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  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #570 - May 07, 2008, 04:04 PM

    *snort*





    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • What is up with the gym?
     Reply #571 - May 07, 2008, 05:54 PM

    I am confused, why does going to the gym make me so low after?  I thought exercise was supposed to help with depression, and the first few times I went I did actually leave there feeling high and happy.

    However everytime since has been a case of me finishing my workout (trying to ignore everyone) and stepping outside only to feel a drop, a sinking feeling where I have actually felt really tearful.  I don't get why I want to cry when I leave the gym, it's become quite regular and is beginning to put me off going because of the emotional wreck I seem to be when I leave.

    I have even gone in, in a good mood, been fine whilst exercising, but just sinking within moments of leaving, honestly it happens so rapidly.  I have actually got home and started crying  Shocked, WTF is up with that?

    It makes no sense, anyone ever hear of something like this before?

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #572 - May 07, 2008, 05:56 PM

    I am confused, why does going to the gym make me so low after?  I thought exercise was supposed to help with depression, and the first few times I went I did actually leave there feeling high and happy.

    However everytime since has been a case of me finishing my workout (trying to ignore everyone) and stepping outside only to feel a drop, a sinking feeling where I have actually felt really tearful.  I don't get why I want to cry when I leave the gym, it's become quite regular and is beginning to put me off going because of the emotional wreck I seem to be when I leave.

    I have even gone in, in a good mood, been fine whilst exercising, but just sinking within moments of leaving, honestly it happens so rapidly.  I have actually got home and started crying  Shocked, WTF is up with that?

    It makes no sense, anyone ever hear of something like this before?

    doesn´t happen like that to me... usually, I feel less stressed or depressed, when I come out... maybe you should discuss this with your doc, Berbs? It could be connected to your giving up of your anti-depressants?
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #573 - May 07, 2008, 05:58 PM


    doesn´t happen like that to me... usually, I feel less stressed or depressed, when I come out... maybe you should discuss this with your doc, Berbs? It could be connected to your giving up of your anti-depressants?



    My doctor gave me new medication to try, and I was feeling so bad recently that I took them.  (the side effects are awful)  It could be because I quit those anti depressants, that was bad, I'm actually on new ones now.  I'm not keen at all on these new ones.  I just want to get better.  beatdeadhorse

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #574 - May 07, 2008, 06:02 PM


    doesn´t happen like that to me... usually, I feel less stressed or depressed, when I come out... maybe you should discuss this with your doc, Berbs? It could be connected to your giving up of your anti-depressants?



    My doctor gave me new medication to try, and I was feeling so bad recently that I took them.  (the side effects are awful)  It could be because I quit those anti depressants, that was bad, I'm actually on new ones now.  I'm not keen at all on these new ones.  I just want to get better.  beatdeadhorse


    Awww... man!! Wish I could help you, Berbs! Talk to him, though, about the effect of the gym... maybe those new anti-depressants aren´t a good idea? doesn´t sound, like they help, does it?
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #575 - May 07, 2008, 06:05 PM



    Awww... man!! Wish I could help you, Berbs! Talk to him, though, about the effect of the gym... maybe those new anti-depressants aren´t a good idea? doesn´t sound, like they help, does it?


    Yeah, I'm going to see him again.  These new anti depressants are AWFUL  wacko, I'm not keen on them.  Tbh honest I just want him to wean me off the whole lot of them once and for all, I really shouldn't have tried to stop cold turkey last time, that sent me over the edge.  Cry

    How stupid am I at times?  I should have made a connection between that and the gym reactions.  Cheesy

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #576 - May 07, 2008, 06:11 PM



    Awww... man!! Wish I could help you, Berbs! Talk to him, though, about the effect of the gym... maybe those new anti-depressants aren´t a good idea? doesn´t sound, like they help, does it?


