well, if everyone who is annoyed by you here puts you on ignore, you'll find yourself in a solely bilateral dialogue with King Tut. On the contrary, I'd suggest it would be better for you to find a different forum to post in. A larger one with more loudmouth idiots. A smaller forum like this with a lot of quality posters is never going to be a place where you are respected unless you change your attitude.

    Lemme give this one last shot--

    You are being arrogant, unless everyone else here is incorrectly perceiving your attitude. You are so arrogant that you do not recognize your limitations, and that makes you look dumb. You insist on getting into a debate with me about rights even after it is clear that I have an intellectual foundation in rights theory and you do not. That's just one example.

    Contrast that with my other "nemesis" here-- kawai. You will never see me getting into a debate with him over Islamic theology and practice because he is considerably more knowledgeable on that topic than I am, and if I were to get in a one-on-one debate with him on that topic, he'd crush me. Instead, when he states an opinion like "moderate Muslims aren't standing up to the radicals" based on assumption and conjecture, I engage him in an area where I have more knowledge than he does-- history and politics. Of course, he's smart enough to recognize his limitations in this area and quickly disengages from the debate. He doesn't get into a 3 page debate with me on a topic where he's obviously less knowledgeable, making him look progressively less informed with each post.

    So if you insist on continuing to be arrogant and not listening to other people's opinions and giving them serious consideration/analysis, at least know your limitations. That's the difference between people seeing you as an asshole and a dumb asshole, and take it from another asshole-- it's much better to be perceived as a smart asshole than a dumb one.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #72 - January 08, 2010, 04:48 PM


     Afro @ Q-Man


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #73 - January 08, 2010, 10:44 PM

    Rgardles of wether I am being arrogant or not, I completely have the right not to be perfect and be exactly the way I am. And since you are so stuck up over individuals rights, this passage may completely do your stupid noggin in, but I couldnt care less:

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    I have a right not to be abused.
    I have a right to anger over past abuse.
    I have a right to change the situation.
    I have the right to freedom from fear of abuse.
    I have a right to request and expect assistance from police and social agencies.
    I have a right to share my feelings and not be isolated from others.
    I have a right to want a better role model of communication for my children.
    I have the right to be treated like an adult.
    I have a right to leave the abusive environment.
    I have the right to privacy.
    I have the right to express my own thoughts and feelings.
    I have the right to develop my individual talents and abilities.
    I have the right to legally prosecute the abusing spouse.
    I have the right not to be perfect.


    OMG, like you are violationg my rights, how about you shut up and stop obsessing over the way I type, and realise what a daft hypocrite you are in doing so while believing in your own opinions regarding free speech.

    Free speech does not give any person the right to violate the rights of another like you seem to believe it does. Your opinion and knowledge on human rights is incredibly lacking, and just because a few people here agree with you does not mean that either you nor they are right. You appear to be far more arrogant then I am, I am not in anyway asking you to change either yourself or your opinions, but you seem to almost be demanding this of me, kind of like bigotry. But feel free to say what you like. People might agree with you on what you say, but you are still incredibly wrong on the issue of rights.

    Yet the funniest thing is, that you say that you believe in free speech, yet you have such a problem with whatever I say  Cheesy. Seriously, if you or anyone else here cannot see just how blatantly and ridiculously hypocritical you are, you are the stupid and dumb ones, not me  dance.

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    You are being arrogant


    And I have the right to be arrogant. I have this right under free speech, and under the right to be the way I am and not to be perfect. You are violating my rights OMG, and you care so ignorantly about your pathetic right to verbally abuse other people however you like. I may be arrogant and cowardice, but at least I am not a hypocritical and abusive twat like you are.

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    even after it is clear that I have an intellectual foundation in rights theory and you do not. That's just one example.


