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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #30 - January 09, 2011, 02:00 AM

    Or perhaps Islame, just maybe, after a lot of thought and consideration he is starting to see issues with multiculturalism, with the lack of desi's integrating in England and the problem with the burqa which he has commented on before. (See "Jack Straw caused controversy in 2006 when he suggested that Muslim women should abandon wearing the burqa because it was a "visible statement of separation and difference".)

    Btw, some people will think you are saying he's racist when you write "protectionism extends to members of his race & retaining 'English culture". This isn't racism, this is pure consequential thinking that developed values are better values just like developed engineering is better than third world engineering. I say developed because these values exist in the East too, like Japan/S. Korea/Singapore. Anyhow, I think he is a man of spine and we need more MPs like him to speak up.


    They are bigoted too.  I'm sorry HO but you cannot be that totally ignorant of history to see where Japan's protectionism comes from.  It comes from a religious supremistist movement that declared that all non Japanese are inferior creatures, echos of that are still around and in Japan's obession for ethnic and cultural purity.   

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #31 - January 09, 2011, 02:01 AM

    The thing is Pakistani is NOT a race. Maybe Jack Straw should have said mirpuris  Cheesy
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #32 - January 09, 2011, 02:05 AM

    Anyhow, I think he is a man of spine and we need more MPs like him to speak up.

    No thanks, by all means have an ideological debate on Islam or cultural factors, but not if he is going round as a senior MP with soundbites like  Pakistanis are rapists.  Imagine how that makes a decent self respecting Pakistani Mullah feel, one who will never sit next to a woman or shake her hand?  And its people like him who will influence the next generation of Jihadis.

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #33 - January 09, 2011, 02:09 AM

    They are bigoted too.  I'm sorry HO but you cannot be that totally ignorant of history to see where Japan's protectionism comes from.  It comes from a religious supremistist movement that declared that all non Japanese are inferior creatures, echos of that are still around and in Japan's obession for ethnic and cultural purity.  


    The Koreas as well.  North Korea's huge internal narrative is that North Korea keeps the Korean ethnically pure.  You can look though North Korea's propaganda and you'll find several statement saying that South Korea has become ethnically corrupt by intermarrying with the other races. An African delegation was almost beaten up by mobs who saw them as inferior beings.  Some of this ethnic superiority still lingers in South Korea where you'll hear disdain for the N Korean regime but a quiet admiration for the narrative for ethnic purity  by many people.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #34 - January 09, 2011, 02:11 AM

    HighOctane I hope you know that you'd be labelled a "paki" by racist bigots thus making you a potential rapist  yes
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #35 - January 09, 2011, 02:14 AM

    Do I really need to go on HO? or have I made my point?

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #36 - January 09, 2011, 02:19 AM

    They are bigoted too.  I'm sorry HO but you cannot be that totally ignorant of history to see where Japan's protectionism comes from.  It comes from a religious supremistist movement that declared that all non Japanese are inferior creatures, echos of that are still around and in Japan's obession for ethnic and cultural purity.  


    Oh and here.  Tell me HO, what other reason would the Japanese have to do this, if not for racism?  

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/world/asia/03japan.html

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    But Ms. Fransiska, 26, is having to fight to stay. To extend her three-year stint at a hospital outside Tokyo, she must pass a standardized nursing exam administered in Japanese, a test so difficult that only 3 of the 600 nurses brought here from Indonesia and the Philippines since 2007 have passed.

    So Ms. Fransiska spends eight hours in Japanese language drills, on top of her day job at the hospital. Her dictionary is dog-eared from countless queries, but she is determined: her starting salary of $2,400 a month was 10 times what she could earn back home. If she fails, she will never be allowed to return to Japan on the same program again.

    “I think I have something to contribute here,” Ms. Fransiska said during a recent visit, spooning mouthfuls of rice and vegetables into the mouth of Heiichi Matsumaru, an 80-year-old patient recovering from a stroke. “If I could, I would stay here long-term, but it is not so easy.”

    Despite facing an imminent labor shortage as its population ages, Japan has done little to open itself up to immigration. In fact, as Ms. Fransiska and many others have discovered, the government is doing the opposite, actively encouraging both foreign workers and foreign graduates of its universities and professional schools to return home while protecting tiny interest groups — in the case of Ms. Fransiska, a local nursing association afraid that an influx of foreign nurses would lower industry salaries.