    Yeah, I'm going to see him again.  These new anti depressants are AWFUL  wacko, I'm not keen on them.  Tbh honest I just want him to wean me off the whole lot of them once and for all, I really shouldn't have tried to stop cold turkey last time, that sent me over the edge.  Cry

    How stupid am I at times?  I should have made a connection between that and the gym reactions.  Cheesy

    ah, bah! you´re not stupid... just no doc! and I think, weaning you off the stuff is a good idea... exercise gives you natural endorphines (or should). Much better for you, than that artificial stuff... I think, anyway. All the best for you, anyway... and do keep up the gym-stuff! I am being slack (can´t make it more than about once a week, instead of 3 times, as I want, sniff... am getting old, and probably fat, soon!)... you must make up for that, lol!  Wink
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #577 - May 07, 2008, 06:22 PM

    Heh, I haven't exactly been getting there regular enough either, real life hasn't given me the time or child support lol.

    I want to get back on track though.

    You know, I saw my personal trainer today (the one I liked lol) when I was out and about, he smiled at me (one of those  Wink smiles) and I just blanked him, acted like I didn't recognise him at all and walked past him  Shocked, what is wrong with me? banghead


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #578 - May 07, 2008, 06:26 PM

    Heh, I haven't exactly been getting there regular enough either, real life hasn't given me the time or child support lol.

    I want to get back on track though.

    You know, I saw my personal trainer today (the one I liked lol) when I was out and about, he smiled at me (one of those  Wink smiles) and I just blanked him, acted like I didn't recognise him at all and walked past him  Shocked, what is wrong with me? banghead




    I suppose, you are simply afraid of not being able to handle any "situation"... I know the feeling. Many a man I pushed back, without really meaning to, sigh...
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #579 - May 07, 2008, 06:33 PM



    I suppose, you are simply afraid of not being able to handle any "situation"... I know the feeling. Many a man I pushed back, without really meaning to, sigh...


    Yeah, I think it's something like that.  I honestly wouldn't mind having a bit of fun now, being made to laugh by someone other than myself  Cheesy, you know, having some of that instant happiness that comes in the very beginning of dating someone you like.  But I honestly dread the rest, the shit stuff when the cracks show later on and you just want out.  So there is not point in showing that his obvious (seriously I can tell he is attracted to me, he certainly phoned often enough during the holidays when I couldn't make it aksing when I was coming back in  cool2 plus I can just tell, there is something there lol, well anyway what's the point in showing I could be interested back?  it will all end in tears, most likely his because I'm so screwed up.  Roll Eyes

    Yet I don't know, I honestly wanted to smack myself for not returning his sexy smile lol but no, I have to go and panic and walk past him like a twat banghead

    I will smile back next time, I will be more confident, I swear I will.  Cheesy




    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #580 - May 07, 2008, 06:37 PM

    How crazy is this thinking, I honestly know it's just sex I would want off of him because I'm already doing him in my head  Lmao, but I also don't want to be someone who just sleeps around because I'm still sort of old fashioned.  Meh.  wacko

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #581 - May 07, 2008, 06:38 PM

    I am confused, why does going to the gym make me so low after?  I thought exercise was supposed to help with depression, and the first few times I went I did actually leave there feeling high and happy.

    However everytime since has been a case of me finishing my workout (trying to ignore everyone) and stepping outside only to feel a drop, a sinking feeling where I have actually felt really tearful.  I don't get why I want to cry when I leave the gym, it's become quite regular and is beginning to put me off going because of the emotional wreck I seem to be when I leave.

    I have even gone in, in a good mood, been fine whilst exercising, but just sinking within moments of leaving, honestly it happens so rapidly.  I have actually got home and started crying  Shocked, WTF is up with that?

    It makes no sense, anyone ever hear of something like this before?



    What sort of training are you doing?  At what intensity, how many days a week, for how long?

    It sounds quite a bit like over-training to me. Or, it could be a drug reaction, that seems quite plausible.

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #582 - May 07, 2008, 06:40 PM



    I suppose, you are simply afraid of not being able to handle any "situation"... I know the feeling. Many a man I pushed back, without really meaning to, sigh...


