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  • Question: What kind of an Economic System do you prefer?
  • A 'survival of the fittest' type of economy where everyone has an equal opportunity to become financially wealthy - 9 (75%)
  • A 'everyone gets a share of the pie' type of economy and where none have a reason to become wealthier than any other person - 3 (25%)
  • Total Voters: 12

 Topic: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?

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  • What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     OP - April 07, 2010, 02:49 AM
    I'm for the first one. What's your opinion?
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #1 - April 07, 2010, 02:51 AM
    A bit of a shitty selection; I prefer a mixture of allowing people to achieve their full potential whilst helping those who need help because of no fault of their own.
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #2 - April 07, 2010, 02:51 AM
    Well thats kind of a simplistic way of looking at it. No country on earth is purely any of these. Except Bangladesh and the Congo I guess - those are pure survival of the fittest capitalistic societies. ROFL
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #3 - April 07, 2010, 02:55 AM
    Quote from: Iblis on April 07, 2010, 02:51 AM
    Well thats kind of a simplistic way of looking at it. No country on earth is purely any of these. Except Bangladesh and the Congo I guess - those are pure survival of the fittest capitalistic societies. ROFL


    yeah, but even then I would call them cronie capitalist - the same sort of cronie capitalism that resulted in the former Malaysian prime minister to blame 'teh juice' for the currency to fall through the flaw.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #4 - April 07, 2010, 02:56 AM
    These selections are very simplistic for a reason. There is a plethora of different selections I could put down, but there would simply be too many choices. I did my best to narrow them all down to two simple choices.

    Capitalism in a broad sense, can be described by the first selection. The second one is more of a socialist view.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #5 - April 07, 2010, 03:00 AM
    I'm kind of a middle of the road. i.e

    1) Everyone gets their basic needs met, i.e food, shelter, health care.
    2) Those who produce more value have all the opportunities to get as wealthy as they want.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #6 - April 07, 2010, 03:03 AM
    Thats how I see it too. But only if my personal wealth isn't touched to get #2 done (and I'm not talking about Taxes).

    For the most part, Capitalism, at least the way it's here in America is very middle of the road; despite what MM says.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #7 - April 07, 2010, 03:15 AM
    Paying taxes is fine by me as the price of living in a top class country.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #8 - April 07, 2010, 03:16 AM
    This poll is really to determine how many ultra socialists/MM types are here in this forum.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #9 - April 07, 2010, 03:34 AM
    There should be a 3rd option.

    The Sharia of Allah (swt).

    Just joking. But I didn't know which to pick. I'm somewhere in the middle, but I picked socialist, even though I'm not socialist.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #10 - April 07, 2010, 03:39 AM
    LoL then why did you pick Socialist?
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #11 - April 07, 2010, 03:46 AM
    I think in an economy where there is a limit for how much money people can make, there will be very little progress.

    For example, a lot of progress that happens is the result of enterpreneurs who come up with ideas to do things faster, cheaper, or with a better quality. As a result the country as a whole benefits from the service that the enterpreneurs come up with. (For example: google provides immense benefits to everyone, same goes for twitter,  Skype, etc).

    Without this incentive, people won't come up with ideas to improve the society and things will stay where they are, or go downhill.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #12 - April 07, 2010, 03:48 AM
    Quote from: Tommy on April 07, 2010, 03:39 AM
    LoL then why did you pick Socialist?


    I was in the middle, I agree with both to an extent. Since there was no middle option, I picked it for the hell of it
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #13 - April 07, 2010, 03:49 AM
    *Pats CC on the ass*

    Smiley
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #14 - April 07, 2010, 03:54 AM
    Quote from: Tommy on April 07, 2010, 03:16 AM
    This poll is really to determine how many ultra socialists/MM types are here in this forum.


    So you're basically trying to root out commies?

    Most of us live in socialist countries. God bless Canada.
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #15 - April 07, 2010, 03:57 AM
    Err....kinda but not really. Just want to turn this into a good discussion. And Canada is more socialist that America (where America needs to be frankly) but by no means is it considered a commie country.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #16 - April 07, 2010, 03:59 AM
    Last year they took off 30%+ in taxes from my income. This better be a fucking socialist country!
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #17 - April 07, 2010, 04:01 AM
    *Pats Iblis on the ass*

    Smiley
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #18 - April 07, 2010, 01:29 PM
    the answers are loaded from the start there are so many shades of grey between those two positions. Personally I think something based on the Keynesian model would be the fairest especially at a global level.
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  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #19 - April 08, 2010, 02:01 AM
    The Scandinavian Model is the best. They have very advanced economies with positive account balances whilst providing a comprehensive social safety net.
    But being a hypocrite and sell out who can't wait to get a beemer, I have to admit I'm not sure I would wanna live under such a big tax burden.

    I guess my ideal country is one that has the European level of services and the American level of taxation !! ATM, Canada is the closest you can get to that.


    Quote from: Tommy
    A 'survival of the fittest' type of economy there everyone has an equal opportunity to become financially wealthy

    I'm afraid that's not true Tommy. Capitalism doesn't guarantee equality of opportunity. The only that can be achieved is by socialism or at least by enforcing a 100% inheritance tax.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #20 - April 08, 2010, 12:14 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on April 08, 2010, 02:01 AM
    The Scandinavian Model is the best. They have very advanced economies with positive account balances whilst providing a comprehensive social safety net.

    Watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENDE8ve35f0&feature=player_embedded
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #21 - April 08, 2010, 12:51 PM
    Good video.

    Sweden has withstood the recent economic crisis better than most countries. They still have a positive account balance and they have a real safety net.

     
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #22 - April 08, 2010, 12:59 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on April 08, 2010, 12:51 PM
    They still have a positive account balance and they have a real safety net.

    Precisely because they have changed their attitude somewhat.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #23 - April 08, 2010, 01:35 PM
    Exactly.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #24 - April 08, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on April 08, 2010, 12:51 PM
    Good video.

    Sweden has withstood the recent economic crisis better than most countries. They still have a positive account balance and they have a real safety net.


    Nothing to do with the economic model but a quick response to the crisis by cutting out the bad debt from the banks before it spread, and then created a 'bad debt bank' backed by the government; they moved quickly and it stopped the problem from spreading to the whole of the economy - nothing to do with left versus right, just a quick response to a crisis where as the yanks sat around with their collective finger up their ass.
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #25 - April 08, 2010, 01:48 PM
    This is not my area. But I like the Nordic (Sweden, etc) model of social democracy where the economy is sort of free and people can make their own wealth, but at the same time, high taxes are implemented to provide universal services - healthcare, education, etc. I'm not sure if this is exactly right, please correct me if not, but this is just what I gathered from my very limited knowledge on this sort of thing.

  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #26 - April 08, 2010, 01:50 PM
    Quote from: kaiwai on April 08, 2010, 01:43 PM
    nothing to do with left versus right

    Never said it was.
  • Re: What kind of anEconomy System do you prefer?
     Reply #27 - April 08, 2010, 02:11 PM
    zeitgeist movement..
    the venus project.. Afro
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
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