    In 2009, the number of registered foreigners here fell for the first time since the government started to track annual records almost a half-century ago, shrinking 1.4 percent from a year earlier to 2.19 million people — or just 1.71 percent of Japan’s overall population of 127.5 million.




    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #37 - January 09, 2011, 02:21 AM

    Ok, he sounds like a fearful ignorant person.  I'm sorry Islame but if someone is going to link race as having some kind of intrinsic motivating force behind rape without much backing it up I'm going to have to call it ignorant racism, thats all I can I am forced to do that. 

    He's not ignorant though - if you youtube his talks you will also probably find that he's neither dumb or ignorant.  

    In fact he's one of the more considered & respected elder parliamentarians of the Labour party, one who up until recently steadily rose up Labours ranks.  

    He is a man that know what he's saying, and why he's saying it unfortunately.

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #38 - January 09, 2011, 02:21 AM

    They are bigoted too.  I'm sorry HO but you cannot be that totally ignorant of history to see where Japan's protectionism comes from.  It comes from a religious supremistist movement that declared that all non Japanese are inferior creatures, echos of that are still around and in Japan's obession for ethnic and cultural purity.   

    I am, so what is this movement called as I'd like to learn more..

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #39 - January 09, 2011, 02:24 AM

    I don't think he's wrong in saying this. I think it's all part of the suppression of sexuality within the community. I read a similar article about how some Norweigan girls in suburbs of Oslo with a lot of migrants chose to dye their hair black or dress conservatively so that they didn't receive attention.

  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #40 - January 09, 2011, 02:33 AM

    I am, so what is this movement called as I'd like to learn more..


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_in_Sh%C5%8Dwa_Japan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_fascism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nationalist_thinking_in_the_Meiji_era




    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #41 - January 09, 2011, 02:39 AM

    He's not ignorant though - if you youtube his talks you will also probably find that he's neither dumb or ignorant.  

    In fact he's one of the more considered & respected elder parliamentarians of the Labour party, one who up until recently steadily rose up Labours ranks.  

    He is a man that know what he's saying, and why he's saying it unfortunately.


    What I have been saying is that it is ignorant and racist to say Pakistanis see white women as meat.  It blankets every Pakistani. A more nuanced and probably factually true statement is that the idea of identity superiority or religious superiority is leading men to believe that people, mostly women not of their religion as less than human in terms of sexual equality.  Now that is the PC way of saying Islamic supremism is treating non Muslim women as less than human just as racial  and national supremism did before it.  

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #42 - January 09, 2011, 02:46 AM


    Interesting, I always thought it was a political/social/economic thing rather than having its grounding as a religious one.

    Anyhow it kinda reminds me of Scientology.

    Whats brilliant about it is that it grants the state power by making the emporer divinical, no lesser than an offspring from God clap

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    State religionMain article: State Shinto
    State Shinto was an important part of the militarist ideology. Based on emperor worship, it gave religious justification to totalitarism and promoted nationalism.

    According to this cult, the emperor of Japan was an arahitogami, an incarnate divinity and the offspring of goddess Amaterasu. As the emperor was, according to the constitution, "head of the empire" and "supreme commander of the Army and the Navy", every Japanese citizen had to obey his will and show absolute loyalty.

    State Shintō placed emphasis on the idea that the "center of the Phenomenal World is the Tenno [Emperor]". In the Shōwa era, religious and political doctrines joined to dictate that subjects should spread the hakko ichiu (the eight corners under one roof) and thus extend the great divine spirit around the world. All proclamations of the emperor took on religious significance. Prince Kanin, Heisuke Yanagawa, Kuniaki Koiso and Kiichiro Hiranuma developed a deep link between state and religion, in relation to nationalism.



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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #43 - January 09, 2011, 09:27 AM

    I think there is most definitely a problem not only in the pakistani community but also other desi communities about their views of white women, I have experienced some of this myself but I don't think its a racist problem rather its a society problem where white and/or non muslim women ARE being portrayed as a being 'cheap' by the media (linked to that doc I posted yesterday)

    Unfortunately you are missing the real culprit here - the role of a culture that views non-Muslims as lesser human beings (or even less than humans sometimes) which is fuelled by the religious/tribal bigotry.

