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Reply #390 - November 04, 2010, 05:48 AM

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lol I don't care what people call themselves.

I didn't ask whether you "cared". I asked you if you accepted a Koranically unsupportable self-definition of "Muslim" as having equal validity as a Koranically unsupportable one. For instance, take a hypothetical self-defined "Muslim" who eats pig meat and claims that it is perfectly in keeping with the Koran to do so because when the verse prohibiting pig meat eating was revealed pigs were ridden with tape worm and as this is no longer the case the prohibition on eating pork is no longer applicable.

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If someone wants to say that their Islam gives equal rights and then claims that giving women less than a full person's right to witness is equal rights I will call bullshit,

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but I won't call bullshit if they say that that passage no longer applies for whatever reason and God now wants to give women complete equal rights and he still wants to say he is a "Muslim"

Why not?

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I came from a Christian religious sect that is deemed to be apostate from a large majority of Christians and yet I still considered myself a Christian. Should non - Christians have come up to me and try and correct me?

If your sect was, for instance, advocating spreading your doctrines by military force and resorting to Jesus' statement that he "did not come to bring peace on earth but the sword" then it would have been a worthwhile venture to use the Christian gospels to try and convince you that this was an erroneous interpretation. If your beliefs were simply biblically unsupportable but innocuous I can think of no particular reason to challenge them unless you were spouting them on the street.

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Reply #391 - November 04, 2010, 03:02 PM

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That is because actively "sucking dick" is not an indispensible component of being gay. Saying "I reject sharia" or "eating Pork is perfectly Islamic", however, disqualifies someone from being accepted as a "Muslim" according to the Koran".

LOL, At the above statment.

You are so Ignorant about Islam you can't even see it, If I eat pork I am not a Musilm?
If i reject sahria I am not a Muslim ?

LOL , your rationality fails, Do you know anything about the 5 pillars of Islam ?
So a Christian not following the 10 commandments is no longer a Christian?
Do you even know whats the difference between a Muslim and a Mo2men (a Believer)?
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Reply #392 - November 04, 2010, 03:38 PM

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LOL, At the above statment.

You are so Ignorant about Islam you can't even see it, If I eat pork I am not a Musilm?
If i reject sahria I am not a Muslim ?

Woah there Mr Ed. I agree with everything you say. If someone calling themselves a "Muslim" came up to me and said "The ban on pork eating is no longer applicable" or "Sharia is no longer applicable to Muslims" I'd say they were either lying or seriously deluding themselves. The trouble is there are many here who would have it that "Islam" is what anybody who calls themselves a "Muslim" wants it to be. I am glad you disagree with this nonsense which serves only to confuse the wider non-Muslim society as to the nature of what we are dealing with.

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LOL , your rationality fails, Do you know anything about the 5 pillars of Islam ?

Yes but you are free to reiterate them for those who do not.

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So a Christian not following the 10 commandments is no longer a "Christian"?

Is following the ten commandments biblically stated as a qualification for being a Christian?

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Do you even know whats the difference between a Muslim and a Mo2men (a Believer)?

Yes a "Muslim" is someone who displays at least the outward signs to "submission" to the will of Allah like abstaining from pork. A "believer" is someone who, in addition to this, actually BELIEVES that a seventh century Arab child molester was a "divine messenger" and the Koran a "divine" book handed down through him from on high. A person who follows the outward rituals of Islam but harbors inward kufr is categorized as a "hypocrite" by the Koran.

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Reply #393 - November 04, 2010, 03:53 PM

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Is following the ten commandments biblically stated as a qualification for being a Christian?

So Is following sharia a Koranic mandate for being Muslim?

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"Islam" is what anybody who calls themselves a "Muslim" wants it to be.

Whats wrong with that?

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Reply #394 - November 04, 2010, 03:57 PM

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So Is following sharia a Koranic mandate for being Muslim?

Definitely yes. Now answer my question.

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Reply #395 - November 04, 2010, 03:58 PM

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Whats wrong with that?

