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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #30 - March 29, 2010, 07:16 PM
     Cheesy Good advice abuyunus! No more promiscuity for Hassan, time to put my boy in line!
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #31 - March 29, 2010, 07:19 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 29, 2010, 05:33 PM
    Allat - boy dont you & nessrriinnn share a lot in common - both apostates, same country, same gender & simlar age group, same interest in poetry, are you sure you're not the same person?


    I've been asked that by a couple of people so I'm wondering that too now!  grin12

    Nessrriinn, are we the same person? LOL.

    If you're in Canada (Toronto), we must find a way to hang out!
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #32 - March 29, 2010, 07:21 PM
    Oh wow, nesrin is canadian? We have such awesome ex-muslims.  dance

    America and UK can shove it!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #33 - March 29, 2010, 07:26 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:14 PM
    Peru, be sure to hang the whip where Hassan can see it, keep that mo fo in line.



    That was funny, mate Cheesy

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #34 - March 29, 2010, 07:27 PM
    Quote from: PeruvianSkies on March 29, 2010, 07:16 PM
    Cheesy Good advice abuyunus! No more promiscuity for Hassan, time to put my boy in line!


    Promiscuity?... The chance would be a fine thing!
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #35 - March 29, 2010, 07:28 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 07:15 PM
    What do you think about Nesrin's vid abuyunus? Smiley


    I thought it was a wonderfully eloquent video - she's cool. Makes Hassan's 'Im an ex-Muslim' vid seem a bit lame  grin12.
    Although of course I personally do beleive that some of the wonderful emotions she describes that we humans posess must come from some sort of supernatural being - in my veiw that being is God. Some people use religion to oppress others and deny others their freedom - me and many Muslims are of course are against people who incorrectly, for whatever reason, use religion in this manner.
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #36 - March 29, 2010, 07:31 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:28 PM
    I thought it was a wonderfully eloquent video - she's cool. Makes Hassan's 'Im an ex-Muslim' vid seem a bit lame  grin12.
    Although of course I personally do beleive that some of the wonderful emotions she describes that we humans posess must come from some sort of supernatural being - in my veiw that being is God. Some people use religion to oppress others and deny others their freedom - me and many Muslims are of course are against people who incorrectly, for whatever reason, use religion in this manner.


    I just want ppl to know that Abu Yunus is not unique - he remind me of many wonderful Muslims I know - which is probably why I like him so much - I hope ppl keep that in mind when they see vids of fuckwits saying shit - the internet is not the real world.
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #37 - March 29, 2010, 07:33 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:28 PM
    I thought it was a wonderfully eloquent video - she's cool. Makes Hassan's 'Im an ex-Muslim' vid seem a bit lame  grin12.
    Although of course I personally do beleive that some of the wonderful emotions she describes that we humans posess must come from some sort of supernatural being - in my veiw that being is God. Some people use religion to oppress others and deny others their freedom - me and many Muslims are of course are against people who incorrectly, for whatever reason, use religion in this manner.


    What emotions exactly come from a supernatural being?

    People who use religion to oppress others are using religion correctly as it was intended anyways, so I don't see why it matters if a few fringe muslims (like yourself) believes Islam has compassionate ends. What matters is that in practice it is, and always has been, a force for evil.

    What you don't get is that Islam needs to be demolished, not reformed. Your beliefs are in vain. I'm afraids the ex-muslim vs muslim will be the dividing line of the future and your lot will always be a despised minority - not intellectually courageous enough to be an apostate and not commited and loyal enough to be a real muslim. Sorry, but thats the truth.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #38 - March 29, 2010, 07:39 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:28 PM
    Some people use religion to oppress others and deny others their freedom - me and many Muslims are of course are against people who incorrectly, for whatever reason, use religion in this manner.


    Doesn't their using religion to oppress others and deny others their freedom also come from God  Huh?
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #39 - March 29, 2010, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 07:21 PM
    Oh wow, nesrin is canadian? We have such awesome ex-muslims.  dance

    America and UK can shove it!

    You couldnt tell by her accent?  Get your ears cleaned out
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #40 - March 29, 2010, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 29, 2010, 07:31 PM
    I just want ppl to know that Abu Yunus is not unique - he remind me of many wonderful Muslims I know - which is probably why I like him so much - I hope ppl keep that in mind when they see vids of fuckwits saying shit - the internet is not the real world.

    Of course we understand that Hassan. You could also add The Tailor and debunker to the list among others. And my IRL friend Usman.

    @abuyunus2
    Why do you think this place is worth spending your time in? I suppose that there must be something valuable for you personally in this place otherwise you wouldn’t be posting here I guess. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad that you post here – in fact it would be great if we had more diversity of opinion in here.
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #41 - March 29, 2010, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 29, 2010, 07:46 PM
    You couldnt tell by her accent?  Get your ears cleaned out


    You can tell she's canadian just by her accent? Huh?
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #42 - March 29, 2010, 07:49 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 07:33 PM
    People who use religion to oppress others are using religion correctly as it was intended anyways, so I don't see why it matters if a few fringe muslims (like yourself) believes Islam has compassionate ends. What matters is that in practice it is, and always has been, a force for evil.

    What you don't get is that Islam needs to be demolished, not reformed. Your beliefs are in vain. I'm afraids the ex-muslim vs muslim will be the dividing line of the future and your lot will always be a despised minority - not intellectually courageous enough to be an apostate and not commited and loyal enough to be a real muslim. Sorry, but thats the truth.