    True enough the Muslim grey hairs of the older generation are less given to philandering, but does this puritanism hold for a new generation fed on a steady diet of MTV? To hold Islam soley culpable for rape is folly, but when the victims of molestation are invariably white in a community where most of the young lovelies are Asian does one not suspect the role Islam plays in denigrating the womenfolk of others? A thousand mosques  fulminate against the moral abandon of Western culture. If a woman, not a Muslim, is only one notch above a swine, what remains to check the baser instincts of Ahmed?

    This ain't a Pakistani problem. It's a Muslim one. Na mean dawg?

    Strictly speaking its not even a Muslim one. It is a rather problem that has to do with a certain supremacist interpretation of Islam which unfortunately is the predominant one.

    I have quite a few Pakistani/Afghanistani acquaintances (both British born and first generation immigrant) and a lot of them (I would even dare say most - but this is strictly anecdotal "evidence") hold views in this regard that are completely void of any human decency/compassion.  But this has got nothing to do with the fact that they are Pakistanis/Afghanistanis per se - it is a result of the fact that they adopted values of a culture that fosters such simplistic, supremacist and inhuman views.

    What I have been saying is that it is ignorant and racist to say Pakistanis see white women as meat.  It blankets every Pakistani. A more nuanced and probably factually true statement is that the idea of identity superiority or religious superiority is leading men to believe that people, mostly women not of their religion as less than human in terms of sexual equality.  Now that is the PC way of saying Islamic supremism is treating non Muslim women as less than human just as racial  and national supremism did before it.  

    Exactly. Except that it's not just about sexual equality - it's much more widespread than that.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #44 - January 09, 2011, 12:00 PM

    What I have been saying is that it is ignorant and racist to say Pakistanis see white women as meat.  It blankets every Pakistani. A more nuanced and probably factually true statement is that the idea of identity superiority or religious superiority is leading men to believe that people, mostly women not of their religion as less than human in terms of sexual equality.  Now that is the PC way of saying Islamic supremism is treating non Muslim women as less than human just as racial  and national supremism did before it.  

    I think that at least the core of what Mr. Straw says is correct and he is in the ballpark - but that as you say his exact wording was crude and (it appears) he hasn't quite zoned in on the problem.
    I'd be prepared to cut him some slack -especially if his remark was off the cuff.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #45 - January 09, 2011, 02:11 PM

    Quote from: IsLame
    I am disappointed by Jack Straw - first he refuses to carry out his statutory duties by refusing to speak to any electorate wearing a burkha.  Now he claim Pakistani men are more prone to raping innocent white girls.  All this from a so called left wing labourite.


    The important question is surely whether the allegation is true or not - not whether making it is in keeping with the sort of things a "left winger" should or not say in order to retain their "left wing" credentials.

    Quote
    So when a group of other men try to rape girls, its just seen as rape.  When Pakistanis do it, it turns out that Pakistanis are a bunch of rapists.


    Where did Straw call "Pakistanis" a "bunch of rapists" or imply that they are? 

    Quote
    For all Islams flaws, female subjugation, niqabs & covered meat (as in the famous words of the Aussie Mullah),  i'll say one thing for Pakistani men.  They are less likely to have any form of extra-marital sex, because of the extremely conservative attitudes towards women & sex.


    They may be less likely to have extra-marital CONSENSUAL sex. However, Islam DOES permit extramarital NON-consensual sex.

    Quote
    And for Jack straw to start blaming it on race, before even contemplating related factors such as poverty, education, ostracisation, or repression though religion is beyond belief.


    The trouble is too many commentators would rather identify culprits with the ethnic tag "Asian" than Muslim and thereby implicate non-Muslim Asian communities in such offences. To do otherwise would commit the supreme "sin" of fuelling "Islamophobia". "Pakistani" can of course be reasonably be used interchangably with "Muslim" since Pakistan was consciously founded as a country FOR MUSLIMS.

