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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #240 - October 07, 2010, 01:17 PM
    Quote from: Zebedee on October 07, 2010, 01:12 PM
    Did you threaten to over-rule him?

     Cheesy
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #241 - October 07, 2010, 01:21 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on October 07, 2010, 01:16 PM
    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its probably a duck.


    Very true. But I don't see what that has to do with anything. I was hoping you were going to come up with one of your clever retorts as a tonic after BlackDog's above baleful effort at being funny.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #242 - October 07, 2010, 01:25 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 07, 2010, 01:16 PM
    More sophistry filled cretinous rhetorical questions  Grin

    More sophistry filled cretinous rhetorical questions as your default mode of response - you're more predictable than the sun rising in the east  Afro


    Well you DID posit that my emboldened use of the term "native" was becaue Ishina is "not white".

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    Now, DH, please answer the question that Ishina asked you. Thanks.


    Are you absolutely sure you wouldn't prefer to return this thread to its original topic of Scientology rather than continuing to troll on about this?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #243 - October 07, 2010, 01:29 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 01:21 PM
    Very true. But I don't see what that has to do with anything. I was hoping you were going to come up with one of your clever retorts as a tonic after BlackDog's abovebaleful effort at being funny above.

    It didn't go down easy did it?





























    Is that why your sister hasn't returned my calls? I'm off that asparagus diet now. It will change things!
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #244 - October 07, 2010, 01:32 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 01:25 PM
    Are you absolutely sure you wouldn't prefer to return this thread to its original topic of Scientology rather than continuing to troll on about this?


    More sophistry filled cretinous rhetorical questions as your default mode of response  Afro

    (This is so pervasive I only need to cut and paste my own replies to you.....wtf)

    Now DH,  please answer the question that Ishina asked you. Thanks.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #245 - October 07, 2010, 01:33 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 05, 2010, 02:45 PM
    ... it does you people no favors to be seen treating  the UTTERLY LEGITIMATE concerns of NATIVE western NON-MUSLIMS like myself with kneejerk abuse, vilification and sarcasm. WE, as targets of your murderous fanatical former brethren, have a legitimate interest in this matter.


    What are you implying here? Why 'native' in bold? Who is the 'native' 'we' and what seperates me from that group of people?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #246 - October 07, 2010, 01:38 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 01:01 PM
    I asked a question IN MY INITIAL POST AT THIS THREAD. The responses did not really constitute ANSWERS now did they?


    I asked you a question, and you threw a question right back at me!  btw you didnt address that question to anyone in particular, it was a general question.  Whereas at least 3 people here have asked you a question, who have had the decency to answer anything you put to them.

    So I ask again, do you think thats fair?  Or, as its becoming clear, its part of your duplicitous behaviour.  Same goes for your stance on immigration & religion.

    ETA: Please answer Ishina's question
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #247 - October 07, 2010, 02:19 PM
    Quote from: Ishina
    Quote from: DH on October 05, 2010, 09:45 AM... it does you people no favors to be seen treating  the UTTERLY LEGITIMATE concerns of NATIVE western NON-MUSLIMS like myself with kneejerk abuse, vilification and sarcasm. WE, as targets of your murderous fanatical former brethren, have a legitimate interest in this matter.



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    What are you implying here? Why 'native' in bold? Who is the 'native' 'we' and what seperates me from that group of people?


    It says what it says: "Native" means "idigenous population" in the sense that it is used in "Native American" ("Indians) , "Native Australian" (Aborigines) , "Native polynesian", "Native Indian", "Native African". That there is a native European population is a fact. Emphasising a fact does not equal racism. An atmosphere of welcoming inclusiveness is hardly cultivated at this site and I am often asked the question what are YOU doing here at this SITE FOR EX-MUSLIMS? Why are YOU asking this question of US? So I answer in the capacity of "otherness" imposed on me here that it is NOT just YOU  who have a valid interest in this issue and the people whose ancestors created the society that made it possible for YOU to leave Islam in relative safety are not to be glibly dismissed as racists or irrational xenophobes if they express unease at the growth of Islam in their midst and don't welcome the prospect of a mosque in their neighborhood or ongoing Muslim immigration. There is more at stake here than whether you can now stuff your face with bacon baps.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #248 - October 07, 2010, 02:20 PM
    Now answer ME a question, Billy, would you describe BlackDog's above posts directed at me as "cretinous"?
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #249 - October 07, 2010, 02:34 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 02:19 PM
    It says what it says: "Native" means "idigenous population" in the sense that it is used in "Native American" ("Indians) , "Native Australian" (Aborigines) , "Native polynesian", "Native Indian", "Native African". That there is a native European population is a fact. Emphasising a fact does not equal racism.


    Ahh, I see what you mean now. My mistake. So do you think a brown skinned person (or maybe 'mixed race' might be a better way of putting it) will ever be considered 'native' British? Can you imagine that in the forseeable future, or do you think this situation with Islam needs to be resolved before we can ever consider that a possibility?