    Harsh tings. You've got my number, I must say  Wink
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #43 - March 29, 2010, 07:50 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:49 PM
    Harsh tings. You've got my number, I must say  Wink

    Please I beg you! Don't chop his head off!
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #44 - March 29, 2010, 07:56 PM
     Roll Eyes ahh so abuyunus2 is a peaceful, moderate muslim... i used to be one of those.. one small step for man.. one giant leap for mankind is all it takes...
    thank you very much for you comment on the video...

    ehh!! i'm canadian!!..  dance that's ok ma bri2ish friends.. we got the same queen after all.. bas i don't have an accent!!! lol.. u do!!..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #45 - March 29, 2010, 07:57 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:49 PM
    Harsh tings. You've got my number, I must say  Wink

    I dont think its true - you will fit into the reformist group of muslims.  And by then it will probably mainstream Islam in the Western World, and wahhabists will be a niche minority.
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #46 - March 29, 2010, 07:57 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on March 29, 2010, 07:47 PM
    @abuyunus2
    Why do you think this place is worth spending your time in? I suppose that there must be something valuable for you personally in this place otherwise you wouldn’t be posting here I guess. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad that you post here – in fact it would be great if we had more diversity of opinion in here.



    I enjoy Iblis's cutting psychoanalysis of me. He's a charmer that one.

    My sister, who I love to bits, is an apostate. I can relate to you guys in some sort of manner at least.
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #47 - March 29, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 07:47 PM
    You can tell she's canadian just by her accent? Huh?

    Course, why, did you think she was African, Chinese or Pakistani?
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #48 - March 29, 2010, 07:59 PM
    Nah, Nesrin is thinking what I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be mean to AbuYunus, I'm just being harsh to push him to realise that he's an apostate in the making. Just join us already FFS!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #49 - March 29, 2010, 08:00 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 29, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Course, why, did you think she was African, Chinese or Pakistani?


    LOL

    Dude, Canadians and Americans sound practically the same. There is no way of telling her apart from your average American either.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #50 - March 29, 2010, 08:05 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:57 PM
    I enjoy Iblis's cutting psychoanalysis of me. He's a charmer that one.

    Youve got a wonderful jovial attitude to life - I wish I could be a little less sensitive and more like that.
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    My sister, who I love to bits, is an apostate. I can relate to you guys in some sort of manner at least.

    OMG! You took your time telling us that.  Why & how did you family take it, and has she kept it under wraps?  Why dont you tell her about this place, she might be able to draw some comfort from it..

    Doesnt all this anti-Islam stuff get on your nerves - I know it would have pissed me off, like I told you when you first joined.  How do you manage to stop yourself getting involved and defending Islam all the time, particularly when the outlandish claims are made that are blatantly exaggerated and biased?
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #51 - March 29, 2010, 08:07 PM
    This sounds like it'll be a long discussion. Do you guys want to start a new thread? Smiley
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #52 - March 29, 2010, 08:07 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 08:00 PM
    Dude, Canadians and Americans sound practically the same. There is no way of telling her apart from your average American either.

    I can tell them apart, in fact I am surprised you cant?
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  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #53 - March 29, 2010, 08:09 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 07:59 PM
    Nah, Nesrin is thinking what I'm thinking. I'm not trying to be mean to AbuYunus, I'm just being harsh to push him to realise that he's an apostate in the making. Just join us already FFS!


    I know being mean is not your intention Iblis. But I'd be lying if I said I felt I might become an apostate - although I am not arrogant enough to say never - if Hassan could become an apostate anyone could. I am loyal to my God, my creator, and loyal to my interpretation of Islam which I agree is non-orthodox but one that I have faith in.
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #54 - March 29, 2010, 08:10 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 07:57 PM
    My sister, who I love to bits, is an apostate. I can relate to you guys in some sort of manner at least.


    I knew there was something about you that reminded me of my (Muslim) brother. Like him you are having to deal with an apostate sibling.

    ps I love my brother, dearly as I'm sure your sister loves you.
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #55 - March 29, 2010, 08:12 PM
    abuyunus... the picture you chose for your avator is probably more like you than you think...
    it would be great wouldn't if we can pick and choose from these doctrines what we see fit and discard the rest...
    but we all know religion doesn't work that way...

    and yesss!! i wanna know about your sister as well.. and all that stuff IsLame said...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #56 - March 29, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Hey CEMB should offer support to families of ex-Muslims as well as to ex-Muslims  grin12
  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #57 - March 29, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on March 29, 2010, 08:09 PM
    I know being mean is not your intention Iblis. But I'd be lying if I said I felt I might become an apostate - although I am not arrogant enough to say never - if Hassan could become an apostate anyone could. I am loyal to my God, my creator, and loyal to my interpretation of Islam which I agree is non-orthodox but one that I have faith in.


    Meh. I think you need to decide which side your on. I don't think there is room for waffling when it comes to choosing between Islam and Humanism. Its a zero-sum game as far as I'm concerned. So that's the place I'm coming from. I came to a point in my life where I had to embrace Islam fully or reject it totally, I took the more difficult choice.

    Ah who am I kidding, the choice for *me* was easy and quite self-serving. But for others it can be a difficult choice. Which is why I often can get pissy on fence-sitters.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #58 - March 29, 2010, 08:14 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on March 29, 2010, 08:07 PM
    I can tell them apart, in fact I am surprised you cant?


    Uh no, aside from regional accents, there is no such thing as a "canadian" vs "american" accent. We sound the same.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Thank you CEMB!
     Reply #59 - March 29, 2010, 08:16 PM
    Quote from: Iblis on March 29, 2010, 08:13 PM
    I came to a point in my life where I had to embrace Islam fully or reject it totally, I took the more difficult choice


    Yes, me too - and I guess all of us here!
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