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #46 - January 09, 2011, 02:29 PM

    Quote from: "Kenan"
    Unfortunately you are missing the real culprit here - the role of a culture that views non-Muslims as lesser human beings


    And this "culture" is rooted in the basic texts of Islam. You see "Cultural Islam" does not, as some here would have it, mean "non-bigoted", "non-kuffar-despising", "non-sharia-desiring", "non-misogynistic" Islam. It just means an Islamic mindset and Islamic behavioral propensities being passed down the generations culturally without necessarily being based on a first hand acquaintance with the Koran as far as individual Muslims are concerned. Thus an illiterate Muslim who has never read the Koran is as much practicing "cultural Islam" if he knifes someone who has "offended" his religion as a "moderate" whose Islam only extends as far as celebrating ramadan.

    Quote
    It is a rather problem that has to do with a certain supremacist interpretation of Islam


    If you know of a Koranically supportable NON-supremacist interpretation then you urgently need to share it with the countless number of Muslims who believe Allah wants his deen to dominate the earth.

    Quote
    which unfortunately is the predominant one.


    No comment required on that.

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #47 - January 09, 2011, 02:44 PM

    Jack Straw is a tool. That is all.

    Oh, and WE STEALIN' ALL YOUR WOMENZ BITCCCHHHHHHEESSS!!!

    I'll get my coat.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #48 - January 09, 2011, 02:52 PM

    Quote from: Eliphaz
    Oh, and WE STEALIN' ALL YOUR WOMENZ BITCCCHHHHHHEESSS!!!


    Are you speaking for your "group" or just parodying what you see as Straw's attitude?

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #49 - January 09, 2011, 03:36 PM

    They are bigoted too.  I'm sorry HO but you cannot be that totally ignorant of history to see where Japan's protectionism comes from.  It comes from a religious supremistist movement that declared that all non Japanese are inferior creatures, echos of that are still around and in Japan's obession for ethnic and cultural purity.   


    Wow - that's not what I meant at all - what I mean "developed values" I refer to those such as "women should not be subjected to a culture where they are pressured to wear a burka" OR the value where "women have the same value of a bloke, not half". These are values adopted in developed Eastern nations and this is not bigoted, it is consequentially justified progress. To confuse this with Japan's history (or even today it's glass ceiling at some of it's multinational firms) is not quite relating to the point in question. Indeed, the Japanese are somewhat xenophobic towards their stance on immigrants (hah - and the ageing demographics will force them to change their stance at some point), but this isn't the point, the point is they have adopted developed values. Japan is not a great example for this reason. Take Singapore, a nation of immigrants, and there you see it: a women is VERY SAFE in Singapore without needing to wear a burka. Oh, and the women there are pretty darn successful too compared to Western standards from what I've seen.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #50 - January 09, 2011, 03:59 PM

    No thanks, by all means have an ideological debate on Islam or cultural factors, but not if he is going round as a senior MP with soundbites like  Pakistanis are rapists.  Imagine how that makes a decent self respecting Pakistani Mullah feel, one who will never sit next to a woman or shake her hand?  And its people like him who will influence the next generation of Jihadis.


    Where has he actually said ALL Pakistani's are ALL rapists?

    Quote
    Straw said: "Pakistanis are not the only people who commit sexual offences and overwhelmingly sex offenders' wings are full of white offenders.
    "But there is a specific problem which involves Pakistani heritage men who target vulnerable young white girls



    He merely advocated a SUBSET of Pakistani men. And there is clear social issues as play (i.e. young Pakistani men are forced to be incels before marriage, cannot mix with Pakistani women, view English people outside of their boundary to be respected and all combined we end up with growing cases like this). And to be quite frank, I will be honest that many Bengali second generations are thankful they aren't born in to the far harsher Pakistani culture. Pakistani parents are far more likely to force their kids into marriage than Bengali ones who give more of an introduction. I mean no offence, only a generalisation by pure analysis. As a result, I don't think it is a coincidence that a SUBSET of second generation Pakistani men are more likely to end up in this type of crime than say Indian, Bengali or Arab men. These are necessary facts in order to resolve these issues with the Pakistani community.

    And to argue that Jihadis will be born out of Jack Straw's comments - come on now, are you really saying that Jihadis are going to think, "That Jack Straw, because he insulted Pakistani second generations (because they abused white girls), I'm going to blow up a part of London" - then I think this is incredible because you're saying their a senior politician cannot pass comment son ANY FACTS based on a subset of people because it may lead to a nutjob terrorist.