    Yeah, I think it's something like that.  I honestly wouldn't mind having a bit of fun now, being made to laugh by someone other than myself  Cheesy, you know, having some of that instant happiness that comes in the very beginning of dating someone you like.  But I honestly dread the rest, the shit stuff when the cracks show later on and you just want out.  So there is not point in showing that his obvious (seriously I can tell he is attracted to me, he certainly phoned often enough during the holidays when I couldn't make it aksing when I was coming back in  cool2 plus I can just tell, there is something there lol, well anyway what's the point in showing I could be interested back?  it will all end in tears, most likely his because I'm so screwed up.  Roll Eyes

    Yet I don't know, I honestly wanted to smack myself for not returning his sexy smile lol but no, I have to go and panic and walk past him like a twat banghead

    I will smile back next time, I will be more confident, I swear I will.  Cheesy






    Ohhhh... that indeed sounds like he is interested! Well - always told you, you are a hot babe, so no wonder!
    IF you like him back... just go slow, Berbs... no need to think of how you´ll end in tears and horror in the divorce courts or worse, before you even got to know each other properly, no? Keep telling yourself - a smile is just a smile is just a smile...
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #583 - May 07, 2008, 06:41 PM




    What sort of training are you doing?  At what intensity, how many days a week, for how long?

    It sounds quite a bit like over-training to me. Or, it could be a drug reaction, that seems quite plausible.


    I'm just a beginner, so it's not high intensity or anything (even though I swear it gets harder each time I go rather than easier  Roll Eyes).  It's 3 times a week for about an hour, bike, treadmill, crosstrainer, different weights, one of those mad yoga balls lol that sort of thing.  Plus I often take a bike ride these days to go places I used to take the bus to get to because it saves money, and it's actually quite fun.


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #584 - May 07, 2008, 06:42 PM

    How crazy is this thinking, I honestly know it's just sex I would want off of him because I'm already going him in my head  Lmao, but I also don't want to be someone who just sleeps around because I'm still sort of old fashioned.  Meh.  wacko


    your "going" him in your head means, you could imagine having sex with him, not that it´s ONLY sex you want. And I don´t think, "just sex" is what is good for you, Berbs... in many, many ways. For one - told you about the effects on self-respect etc... been there, done that.

    for now - why not just enjoy his admiration and a bit of flirtation? keep it light and lighthearted, and see what happens...
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #585 - May 07, 2008, 06:45 PM


    Ohhhh... that indeed sounds like he is interested! Well - always told you, you are a hot babe, so no wonder!
    IF you like him back... just go slow, Berbs... no need to think of how you´ll end in tears and horror in the divorce courts or worse, before you even got to know each other properly, no? Keep telling yourself - a smile is just a smile is just a smile...


    I'm just so shy man  Cheesy, can you believe it?  ME, Shy?  Cheesy 

    Honestly, I'm 31, you would think I could do better than ignoring or going bright red when spoken to.  I was blushing on the phone when he called!!!!!!  Cheesy

    Ah whatever, first things first, sort out my creeping aversion to going to the gym because of the mood shift after, THEN smile back, just smile back, try not to sexualise him as a way to keep him at arms length, just smile back lol

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #586 - May 07, 2008, 06:47 PM


    your "going" him in your head means, you could imagine having sex with him, not that it´s ONLY sex you want. And I don´t think, "just sex" is what is good for you, Berbs... in many, many ways. For one - told you about the effects on self-respect etc... been there, done that.

    for now - why not just enjoy his admiration and a bit of flirtation? keep it light and lighthearted, and see what happens...


    Was a typo, I meant doing him in my head.  Cheesy

    Actually after I typed that, I sort of realised that I do like him a bit more than just sexually, I was just doing what I do which is to sexualise it, therefore cheapening it before it even started as a way of putting me off.  It's worked a few times now lol (this is all in my head by the way, don't even need to have sex with someone to sexualise and cheapen it before you start)


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #587 - May 07, 2008, 06:49 PM


    Ohhhh... that indeed sounds like he is interested! Well - always told you, you are a hot babe, so no wonder!
    IF you like him back... just go slow, Berbs... no need to think of how you´ll end in tears and horror in the divorce courts or worse, before you even got to know each other properly, no? Keep telling yourself - a smile is just a smile is just a smile...