    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 02:19 PM
    the people whose ancestors created the society that made it possible for YOU to leave Islam in relative safety


    I never really thought about it like that. It doesn't seem that I have paid you due respect, since it is you and your ancestors who should be thanked for my safety and freedom here in Britain. I suppose I have taken your role in my life for granted. I should be thankful to you and your bloodline for the position I am in.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #250 - October 07, 2010, 02:44 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 02:20 PM
    Now answer ME a question, Billy, would you describe BlackDog's above posts directed at me as "cretinous"?


    Would you describe your own posts as cretinous?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #251 - October 07, 2010, 02:47 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on October 07, 2010, 02:34 PM
    Ahh, I see what you mean now. My mistake. So do you think a brown skinned person (or maybe 'mixed race' might be a better way of putting it) will ever be considered 'native' British? Can you imagine that in the forseeable future, or do you think this situation with Islam needs to be resolved before we can ever consider that a possibility?


    Good question, Ishina!

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #252 - October 07, 2010, 02:54 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 11:42 AM
    See my very first post at this forum.


    Erm, in that case you've been wasting your time for the last year at least. There can be such a thing as an 'Islamically valid NON-political Islam'. At least one Muslim on here is proof of that. I take it you will now kindly accept your mistake and take a hike. ^_^
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #253 - October 07, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 11:25 AM
    You don't think that could be more aptly said of some others here who have reacted to my glib responses to their own lame attempts at sarcasm in a rather less than jocular manner?

    The diligent reader who consults my last post will observe that I don't care for the way you've been gangraped. It is unmanly, ungodly, unlike the rugged frontiersmen of my native country about whom legend has it that the reason they wear flowing robes is 'cause sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away.

     "Ruffians" is the word I think I might have used to describe these gaggle of hoodlums. Go back even further into this pandemonium of a thread, and the reader will observe that I've taken up cudgels on your behalf. I never speak ill of my enemies. 'Tis vulgar. I mount them like a bison and discharge myself manfully.

    Quote from: DH on October 07, 2010, 11:25 AM
    So provide an example of this "bellicose pose in foreign policy"

    This I will not do. Every minute spent hunting for quotes at Spencer's blog is to suffer a perceptible loss in brain cells. As a Great Thinker noted elsewhere on this forum: "To venture there is to have one's brain surgically removed, to fall in with a lot of cachinnating, caterwauling, cat's-paw clawing conservative cranks. "
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #254 - October 07, 2010, 03:06 PM
     Grin
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #255 - October 07, 2010, 03:19 PM
    ^ Whatcha cackling at? Don't laugh at rape victims. It's haram.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #256 - October 07, 2010, 09:49 PM
    Scientology was actually one of the things that made me question being a Muslim. Because for all you know, Xenu might be Allah and the spirits that are in us might be .. spirits. And praying may as well just basically be paying to remove said evil spirits from one's body.
    Scientology, and the giant spaghetti monster.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #257 - October 07, 2010, 10:03 PM
    If eating spaghetti and drinking spirits is science, what good will praying do?   whistling2
    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #258 - October 08, 2010, 05:16 AM
    Quote from: Ishina
    So do you think a brown skinned person (or maybe 'mixed race' might be a better way of putting it) will ever be considered 'native' British?


    Where have I mentioned skin color or even implied it? If you have a parent from among the native population then you are of course a "native person"

    Quote
    Can you imagine that in the forseeable future,

     
    I wouldn't regard New Zealand residents of European origin as being as "native" as the Maoris even though the latter have only been there a few centuries longer, would you? Products of interbreeding between the two groups would naturally qualify as "native" by virtue of their ancestry in the native community.  When we speak of "native Americans" we don't generally mean the population of European origin even though they have had a presence there for 400 years.

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    or do you think this situation with Islam needs to be resolved before we can ever consider that a possibility?


    If you have an immigrant community who hold that the Earth belongs to their god and that they, by divine mandate, are the rightful owners of any land they settle in then the established inhabitants are not really morally obliged to welcome them with open arms are they?

    Quote
    I never really thought about it like that. It doesn't seem that I have paid you due respect, since it is you and your ancestors who should be thanked for my safety and freedom here in Britain. I suppose I have taken your role in my life for granted. I should be thankful to you and your bloodline for the position I am in.


    It wasn't the ancestors of present day Pakistanis, Egyptians or Moroccons or their progeny who have settled in western countries. Those peoples, unlike the Europeans, succumbed to the Arab imperialists, joined their cult of Islam and in subsequent centuries right unto the present eagerly acted as agents for their Arab conquerors in making the lives of their still-non-Muslim compatriots hell. The modern womens suffrage and liberation movements weren't born in Pakistan. That you are able to leave Islam in relative safety and shamelessly shove pig meat down your throat is because you live among an overwhelmingly non-Muslim population. Ex-Muslims of immigrant origin SHOULD be thankful to the people who gave them the space to free themselves from this cult. They certainly shouldn't be mindlessly vilifying as "racist" or "Islamophobic" native people who do not welcome the building of imposing mosques in their neighborhoods, halal food being sneakily fed to their kids in school or the continued large-scale annual influx of people whose world view in inimical to the secular, tolerant society that has made it possible for you to stuff your gob with bacon rolls with reasonable assurance that someone won't sneak up behind you and cut your throat.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #259 - October 08, 2010, 07:33 AM
    What about the descendents of Vikings?
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #260 - October 08, 2010, 08:21 AM
    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 05:16 AM
    Where have I mentioned skin color or even implied it? If you have a parent from among the native population then you are of course a "native person"


    I’m just trying to establish what makes you and people like you more native British than me or people like me. What is the criteria that needs to be met in order to be considered a native such as you? Be specific please.