    And I call complete and utter bullshit, as my post right here poves. You hardly know anything about rights, and you are arrogant and deluded to think that you do.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #74 - January 09, 2010, 02:28 PM

    I give up. I tried. By all means continue to be a self-deluded, stupid, slightly insane, annoying asshole fuckface who wallows in his own ignorance and listens to no one-- but since you're better than all of us, know more, are right all the time when we are wrong, and we're all the self-deluded ones, I wouldn't expect any respect from people on here. Most normal folks when confronted by the fact that no one on a forum likes or respects them would either leave or adjust their attitude. You're not even an amusing troll like Tut or kope. You just suck.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #75 - January 09, 2010, 02:29 PM

     Cheesy

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #76 - January 09, 2010, 03:57 PM

    I give up. I tried. By all means continue to be a self-deluded, stupid, slightly insane, annoying asshole fuckface who wallows in his own ignorance and listens to no one


    Nope. I listen to things that are right, like the factual quotes that I post. You have the belief that your opinion is right and that I should be expected to listen to and believe it, wait, isnt this how Muslims teach their religion?

    I dont actually believe that I am right, but you have not pested anything that is anymore true or factual then what I say. And you also have a major issue with not being able to tell the difference between opinion and fact.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #77 - January 09, 2010, 04:04 PM

    I should be expected to listen to and believe it


    Yes on the first, no on the second. It's like I've stated repeatedly on this thread-- you don't listen to anyone. You read their words, and if you disagree, give it no serious consideration and reject it out of hand, then construct a response without ever considering for a moment that the person whom you are disagreeing with might have something valuable to say. And that's a big reason (though certainly not the only one) why almost everyone here finds you despicable. Differing opinions are very well tolerated here-- boneheaded assholes are not.

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #78 - January 15, 2010, 01:25 PM

    I just found a good video that shows clearly what kind of behavior would be classed as illegal under such a law. Choose to watch it or not if you like, but the kind of behavior in this video is clearly evident that free speech is not an excuse to give people like this the freedom to act this way in front of their families:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InbvZa1orGU&feature=fvw

    And of course, I am not going to listen to anyone else on this situation when I were raised in the exact same situation as that. There is no reason whatsoever for me why this should not be made illegal, but of course, people who ignorantly defend the kind of behavior in this video wont even watch it, and they are either are like this themselves (this is quite evident in the way they type on this forum anyway), or have never been in such a situation themselves so wouldnt have any idea at all what it feels like.

    As Dr Phil says in the clip, this is criminal behavior.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #79 - January 15, 2010, 01:35 PM

    1 - I was raised in a household full of abuse, so don't dare make empty accusations that none of us know.  I find it quite odd that you say your past was full of abuse at the hands of your mother and yet you returned to live there now.  I would never, ever step foot in my parents house to live again after the abuse I suffered. 

    2 - the guy in the video is an abusive man, who actually got up and became physical, big difference between saying it's an anti yelling law vs an actual anti abuse law.




    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #80 - January 15, 2010, 02:03 PM

    I'll make accusations if I like, just like you like to make accusations about me as well.

    I did return home due to not wanting to be homeless, but I stood up for myself and my parents know that if they did try anything against me then I would retaliate now. There have been a few minor issues since then, but we have gotten over them and we all seem to get along just fine now thanks.

    Your opinions of this issue and the law are your own and you are entitled to them, but I definitely know that behavior like that in that video can occur without a single bit of any physical involvement at all, and easilly denied later on. That is the kind of behavior that I believe that this law is targeting.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #81 - January 15, 2010, 02:09 PM

    I'm not sure they have invented a wall as dense as you yet. 

    Explanation given to you > through one ear > out the other > repeat loop.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #82 - January 15, 2010, 02:21 PM

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    Explanation given to you > through one ear > out the other > repeat loop.


    Seems to be working exactly the same way with you and several others  Afro.

    I just found that video while watching Dr. Phil and felt like adding it here to say that I believe that the verbal components of that kind of behavior should be illegal, hence my reason for supporting this law. I have clearly explained this many times, but it just goes in one of your ears and out of the other  Cheesy

    I'm not sure they have invented a wall as dense as you yet. 


    If you think I'm dense, then you perhaps dont know what that word means:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3qFdbUEq5s

    My brain works just fine thanks, I'm not as dense as most normal people are.

    We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

    you can either defend women or you must defend Islam. You can’t defend both

    - Maryam Namaze
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #83 - January 15, 2010, 06:06 PM

    Ex-Hindu, Current Douchebag

    fuck you
  • Re: New french law - no yelling at your wife
     Reply #84 - January 15, 2010, 06:09 PM

    Nah, more like Eternal douchebag, for some reason I see this lasting his lifetime.  Cheesy

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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