    I'm just so shy man  Cheesy, can you believe it?  ME, Shy?  Cheesy 

    Honestly, I'm 31, you would think I could do better than ignoring or going bright red when spoken to.  I was blushing on the phone when he called!!!!!!  Cheesy

    Ah whatever, first things first, sort out my creeping aversion to going to the gym because of the mood shift after, THEN smile back, just smile back, try not to sexualise him as a way to keep him at arms length, just smile back lol


    trust me, Berbs - I know VERY WELL how it feels... been there, done that. (gosh, I could tell you STORIES about how I turn into a complete moron when a man shows any sort of interest I don´t think I can handle... why do you think, my prince was a cyber-prince, lol? and even with HIM I was shy at first...).
    about first things first is RIGHT!
    - keep going to gym
    - try and keep cool/smiling around him, even if only outside... it will get easier and easier.
    - and yes, just think of him as a human, who maybe feels just as nervous about being rejected by someone he likes. Can´t be that easy, being a man, and being expected to be the one to risk rejection...
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #588 - May 07, 2008, 06:50 PM




    What sort of training are you doing?  At what intensity, how many days a week, for how long?

    It sounds quite a bit like over-training to me. Or, it could be a drug reaction, that seems quite plausible.


    I'm just a beginner, so it's not high intensity or anything (even though I swear it gets harder each time I go rather than easier  Roll Eyes).  It's 3 times a week for about an hour, bike, treadmill, crosstrainer, different weights, one of those mad yoga balls lol that sort of thing.  Plus I often take a bike ride these days to go places I used to take the bus to get to because it saves money, and it's actually quite fun.




    Hmm...sounds more like it is probably the antidepressants. All the switching, going cold-turkey, etc., has probably thrown your endocrine system all out of whack. Just keep going, once things settle down, and you find an AD that works for you, it'll probably go away.

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #589 - May 07, 2008, 06:51 PM


    your "going" him in your head means, you could imagine having sex with him, not that it´s ONLY sex you want. And I don´t think, "just sex" is what is good for you, Berbs... in many, many ways. For one - told you about the effects on self-respect etc... been there, done that.

    for now - why not just enjoy his admiration and a bit of flirtation? keep it light and lighthearted, and see what happens...


    Was a typo, I meant doing him in my head.  Cheesy

    Actually after I typed that, I sort of realised that I do like him a bit more than just sexually, I was just doing what I do which is to sexualise it, therefore cheapening it before it even started as a way of putting me off.  It's worked a few times now lol (this is all in my head by the way, don't even need to have sex with someone to sexualise and cheapen it before you start)




    I realised that, Berbs... been around the block myself, you know!  Wink ... you´re doing fine! don´t give up.  Smiley
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #590 - May 07, 2008, 06:54 PM

    What dio said.  yes

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #591 - May 07, 2008, 06:56 PM

    Can´t be that easy, being a man, and being expected to be the one to risk rejection...


    Hey, women have to breed, I think them having to ask us out is the least they can do.  Wink

    I will though, I'm more concerned with the gym, I really don't want to give up on this, and I want to feel that rush I had the first few times I went gym, that actually made me happier than all the medication does.  Roll Eyes  So sort that out, get into a pattern.  Try not to panic everytime I see mr sexy, and ignore him some more.  Honestly that would be best, I haven't got the time in my life right now for all of those shennanigans.  Last thing I need is that.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #592 - May 07, 2008, 06:57 PM



    Hmm...sounds more like it is probably the antidepressants. All the switching, going cold-turkey, etc., has probably thrown your endocrine system all out of whack. Just keep going, once things settle down, and you find an AD that works for you, it'll probably go away.


    Yeah good points, I really never think of these things straight off the bat, and they say I'm meant to be inuitive.  Roll Eyes lol

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #593 - May 07, 2008, 06:59 PM

    Can´t be that easy, being a man, and being expected to be the one to risk rejection...