    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 05:16 AM
    Ex-Muslims of immigrant origin SHOULD be thankful to the people who gave them the space to free themselves from this cult.


    Do you consider yourself one of the people whom I should be thankful to? And for what reasons?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #261 - October 08, 2010, 12:43 PM

    I think he fancies you, Ishina.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #262 - October 08, 2010, 01:13 PM
    nah, she's not aryan enough
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #263 - October 08, 2010, 02:39 PM
    Quote from: IsLame
    nah, she's not aryan enough


    I assume you are using "aryan" in the linguistic sense of "Indo European":
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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #264 - October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    Quote from: Ishina
    I’m just trying to establish what makes you and people like you more native British than me or people like me.


    Who are "people like you" exactly? Relatively recent arrivals from the Indian subcontinent or Somalia? North Africans? Eskimos?

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    What is the criteria that needs to be met in order to be considered a native such as you? Be specific please.


    The same criteria that rules Inhabitants of North America of European, African, Chinese, Arabian, Indian, Mongol origin as being classified as NATIVE Americans: they do not share common ancestry in the continent with the descendants of those human populations who were established there when the Euros first arrived. If a group of Arabs settled in the Polar regions and started living in igloos that would not make them "natives" of the region would it?

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    Do you consider yourself one of the people whom I should be thankful to? And for what reasons?


    I am part of the native population who permitted your forebears to settle in their country and enjoy the freedoms you do. What would your life be like now but for that benevolence? You'd have rather more to worry about than a craving for bacon I'll warrant. Indeed, without the existence of a wider predominantly non-Muslim society around you you'd probably be braindead robot scuttling about in a burqa muttering homilies to Allah every time you walked through a toilet door or came within 100 feet of a dog.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #265 - October 08, 2010, 03:06 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on October 08, 2010, 07:33 AM
    What about the descendents of Vikings?


    In the core Viking lands of Scandinavia and their colony in Iceland they are the native populations. In the British Isles, Russia, France and elsewhere they settled they have long since melted into the native populations and no longer exist as a distinct group.
    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #266 - October 08, 2010, 03:11 PM
    Uh huh, and what constitutes a 'distinct group'? What distinguishes one group from another?
  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #267 - October 08, 2010, 03:17 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    I am part of the native population who permitted your forebears to settle in their country and enjoy the freedoms you do. What would your life be like now but for that benevolence? You'd have rather more to worry about than a craving for bacon I'll warrant. Indeed, without the existence of a wider predominantly non-Muslim society around you you'd probably be braindead robot scuttling about in a burqa muttering homilies to Allah

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  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #268 - October 08, 2010, 03:21 PM
     Grin
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Secrets of Scientology: BBC Panorama series
     Reply #269 - October 08, 2010, 03:25 PM
    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    Who are "people like you" exactly? Relatively recent arrivals from the Indian subcontinent or Somalia? North Africans? Eskimos?


    Thats what I'm trying to find out. Thats what I'm asking you. Look here:

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    ... it does you people no favors to be seen treating  the UTTERLY LEGITIMATE concerns of NATIVE western NON-MUSLIMS like myself with kneejerk abuse, vilification and sarcasm. WE, as targets of your murderous fanatical former brethren, have a legitimate interest in this matter.


    You FIRMLY establish your position as NATIVE, while making an effort to separate me into some significant, yet undisclosed ‘other’ category, so far only known as ‘you people’. These ‘you people’ must be something else other than NATIVE, since you already put them and me apart from NATIVE.

    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    The same criteria that rules Inhabitants of North America of European, African, Chinese, Arabian, Indian, Mongol origin as being classified as NATIVE Americans: they do not share common ancestry in the continent with the descendants of those human populations who were established there when the Euros first arrived.


    What specific criteria defines a Native British? It doesn't seem like a hard question to me, and you seem to be the one able to enlighten me.

    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    I am part of the native population who permitted your forebears to settle in their country and enjoy the freedoms you do. What would your life be like now but for that benevolence? You'd have rather more to worry about than a craving for bacon I'll warrant.


    Yes, but what is that native population? What distinguishing features do you have that I do not have? I am curious what you are claiming credit for here. Don't be modest. Share the talent or attribute you have that I do not or tell us about the contribution you made that factors into it.

    Quote from: DH on October 08, 2010, 02:59 PM
    Indeed, without the existence of a wider predominantly non-Muslim society around you you'd probably be braindead robot scuttling about in a burqa muttering homilies to Allah every time you walked through a toilet door or came within 100 feet of a dog.


    Oh? Why?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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