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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #60 - September 03, 2010, 06:48 AM
    Quote from: Nahda on September 03, 2010, 06:45 AM
    The only religions other than Islam that have maintained the monothiestic message are Judaism and Orthodox Christianity and this is why Allah (S.W.T) calls them "Ahl al-Kitab" and elevates them to a status higher than any other religion. All the other religions have instead of worshipping Allah (S.W.T) alone have associated Him with his prophets and messengers and this applies to all religion from Buddhism to Mayan Paganism. Now please show me one religion that claims such universality?


     


    Are you saying that Buddhism is polytheistic?
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #61 - September 03, 2010, 06:55 AM
    I was actually thinking about writing "Instead of worshipping Allah (S.W.T) alone have associated Him with his prophets and messengers or replacing Him as the object of worship and this applies to all religion from Buddhism to Mayan Paganism." My bad, I just thought having too much ands in one sentence makes it sound quite stale. But why are you just attacking the technicality but not the philosophy of what I just said?
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #62 - September 03, 2010, 06:59 AM
    I'd hate for you to think that I'm attacking you, I was just curious.
    I don't think much can be said about your post - you state that you had doubts about Islam and through a process of comparative study you returned to Islam as your faith of choice.
    perhaps you could tell us why you think Islam is so intellectually satisfying? Why should, for instance, an outsider that has never come across the theology of Islam find it any more satisfying than say the shamanism of Siberia?

    and, i'm sorry, but buddhism is even more monotheistic than islam, in fact so much so that it is monist.
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #63 - September 03, 2010, 07:17 AM
    Quote from: Nahda on September 03, 2010, 06:45 AM
    Islam must be the true religion because it is the only one that has the courage to explicitly claim that.


    Lmao Wait, what?  you think that sounds like a logical deduction?   Cheesy

    Ok, I explicitly and with oodles of courage, proclaim the religion of berbs to be the one true religion.

    There, does that make mine real?   Roll Eyes

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     Islam must be the true religion, because Islam did not start at the time of the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) but it started since humanity began, since Adam (A.S.)..


    Proof please?

    Oh wait, there is NO proof of this claim aside from the claim itself.



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    How many of you know that Islamic tradition states that Allah (S.W.T) sent more than 300,000 Prophets to humanity all over the world before the seal of the nectar, the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was born?


    Proof please?  not just the claim, where is the proof that backs up this claim?

    Excellent work sherlock.  Afro
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #64 - September 03, 2010, 01:28 PM
    Quote from: Nahda on September 03, 2010, 06:45 AM
    . How many of you know that Islamic tradition states that Allah (S.W.T) sent more than 300,000 Prophets to humanity all over the world before the seal of the nectar, the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) was born?


    Firstly, the claim is 124,000. Secondly, there were parts of the world where for centuries, after Mo died, they had not a clue of what Islam was. Thirdly, I seriously hope you are a troll, because otherwise you'd better go back to school, and soon.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #65 - September 03, 2010, 01:38 PM
    "Seal of the nectar" sounds a little Nigella-esqe, no?

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #66 - September 03, 2010, 08:52 PM
    i'm a muslim, born into a muslim family which isn't at all conservative, they practically taught me nothing about islam. i always felt it was necessary to learn about what i believe in, so i started searching online, i've read views of muslim, non-muslims, and now i'm reading yours (the ex-muslims) , and the more i read, the more i fall in love with islam, and the more i don't understand what u guys hate about it
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #67 - September 03, 2010, 09:07 PM
    Reading this thread, I dont think i'v ever truly 'been' a Muslim. Born into a Muslim family, I only read the Quran cus the bloke I was sent to would hit me n it fuckin hurt (theres one thing there, why the hell can random old bearded men hit children?), but i never bothered to lern to prey - I would do the motions at mosque when I coudnt think of an excuse not to go whilst thinking of my next night out or something. But being born into a muslim family, they think your born a muslim...impossible
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #68 - September 03, 2010, 09:09 PM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 08:52 PM
    i'm a muslim, born into a muslim family which isn't at all conservative, they practically taught me nothing about islam. i always felt it was necessary to learn about what i believe in, so i started searching online, i've read views of muslim, non-muslims, and now i'm reading yours (the ex-muslims) , and the more i read, the more i fall in love with islam, and the more i don't understand what u guys hate about it


    just out of curiosity, what do you love about it?

    Sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask this person that question... whistling2
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #69 - September 03, 2010, 09:11 PM
    No, its okay here, Triant.  Btw, I've just looked up which country you live in and am shocked that you were being hit at qur'an school.  Unless you were raised in the 1950s I think that was probly illegal. Angry
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #70 - September 03, 2010, 09:19 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on September 03, 2010, 09:11 PM
    No, its okay here, Triant.  Btw, I've just looked up which country you live in and am shocked that you were being hit at qur'an school.  Unless you were raised in the 1950s I think that was probly illegal. Angry

    It's actually pretty common. Quite a lot of the people that teach Arabic are born and raised in countries that don't find it objectionable to hit kids.
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

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    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #71 - September 03, 2010, 09:24 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on September 03, 2010, 09:11 PM
    No, its okay here, Triant.  Btw, I've just looked up which country you live in and am shocked that you were being hit at qur'an school.  Unless you were raised in the 1950s I think that was probly illegal. Angry


    Oh definetly illegal. Wasnt even Quran school as such - just an old guy with a beard's living room, 30 kids between 7 and 13. My family used to make jokes about it - "oh look at him, he looks upset, haji-ji must have hit him today," rather than having the morals to question why a 60 year old man can hit me...looking back at it, i'd quite like to go up to this bloke and give him one back  Afro
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #72 - September 03, 2010, 09:26 PM
    I think you very fucking should, that's  disgusting.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #73 - September 03, 2010, 09:48 PM
    Whatever. I got paddled in my school. Big deal. Not like I got beaten to a pulp or got raped or anything.
    fuck you
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #74 - September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    i love the fact that whenever i have doubt about something, i always end up finding an answer. i love the fact that it's a great religion, a huge one too, covering all the aspects of our lives. All i learned about islam in my school and university afterwards was how to be peaceful, how to treat your friends, neighbors, enemies, the poor and the rich, how to stand by your brothers and sisters when they need it, how islam condemns all the bad habits, how it encourages science, respect of parents and family, patience, modesty in clothing, i could go on and on about this!! And it always shocks me how people forget about all these stuff and concentrate on usually-misunderstood- details!!

    islam is very under-estimated
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #75 - September 03, 2010, 09:55 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on September 03, 2010, 09:48 PM
    Whatever. I got paddled in my school. Big deal. Not like I got beaten to a pulp or got raped or anything.


    it hurt, yea, thats not hte point, im jus lookin at how he had no right...it shudnt be a big deal but it pisses me off none the less
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #76 - September 03, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on September 03, 2010, 09:48 PM
    Whatever. I got paddled in my school. Big deal. Not like I got beaten to a pulp or got raped or anything.


    If I had a kid and anyone other than me or its father hit it, I'd go ape shit.  I wouldn't wait for it to get to the beaten to the pulp/raped stage before I saw it as a big deal.
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #77 - September 03, 2010, 10:08 PM
    The beauty of having parents who allowed me to decide what i believed was that I could fuse different traditions together to form my views, I see too much stifling of creativity in religious households, which leads to hellholes. If we could use out creativity for good instead of hijacking it or quashing it, I see hope, as it is now I see people's beauty being squandered all in the name of politics and memes, instead of in the name of a collective bettering of the human condition.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #78 - September 04, 2010, 02:20 AM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    i love the fact that whenever i have doubt about something, i always end up finding an answer.

    this is so cute. I suggest reading about cognitive dissonance

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    how to be peaceful, how to treat your friends, neighbors, enemies, the poor and the rich, how to stand by your brothers and sisters when they need it, how islam condemns all the bad habits, how it encourages science, respect of parents and family, patience, modesty in clothing

