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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #810 - June 22, 2010, 08:16 PM
    DigDug prove it. For me. And for others who read it.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #811 - June 22, 2010, 08:17 PM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
    yes. would you like me to prove it?


    You may try.  Go.

    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
    No rasheed. You are more than confused. they were sitting in their homes when the Muslims invaded their city/village.


    You are deliberately trying to confuse me.  First you say they were on the battlefield, now you are saying they were "sitting in their homes."

    Which the heck was it, crazy?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #812 - June 22, 2010, 08:18 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:16 PM
    DigDug prove it. For me. And for others who read it.


    Your real name is "Zimmerman???" 
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #813 - June 22, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Quote from: Boo on June 22, 2010, 08:16 PM
    Has the existence of God been proved scientifically? (Yes/No)? If No, then case closed. If yes, then please provide the proof, or give reference to a "scientific" journal, book where a decisive proof has been provided for God, as understood in religion.

    +1
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #814 - June 22, 2010, 08:20 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:11 PM
    Who tried to describe God, Skwigelf?

    My opinion is "it's a tie."  I honestly don't have an opinion as to which one is actually worse.  They are both losing the Game based on the rules.

    man i'am talking about god being described in the qu'ran!!!!!
    So you don't have any opinions, when there is a question where you cannot rely on any of god's opinion you just give up, it is sad Cry that means you don't have faith in yourself at all, so how can you have faith in a god that you have choosed to worship? did you have choosed to worship him by yourself or someone forced you to worship him??
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "
    "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. "
    --Buddha
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #815 - June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:18 PM
    Your real name is "Zimmerman???"  (Clicky for piccy!)


    Yes? I used to be a Orthodox Jew head-banging at the wailing wall. But then I became a muslim after a rock knocked some sense into me.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #816 - June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 07:11 PM
    It's rare when I run into someone who fails to grasp/recognize star wars quotes.  What are you?  A djinn?

    You're a djinn, aren't you?

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    GET BEHIND ME, SATAN!!!

    *hides*

    And it's rare when I meet someone who doesn't recognise a quote from ' The Life of Brian'.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #817 - June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:16 PM
    DigDug prove it. For me. And for others who read it.


    Ok give me some time to collect all the evidence...feel free to help out.
    I'm an asshat.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #818 - June 22, 2010, 08:22 PM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
    You really know nothing at all about Islam but yet you see yourself fit to convince others to follow it. This is the height of arrogance.

    That is the big problem with that religion!!!!
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "
    "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. "
    --Buddha
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #819 - June 22, 2010, 08:22 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Yes? I used to be a Orthodox Jew head-banging at the wailing wall. But then I became a muslim after a rock knocked some sense into me.

    Well that wasn't much of a stoning was it. I should ask for your money back.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #820 - June 22, 2010, 08:24 PM
    @ DD

    The man already told you he doesn't necessarily believe in every Hadith/ Islamic history. Besides these are contradictory anyway.

    Do you believe in the Pact of Umar? Do you believe in Abu Bakr's speech when he moved to conquer Syria? I told you this before, there are many contradicting accounts. You believe Account A is true, MRasheed believes Account B is true. End of story.
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #821 - June 22, 2010, 08:24 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:04 PM
    Dr. Strassman's study revealed that the DMT 'trip' is actually our brains tuning in to a different frequency enabling us to experience different realities or universes, all with different rules and entities.  Our bodies make DMT naturally and it is in certain circumstances that the levels get high enough to cause the 'trip.'  There are 2% of the human population that have the ability to trip without the aid of outside stimuli (the prophets were clearly in this category) such as ritual movement, meditation, and natural so-called "hallucinogenic" substances.

    The field is still brand new, but the door has been opened.  The path to other realms is now ready to be mapped by science.  Allah is the Lord of all the worlds.  We thought He was only talking about our universe's planets, right?


    This is an interpretation of the results - there's nothing to suggest this is the correct interpretation becuase there are other viable intepretations aswell. Positing an ontological "spiritual" world is only an assumption at this stage.
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #822 - June 22, 2010, 08:25 PM
    Quote from: kero-zen on June 22, 2010, 08:20 PM
    man i'am talking about god being described in the qu'ran!!!!!


    "The Most Mericiful."  "The Most Compassionate."

    Like that?  Those kind of descriptions?  You are just as crazy as BedBug or whatever.

    Quote from: kero-zen on June 22, 2010, 08:20 PM
    So you don't have any opinions, when there is a question where you cannot rely on any of god's opinion you just give up, it is sad Cry that means you don't have faith in yourself at all, so how can you have faith in a god that you have choosed to worship? did you have choosed to worship him by yourself or someone forced you to worship him??


    Hey, I have no way of knowing anything about the Unseen unless God tells me about it.  So I have no opinion about those things.  If that bothers you, then "oh well."
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #823 - June 22, 2010, 08:25 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on June 22, 2010, 08:22 PM
    Well that wasn't much of a stoning was it. I should ask for your money back.


    It was a big rock though.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #824 - June 22, 2010, 08:26 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:17 PM
    You are deliberately trying to confuse me.  First you say they were on the battlefield, now you are saying they were "sitting in their homes."

    they were on their homes before mo and his friends arrive and attack them, after that, they were on the battlefield defending their lives
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "
    "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. "
    --Buddha
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #825 - June 22, 2010, 08:27 PM
    Quote from: z10 on June 22, 2010, 08:24 PM
    This is an interpretation of the results - there's nothing to suggest this is the correct interpretation becuase there are other viable intepretations aswell. Positing an ontological "spiritual" world is only an assumption at this stage.