(see above)

It's not true.

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Reply #396 - November 04, 2010, 04:01 PM

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However, being a "Muslim" still entails the OUTWARD acceptance/adherence of Islamic beliefs and practices and someone who openly denies the ongoing applicability of sharia and jihad has placed themselves firmly in the Kuffar camp according to the Koran

Pls remember you said that ^, are you a schizophrenic or something?

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Reply #397 - November 04, 2010, 04:01 PM

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Definitely yes. Now answer my question.

No, it doesn't.

And what Question?
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Reply #398 - November 04, 2010, 04:03 PM

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(see above)

It's not true.

Whats not true?

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Reply #399 - November 04, 2010, 05:55 PM

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Yes a "Muslim" is someone who displays at least the outward signs to "submission" to the will of Allah like abstaining from pork. A "believer" is someone who, in addition to this, actually BELIEVES that a seventh century Arab child molester was a "divine messenger" and the Koran a "divine" book handed down through him from on high. A person who follows the outward rituals of Islam but harbors inward kufr is categorized as a "hypocrite" by the Koran.

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Reply #400 - November 04, 2010, 05:56 PM

Let's all put DH on ignore

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Reply #401 - November 04, 2010, 06:01 PM

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Let's all put DH on ignore

Mass-ignore of the troll.

Done!!

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Reply #402 - November 05, 2010, 06:03 AM

Quote from: tabun on November 04, 2010, 04:01 PM
No, it doesn't.

Yes it does. Islam simply means "submitting" to the will of Allah as laid out in the Koran. If one openly flouts the will of Allah by, for instance, denying the applicability of his surahs then one is failing to "submit" and one is therefore not a "submitter". What do you think "submission" to the will of Allah entails?

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And what Question?

is following the ten commandments biblically stated as a qualification for being a Christian?

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Reply #403 - November 05, 2010, 06:05 AM

Quote from: tabun on November 04, 2010, 04:01 PM
Pls remember you said that ^, are you a schizophrenic or something?

Sorry, have I somehow contradicted myself in this statement. If so, how?

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Reply #404 - November 05, 2010, 06:13 AM

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Whats not true?

That "Islam" is what anybody who calls themselves a "Muslim" wants it to be.

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Reply #405 - November 05, 2010, 08:35 PM

Quote from: DH on November 05, 2010, 06:05 AM
Sorry, have I somehow contradicted myself in this statement. If so, how?

Ammm my bad

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That "Islam" is what anybody who calls themselves a "Muslim" wants it to be.

Ammm Yes, it is.

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Reply #406 - November 05, 2010, 08:44 PM

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That "Islam" is what anybody who calls themselves a "Muslim" wants it to be.

I'm telling you guys. Dh is the best Salafi yet to be converted.

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Reply #407 - November 06, 2010, 12:59 PM

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is following the ten commandments biblically stated as a qualification for being a Christian?

In theory, yes. In practice, however, not so much. Same with most religions and the religious. But you'd know that if you ever stepped outside of your Ivory Tower.

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Reply #408 - November 06, 2010, 01:07 PM

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Pretty much yes. And the fact that the native Americans are not a "single race" no more makes the recent incomers from EurAfricAsia "native Americans" than the diversity of the indigenous people of the British Isles/Europe makes recent incomers from India or Africa "native" Britons/Europeans.

And what about the rest of the post?

Actually, don't bother. You just never seem get what anyone is saying to you. I dunno if its intentional or if you really are just a social retard, but meh... I can't even be bothered to finish this reply to you.

Yawn.

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Reply #409 - November 06, 2010, 02:40 PM

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is following the ten commandments biblically stated as a qualification for being a Christian?

How about belief in the book that produced these verses?

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You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently... than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13

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Reply #410 - November 07, 2010, 05:46 AM

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How about belief in the book that produced these verses?

God is a goddam serial killer.

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Reply #411 - November 07, 2010, 11:17 AM

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God is a goddam serial killer.

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