    Hey, women have to breed, I think them having to ask us out is the least they can do.  Wink

    I will though, I'm more concerned with the gym, I really don't want to give up on this, and I want to feel that rush I had the first few times I went gym, that actually made me happier than all the medication does.  Roll Eyes  So sort that out, get into a pattern.  Try not to panic everytime I see mr sexy, and ignore him some more.  Honestly that would be best, I haven't got the time in my life right now for all of those shennanigans.  Last thing I need is that.

    didn´t say it wasn´t the least they could do... just that it can´t always be easy. I , for one, sure am not making it so for any man! Cheesy
    as for the rest - quite! Gym is the main thing. The rest will sort itself in due time. Smiley
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #594 - May 07, 2008, 07:00 PM

    Can´t be that easy, being a man, and being expected to be the one to risk rejection...


    Hey, women have to breed, I think them having to ask us out is the least they can do.  Wink

    I will though, I'm more concerned with the gym, I really don't want to give up on this, and I want to feel that rush I had the first few times I went gym, that actually made me happier than all the medication does.  Roll Eyes  So sort that out, get into a pattern.  Try not to panic everytime I see mr sexy, and ignore him some more.  Honestly that would be best, I haven't got the time in my life right now for all of those shennanigans.  Last thing I need is that.



    It isn't easy, especially when you're as Seksy as I am.   whistling2

    It took me till I was 35 to get my life remotely together.

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: What is up with the gym?
     Reply #595 - May 07, 2008, 07:02 PM



    Hmm...sounds more like it is probably the antidepressants. All the switching, going cold-turkey, etc., has probably thrown your endocrine system all out of whack. Just keep going, once things settle down, and you find an AD that works for you, it'll probably go away.


    Yeah good points, I really never think of these things straight off the bat, and they say I'm meant to be inuitive.  Roll Eyes lol



    Intuitive doesn't necessarily mean you're in tune with yourself. As I said,  it took me till I was thirty five.

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #596 - May 07, 2008, 07:06 PM


    didn´t say it wasn´t the least they could do... just that it can´t always be easy. I , for one, sure am not making it so for any man! Cheesy
    as for the rest - quite! Gym is the main thing. The rest will sort itself in due time. Smiley


     Afro  Yep, good plan.  Now if only I could get a good massage, my muscles, bones, complete body is all killing me.  Cheesy


    It isn't easy, especially when you're as Seksy as I am.   whistling2

    It took me till I was 35 to get my life remotely together.


    Well, I'll be 35 in 3 and a half years, I hope I have made more headway than the last 4 yrs of my life, being sexy just isn't enough.  dance

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #597 - May 07, 2008, 07:11 PM


    didn´t say it wasn´t the least they could do... just that it can´t always be easy. I , for one, sure am not making it so for any man! Cheesy
    as for the rest - quite! Gym is the main thing. The rest will sort itself in due time. Smiley


     Afro  Yep, good plan.  Now if only I could get a good massage, my muscles, bones, complete body is all killing me.  Cheesy


    It isn't easy, especially when you're as Seksy as I am.   whistling2

    It took me till I was 35 to get my life remotely together.


    Well, I'll be 35 in 3 and a half years, I hope I have made more headway than the last 4 yrs of my life, being sexy just isn't enough.  dance


    Sure it is, I'm dead seksy...people throw goodies at me.  Wink


    You are still young Grasshopper...

    And ahead of the game from my point of view, at your age I still had my head up my ass about what was important in life. (pretty picture eh?)

     grin12

    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #598 - May 07, 2008, 07:15 PM


    Sure it is, I'm dead seksy...people throw goodies at me.  Wink


    You are still young Grasshopper...

    And ahead of the game from my point of view, at your age I still had my head up my ass about what was important in life. (pretty picture eh?)

     grin12


     Cheesy

     Yeah, I just get these moments where I need to Snap out of it, and be patient, because with age comes wisdom and I am certainly aging at a rapid rate.  Wink

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Berbs Blog, much madness within
     Reply #599 - May 07, 2008, 07:21 PM

    Ok, tonights plan is to have a lovely bubble bath and wash todays stress out of my hair, snuggle in my pyjamas and my blanket with a nice cup of vanilla hot chocolate, and the entire season 2 of the 4400 series.  dance  I'm so excited, what a thrilling ride my life can be at times.  Ozonedance

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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