A misogynist is one who hates women--period. A man can have a dislike for some women, be it for whatever reason, but *hate* is something deeper. So my analogy remains. I do not, and have no reason to hate women, despite how much you and Allat (Allat especially) want to pin that on the wall.
Okay, then stop calling all women bitches and ho's and acting like you were created to lord over them. That kind of Muslimness is something I'd have thought you'd have left behind when you left Islam.
Not a misogynist anymore? I was never a misogynist to begin with, nor am I one all of a sudden.
Your posts about hiring ho's for a video, your consistently calling of women "bitches" like in the athletic women thread, your comments about all women being smelly in the shoutbox, were all misogynistic. If you still can't see that, you're acting denser than you are in other aspects. Just admit that you were wrong, and stop doing that, and I will stop arguing with you here.
Funny, because it's your attitude that I have a problem with Allat--not you personally. I actually like you.
Why thank you.
But your attempt to pull out the Misogynist card so easily is very childish--much like how anyone who pulls out the race card at every turn is childish.
Tommy I am an exmuslim woman who has seen lots of sexism towards me and other women. When I see a guy like you posting the stuff I mentioned above, it reeks of misogyny to me. That's because you are doing what misogynist muslims and other sexists do - trying to humiliate, demean, dehumanize women. You need to be more mature than that - you're pretty mature in other ways, even though I know you are still pretty young. I just wish you'd understand that this is misogynistic stuff and it's not funny to women who have suffered the effects of misogyny for much of our lives. C'mon, you're smarter than this.
And yes, one can argue that me pulling out the Feminazi card is childish on the same level, which I can agree with, but I'm only pointing out the fact that you're very militant about something which isn't true. You're trying your hardest to play the victim. And frankly, I think your attempt to just that, is a direct insult to women who are *real* victims of misogyny.
I am one of those women. So are many other women here. Do you not know about the domestic abuse that another Admin here has been through? You don't even know which kinds of sexual abuse I have been through. You don't think seeing some of the Ex Muslim men, supposedly liberated from that patriarchal religion doing the same thing now here by dehumanizing women as though it was just joke, can be really disheartening, painful, offensive?? We women left Islam in large part because it dehumanizes us, it makes us seem like object to be owned and used and discarded by men. Why would you want to be associated with that? I don't know what your experiences with women have been, but I'd ask that you try and look at each woman as someone on her own, not necessarily representative of the women who you may be pissed off in your real life. That may cut down on your tendency to call women the names you've called us in the past.
I do however admit that my posts in the past have gone over board. I realized this when I left for about 4-5 months. As I've said, I've gotten used to the people here and didn't think of the fact that this is still a forum, and other important factors of interaction that distinguishes seriousness from a joke can be mistaken.I acknowledge that, and I admit that it was my mistake. But by no means am I gonna say that I'm a misogynist as you're drumming up; because it's not true. Never has been.
Well, I'll give you that you yourself in your entirety are perhaps NOT a misogynist. That's because I know that I don't know everything about you, I don't know you in real life. I apologize for calling you that. I do maintain that *your attitude* has been that which is the one sported by actual, real life, misogynists. So please in the future, consider other people's, including women's thoughts, feelings, as well. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I would hope you can do the same to women.
Topic: Women