To speak or not to speak

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To speak or not to speak
OP - March 02, 2010, 12:06 PM

27:83 - And (remind them of) the Day when We shall gather out of every nation a host of those WHO DENIED OUR REVELATIONS...
27:84 - Till, when they come (before their Lord), He will say: DID YE DENY MY REVELATIONS
27:85 - And the Word will be fulfilled concerning them because they have done wrong, and THEY WILL NOT SPEAK

So when asked about their disbelief the unbelievers will not speak, however later it says:

46:34 - And on the day when THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE are exposed to the Fire (they will be asked): Is not this real? THEY WILL SAY: Yea, by our Lord!

But here it says that they will say "Yeah by our Lord!"

I suspect the Muslims' answer will be "when he says the first thing they will not speak, but when he says the 2nd thing they will", but it looks to me that in essence these are the same question. There are many contradictions I have found so far, I just wondered what people thought about this one? Maybe there are additional clues if you are able to read the Arabic?

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Re: To speak or not to speak
Reply #1 - March 02, 2010, 12:43 PM

Good find!

Wish I had more to add but haven't read the Qu'ran in years plus my Arabic is at pre-school level at best.

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Reply #2 - March 02, 2010, 01:09 PM

Quote from: Nour on March 02, 2010, 12:43 PM
Good find!

Wish I had more to add but haven't read the Qu'ran in years plus my Arabic is at pre-school level at best.

I'm only as far as Sura 27 and have about 15 contradictions noted, numerous errors too. My favourite ones are were the same conversation is contradicted more than once. I intend to do a youtube video about that

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Reply #3 - March 02, 2010, 01:20 PM

Oh i will speak! I will scream in his face!

"SO YOU FUCKHEAD ARE REAL AND DIDNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE POOR CHILDREN DIEING EVERYWHERE?! KKTHXBYE!" and go to hell

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Reply #4 - March 03, 2010, 10:41 PM

I found the answer in the Quran (did you know the answer to everything is in that book?). It says later that the unbelievers will not be able to speak so they will use their hands to talk, and their feet will testify against them

I wonder what happens if you are born with no hands or feet?

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Reply #5 - March 04, 2010, 09:38 AM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on March 03, 2010, 10:41 PM
I wonder what happens if you are born with no hands or feet?

Ever heard of Phantom limbs? Yeah, they will do the testifying, too.

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Reply #6 - March 04, 2010, 12:12 PM

Quote from: Aziz on March 04, 2010, 09:38 AM
Ever heard of Phantom limbs? Yeah, they will do the testifying, too.

I am going to start a youtube series entitled "Why the Quran is silly" and seeing as this is very silly and easy to do I suspect it is going to be the first in the series

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