    You can still have them as a non-muslim you know... It's just, you don't get to go to jannah for them.  Cry
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #79 - September 04, 2010, 02:29 AM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    i love the fact that whenever i have doubt about something, i always end up finding an answer. i love the fact that it's a great religion, a huge one too, covering all the aspects of our lives. All i learned about islam in my school and university afterwards was how to be peaceful, how to treat your friends, neighbors, enemies, the poor and the rich, how to stand by your brothers and sisters when they need it, how islam condemns all the bad habits, how it encourages science, respect of parents and family, patience, modesty in clothing, i could go on and on about this!! And it always shocks me how people forget about all these stuff and concentrate on usually-misunderstood- details!!

    islam is very under-estimated



    Most Muslims reject the scientific fact of evolution. I also fail to see how Islam encourages science, most of the technoligical advancements of the modern era were made by filthy kaffirs. Oh, and all those things that you listed can be done by non-Muslims too.
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #80 - September 04, 2010, 02:46 AM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    i love the fact that whenever i have doubt about something, i always end up finding an answer.

    So you just want ready-made answers?  You don't care if they are the right answers?

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    how it encourages science

    Gimme a break!!

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    modesty in clothing

    To me, modesty means not standing out like a sore thumb, and not being pretentious about yourself.  By that definition, the niqab is not exactly modest.

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    And it always shocks me how people forget about all these stuff and concentrate on usually-misunderstood- details!!

    Again, read IsLame's blog.  He quotes from authentic Islamic sources.
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #81 - September 04, 2010, 03:21 AM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    how it encourages science


    Muslims make up 20% of the worlds population, and contribute 1% of the worlds scientific papers.

    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 09:51 PM
    islam is very under-estimated


    Or overrated, depending on how you look at it.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #82 - September 04, 2010, 03:24 AM
    Quote from: Ishina on September 04, 2010, 03:21 AM
    Muslims make up 20% of the worlds population, and contribute 1% of the worlds scientific papers.


    That one percent of papers are probably about the benefits of drinking camel piss.

    http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/83423
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #83 - September 04, 2010, 03:37 AM
    Um... we are apes.

    Edit: Hmm, did the post before me get deleted or did I post in the wrong thread? lol
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #84 - September 04, 2010, 03:40 AM
    .
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #85 - September 04, 2010, 03:41 AM
    Being Muslim always felt like I was the victim of some prank show pretending it was real just in case waiting for someone to point to me any minute where the hidden camera was so I could laugh my way out of that awkward situation an go home.
    And it is Athaan actually "th" pronounced as in "the".
    "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not."
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #86 - September 04, 2010, 03:51 AM
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    how to treat your friends


    Muslim friends. Muslims do not take non-muslims as friends. Being friends with somebody because you share the faith is a hollow form of friendship, if you ask me.

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    the poor


    Last time I checked, Muslims usually (most of the time) give charity to Muslims only. Look at the 2004 earthquake. Muslims gave money to the Indonesians, but did not give a fuck about the non muslim victims in Sri Lanka or Thailand. Everytime there is shit going on in Gaza, or Afghanistan, Muslims are quick to give charity, but if its kuffar, such as the 2010 Haiti earthquake, or any  other disaster affecting non-muslims, they never give money.

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    how islam condemns all the bad habits


    What do you mean by "bad habits"?

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    how it encourages science


    Don't bother posting Dr Maurice Baucaille garbage here. Please. lol

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    respect of parents and family
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  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #87 - September 04, 2010, 03:53 AM
    Fuck this stupid quoting system.
    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #88 - September 04, 2010, 03:55 AM
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    modesty in clothing


    If one has to go out of their way to look modest, than it is not modesty. Covering yourself from head to toe looking like a pepper shaker is not modesty.










    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: Why were you a muslim?
     Reply #89 - September 04, 2010, 08:36 AM
    Quote from: luna_90 on September 03, 2010, 08:52 PM
    i'm a muslim, born into a muslim family which isn't at all conservative, they practically taught me nothing about islam. i always felt it was necessary to learn about what i believe in, so i started searching online, i've read views of muslim, non-muslims, and now i'm reading yours (the ex-muslims) , and the more i read, the more i fall in love with islam, and the more i don't understand what u guys hate about it


    That actually makes me feel quite sick TBH.

    You read about mohammed allowing his men to rape the captives they took from the other tribes they destroyed, and you love it more?

    What sort of nice, kind, peaceful person does that really make you luna?
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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