    We need to get out of this culture that, "You can't do thing in case it upsets a Jihadi". You can't ban the burka because it will upset a jihadi. You can't depict Mohammed because it might upset a Jihadi. You can't ban Sharia Law because it might upset a Jihadi. Look, these Jihadi's don't deserve the right to not be offended. The value system of the UK (implemented by law and order) should come before offending Jihadis. "Oh but what if these Jihadis blow you up in London tomorrow" - well quite frankly there is so much going on enough anyway I don't see how appeasing Jihadis will make any difference. Keep up the intelligence work and foil their plots, while curbing the deterioration of developed values in society I think is the best way forward - if politicians have the spine.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #51 - January 09, 2011, 04:07 PM

    To confuse this with Japan's history


    Confuse it with Japan's history or maintain a grounding in historical context when discussing contemporary issues?

    Anyhow, I find it disturbing that you are avatarless. You think you could add one? Smiley

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #52 - January 09, 2011, 04:15 PM

    Where has he actually said ALL Pakistani's are ALL rapists?

    Nowhere.  But it does send the message out that white people need to watch out for anyone born of Pakistani heritage because he has a greater tendency of being a rapist.  Talk about ways of denigrating & dehumanising a race, this one is top dollar.

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  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #53 - January 09, 2011, 04:22 PM

    Confuse it with Japan's history or maintain a grounding in historical context when discussing contemporary issues?


    Feel free to expand, my knowledge of Japan's history below the shallow surface is very poor. But I am keen to learn. Smiley

    What I'm saying is I don't think it is fair to relate Jack Straw's comments to certain developed certain values then pretend it is bigoted because Japan has issues with bigotry. As I will say again, Japan is a bad example, consider Singapore instead, a nation if immigrants where women are treated under developed world values.

    Anyhow, I find it disturbing that you are avatarless. You think you could add one? Smiley


    ok
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #54 - January 09, 2011, 04:23 PM

    Doesn't have to be your pic, just somethin. I associate the avatarless with DH and LM44-- and that's a bad group to be in, ya know?

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #55 - January 09, 2011, 04:27 PM

    Done, finesse of the tennis master.
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #56 - January 09, 2011, 04:29 PM

    Thanks

    fuck you
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #57 - January 09, 2011, 04:38 PM

    But it does send the message out that white people need to watch out for anyone born of Pakistani heritage because he has a greater tendency of being a rapist.


    Well, if a literate white person with their own free mind reads this:

    Quote
    Straw said: "Pakistanis are not the only people who commit sexual offences and overwhelmingly sex offenders' wings are full of white offenders.
    "But there is a specific problem which involves Pakistani heritage men who target vulnerable young white girls.


    ... and if they still feel all Pakistani men are rapists, then I'm sorry but that's your average ill informed white bigot for you. There will always be a variation in a population of humans in their mental capacity for perception of the world around them and due to this bigots WILL exist in society, always, but thankfully most anglo-saxon whites are not so bigoted. Just because these bigots exist is NO reason why a politician cannot be frank about the facts. He cannot get any clearer than saying "sex offenders' wings are full of white offenders".
  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #58 - January 09, 2011, 05:13 PM

    Well, if a literate white person with their own free mind reads this:

    ... and if they still feel all Pakistani men are rapists, then I'm sorry but that's your average ill informed white bigot for you.

    You have nailed it!

    That is precisely why Jack Straw should have been more careful and should have worded the whole thing differently. I find it hard to believe that he is so naive as not to understand the possible implications of his comments not to mention the fact that what he said is simply factually wrong - its too generalizing and I do understand why people would get offended by such comments.
    Why didn't he say something along the lines of (as deusvult put it): "The idea of identity superiority or religious superiority is leading men to believe that people, mostly women not of their religion as less than human in terms of sexual equality."

    This is the report from the Daily Mail titled "White girls are 'easy meat' for Pakistani men: Jack Straw under fire for making 'offensive' remarks on sex abuse cases": http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345277/Jack-Straw-making-offensive-remarks-sex-abuse-cases.html

    Wanna bet that the only thing that the general public is going to hear is: "White girls are 'easy meat' for brownies"?

  • Re: Jack Straw says some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex
     Reply #59 - January 09, 2011, 06:18 PM

    This issue was discussed on The Big Questions this morning on BBC.  Mehdi Hasan was on the panel.

    You can watch it on BBC iplayer.  I'm about to watch it right now.

    .
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