    It's still fascinating with the facts seeming to lean in that direction.  How do you interpret them?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #826 - June 22, 2010, 08:27 PM
    I will need some time to compile everything but here is a quick hadith that not only proves the point about slaves but also about muhammad not being black...

    Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army.") We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the Booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her." Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ."
    I'm an asshat.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #827 - June 22, 2010, 08:28 PM
    Quote from: debunker on June 22, 2010, 08:24 PM
    @ DD

    The man already told you he doesn't necessarily believe in every Hadith/ Islamic history. Besides these are contradictory anyway.

    Do you believe in the Pact of Umar? Do you believe in Abu Bakr's speech when he moved to conquer Syria? I told you this before, there are many contradicting accounts. You believe Account A is true, MRasheed believes Account B is true. End of story.


    Sure but then explain all the slavery that took place in Islam's history. Even with contradictory accounts, why was there slavery? Shouldn't they have been graded as very weak hadiths? Shouldn't Abu Bakr and Umar made it clear for the rest that follow.

    And please don't cop it out with "evil Muslims". Because issue at hand is not Muslims per say, but specifically Islam. How come the Orthodox version of Islam has allowed for so much slavery in it's past? And even today in certain parts of the world?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #828 - June 22, 2010, 08:29 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Yes? I used to be a Orthodox Jew head-banging at the wailing wall. But then I became a muslim after a rock knocked some sense into me.


    "Mohammed said in his Hadith: 'The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!

    (http://noah.simonstudio.com/2010/01/infidel-bloggers-alliance-grand-mufti.html)



    Only the  Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

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  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #829 - June 22, 2010, 08:30 PM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:27 PM
    I will need some time to compile everything but here is a quick hadith that not only proves the point about slaves but also about muhammad not being black...

    Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army.") We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the Booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her." Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ."


    Safiya was married no? Her husband was killed? Shouldn't there be a mourning process for her? Shouldn't there be a waiting process?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #830 - June 22, 2010, 08:31 PM
    by the way DD, did you check that verse?
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #831 - June 22, 2010, 08:31 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 06:22 PM
    It depends on the context and exactly what is being referred to that requires either one.  If we are talking about anything in the Unseen, then yes.  I will definitely lean towards faith.  By neccessity.

    @MRasheed:
    There are millions of possible unseen beliefs.  Why do you just accept the Islamic ones and reject all others?  If you cannot prove it, and you admit that you are just having "faith", then you have nothing to distinguish between Islamic beliefs and the millions of other beliefs.
    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #832 - June 22, 2010, 08:32 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on June 22, 2010, 08:29 PM
    "Mohammed said in his Hadith: 'The Hour [Day of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews, [until a Jew will hide behind a rock or tree] and the rock and the tree will say: Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!

    (http://noah.simonstudio.com/2010/01/infidel-bloggers-alliance-grand-mufti.html)

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Only the  Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."




    ahahahh omg i nearly died
    I'm an asshat.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #833 - June 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:30 PM
    Safiya was married no? Her husband was killed? Shouldn't there be a mourning process for her? Shouldn't there be a waiting process?


    And one of the funny things about the story is that they had to set camp at Khaibar.. as if Khaibar was China, rather than being Medina's backyard.
    A googolplex is *precisely* as far from infinity as is the number 1.--Carl Sagan
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #834 - June 22, 2010, 08:34 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:25 PM
    "The Most Mericiful."  "The Most Compassionate."

    Like that?  Those kind of descriptions?  You are just as crazy as BedBug or whatever.

    Hey, I have no way of knowing anything about the Unseen unless God tells me about it.  So I have no opinion about those things.  If that bothers you, then "oh well."

    ok so here is another question 4 you, hope it will be easier!!!
    if you have the occasion to help someone who is in need, but are not going to get any hathana for helping him you:
    1) help him anyway
    2 )don't help him
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "
    "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. "
    --Buddha
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #835 - June 22, 2010, 08:34 PM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:32 PM
    ahahahh omg i nearly died


     dance

  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #836 - June 22, 2010, 08:35 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on June 22, 2010, 08:21 PM
    And it's rare when I meet someone who doesn't recognise a quote from ' The Life of Brian'.


    The wha--?   Huh?
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #837 - June 22, 2010, 08:35 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 22, 2010, 08:30 PM
    Safiya was married no? Her husband was killed? Shouldn't there be a mourning process for her? Shouldn't there be a waiting process?


    Nah I don't think there should be a mourning process. I know I can speak for all women on the planet in saying that watching a man kill your husband/family is a huge turn on. She prolly couldn't wait to jump his bones.
    I'm an asshat.
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #838 - June 22, 2010, 08:36 PM
    Quote from: MRasheed on June 22, 2010, 08:27 PM
    It's still fascinating with the facts seeming to lean in that direction.  How do you interpret them?

    It is the 3'rd dimension or maybe the world of Narnia!!
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "
    "We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. "
    --Buddha
  • Re: Peace, All
     Reply #839 - June 22, 2010, 08:36 PM
    Quote from: DigDug on June 22, 2010, 08:35 PM
    Nah I don't think there should be a mourning process. I know I can speak for all women on the planet in saying that watching a man kill your husband/family is a huge turn on. She prolly couldn't wait to jump his bones.


     Cheesy Cheesy
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