Actually BD, it is intellectual dishonesty on your part when you accept the opinion of the fundies on certain Hadiths but not the others... At least I'm consistent with the opinion of one group which existed 1300 years ago... in your case you're jumping between what fundis say, what orientalists say, Shia opinions and Sunni opinions, etc, etc... whatever matches your desires, you follow...
Besides, tell me: you're an ex-Shia, right? You should criticize Shia Hadith! Why do you bring Hadiths believed to be true by Sunnis?
Besides, ask any fundi what does the hadith regarding the silence of the virgin girl means... why do you keep hopping from one opinion, to another, from one sect to another... I cannot respect that.
No mate, you are choosing one group and discarding some of the things they said. You know which ones.
I am not jumping between anything, I am trying to gather the most accurate picture I can. I hardly think every Shia doctrine is sane, and therefore I look at Sunni sources, and the Sunni doctrine has some insane stuff so I look at the Shia. The world is not black and white. And neither is faith. Since I don't believe in the divine at least not for religion, nobody has the hold on truth. I look at every opinion and see what they base it on. And I gather my information from the whole. Maybe I miss something?
And I do criticize Shia Hadith, with the ex-Shia muslims. Or you think I think intercession from Imam Ali makes sense?
This is the problem with Islam, this sectarian strife. That a man can't say I am simply a muslim, neither Sunni nor Shia. With intellectual integrity, since the sectarian strife began right after Mohammed died. And has formed both Sunni Islam and Shia Islam.
AND you know and I know that the Shia scholars and the Sunni scholars pick and choose from the respective hadiths collections to prove their point.
IE everybody does this, you do, I do, and they do. We all form our own opinions in the end. I'm just trying to get a larger picture than usual.
And to round it off, the Shia scholars have never said Aisha was not 9, either 9 or 10 when Mohammed consummated the marriage. I am pretty sure the Sunni scholars say the same.
And lol at an ex-shia muslim. and ex-sunni muslim. Wow even when we apostatize are we to become sectarian? Talk about tribalistic.
It's like asking an Irish atheist what kind of atheist he is, Protestant or Catholic. You don't find that to be ridiculous?
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