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 Topic: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws

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  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #30 - January 21, 2011, 04:33 PM

    If that's in reference to the crimes committed by Pakistan in Bangladesh then I agree.


    Its referring to everything else too.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #31 - January 21, 2011, 04:35 PM

    My judgement is based on a long love affair with the pak military although its declined recently but its still there  grin12

     Afro

    From the article Hassan posted:
    "The core problem, Ghamidi said, was the alliance between Pakistan's "establishment" – code for the military – and Islamist extremists it uses to fight in Kashmir and Afghanistan. "They are closely allied," he said."
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #32 - January 21, 2011, 04:36 PM

    My judgement is based on a long love affair with the pak military although its declined recently but its still there


    Why do you love an organisation that has crippled Pakistan, commited a genocide, persecuted millions, supported and sponsored the jehadi organisations that have fucked up Pakistan and mainlined extremism into its bloodstream, prevented democracy from growing organically, and is slowly strangling to death all its resources and capabilities?

    Do you get turned on by throbbing missiles and vertical fighter jets and stuff or something  Huh?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #33 - January 21, 2011, 04:36 PM

    It already is, and has been for a long time. Witness the Mumbai attacks and other assaults on India, Pakistan exporting Jamaat-e-Islami / Tableeegi Jamaati / Maududi Islam, to say nothing of Lashkar-e-Tayibba and safe havens in general for jehadis - virtually every plot has a Pakistan connection, its the epicentre of the phenomenon.


     yes, but I mean in more kenetic war scenario and less a cloak and dagger way.  I can't imagine it being so far off.

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #34 - January 21, 2011, 04:39 PM

    I don't think any of my 'conspiracies' can be as bad as:

     Roll Eyes


    rofl... she has a point Muddy  grin12
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #35 - January 21, 2011, 04:41 PM

    I'm surprised at the level of violence in Pakistan, not the number of fundies there. My family come from 1 of the most conservative regions of Pakistan (Azad Kashmir) yet there is none of this suicide bombings and stuff there, so it does make me wonder............


    Nothing surprises me anymore. I have lived in the UK all my life (though I know Egypt and Morocco well) but I have met enough batshit-crazy hard-line jihadists to know that there are some who are capable of anything.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #36 - January 21, 2011, 04:42 PM

    What else do you mean? I think I remember reading something about Baluchistan being annexed for the creation of Pakistan or summat, that's all I know I think

    basket case

    An infirm or failing person or thing - unable to properly function. Originally this referred to soldiers who had lost arms and legs and had to be carried by others. More recently it has been used to denounce any failing organisation or scheme and is rarely applied to people.


    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/56500.html




    Again, Pakistan isn't basket case. Where was the west during the 90s? When Pakistan HAD to support the taliban out of NECESSITY? Oh yeah they were busy putting sanctions on Pakistan for their nuclear programme--which I'm glad to say failed  grin12  And we all know that once Pakistan isn't needed for NATO transit routes (meaning the idiots will have withdrawn from Afghanistan) the US will leave the region and Pakistan will have to pick up the pieces-again!
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #37 - January 21, 2011, 04:42 PM

    The war has cost Pakistan around $35 billion, I don't know how much has been given in 'aid' to Pakistan but I don't think its that much, the Chinese have also been more helpful financially. so much being a "basket case" of the west. Seeing as both sides don't like each other, how about the 'west' just keeps it beak out of Pakistan? I'd appreciate it that and so would most Pakistanis  Afro


    That's got nothing to do with what I posted.  The west does not want to invade Pakistan, was my point.  It would much rather keep well out of Pakistan, which is a bit difficult to do when there's a risk that a nuclear armed state may fall into the control of Taliban like elements.  Therefore, stirring up Islamic extremism in Pakistan is contrary to the west's agenda.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #38 - January 21, 2011, 04:43 PM

    Tbh I do see why you would have "a love affair" with the Pakistani military. Pak military is just about the only thing in Pakistan that isn't a complete failure and considering that your mindset is essentially tribalistic, Pak army is actually something you could feel proud about.

    Problem is that Pakistani military is one of the main reasons why Pakistan is where it is.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #39 - January 21, 2011, 04:45 PM

    Why do you love an organisation that has crippled Pakistan, commited a genocide, persecuted millions, supported and sponsored the jehadi organisations that have fucked up Pakistan and mainlined extremism into its bloodstream, prevented democracy from growing organically, and is slowly strangling to death all its resources and capabilities?

    Do you get turned on by throbbing missiles and vertical fighter jets and stuff or something  Huh?


    If it wasn't for the army Pakistan would have been a cripple. Supporting the military today doesn't mean I agree with what they did in the 70s. Democracy in Pakistan=spineless corrupt elitists in power. Maybe if someone like Imran Khan came to power I'd change my views. And yes I do get turned on my jet fighters, I almost orgasmed when I saw a JF-17 fly over my head a few months ago   Wink
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #40 - January 21, 2011, 04:45 PM

    Quote
    What else do you mean? I think I remember reading something about Baluchistan being annexed for the creation of Pakistan or summat, that's all I know I think


    Baluchistan is one thing. The persecution of Ahmaddiya began in the 1950's, the shia-sunni violence, the violence in Karachi in the 1980s. How can you be so naive to think that the violence now in Pakistan is ahistorical.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #41 - January 21, 2011, 04:47 PM

    Tbh I do see why you would have "a love affair" with the Pakistani military. Pak military is just about the only thing in Pakistan that isn't a complete failure and considering that your mindset is essentially tribalistic, Pak army is actually something you could feel proud about.

    Problem is that Pakistani military is one of the main reasons why Pakistan is where it is.


     Afro
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #42 - January 21, 2011, 04:48 PM

    Again, Pakistan isn't basket case.

    Pakistan is a failed state - it is unable to even feed its own population: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index
    Pakistan is first and foremost a threat to itself and it is bringing itself down more efficiently than anybody else ever could.

    This is the real issue with Pakistan - not foreign influence.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #43 - January 21, 2011, 04:49 PM

    Again, Pakistan isn't basket case. Where was the west during the 90s? When Pakistan HAD to support the taliban out of NECESSITY?


    Basket case is probably being generous to be honest.

    There was no necessity for Pakistan to support the Taliban - it chose to do it as part of its strategy to control Afghanistan and fight India. Your love for throbbing missiles makes you gullible to hagiography.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #44 - January 21, 2011, 04:53 PM

    If it wasn't for the army Pakistan would have been a cripple. Supporting the military today doesn't mean I agree with what they did in the 70s. Democracy in Pakistan=spineless corrupt elitists in power. Maybe if someone like Imran Khan came to power I'd change my views. And yes I do get turned on my jet fighters, I almost orgasmed when I saw a JF-17 fly over my head a few months ago  


    Cumming must knock out your braincells.

    The army is the reason for the crippling of Pakistan.

    And you can't disassociate the army from what it did in the 1970's -- all it does now is part of the continuum from the 1970's.




    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #45 - January 21, 2011, 04:54 PM

    Afro


    As usually you are again missing the causality here.

    You feel proud of Pakistani military because of tribalistic mindset of yours not inspide of.

    The way I see it this is essentially a matter of pride for you. Acknowledgement of the facts here would imply your humiliation because of the tribalistic allegiance you feel.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #46 - January 21, 2011, 05:05 PM

    Tbh I do see why you would have "a love affair" with the Pakistani military. Pak military is just about the only thing in Pakistan that isn't a complete failure and considering that your mindset is essentially tribalistic, Pak army is actually something you could feel proud about.

    Problem is that Pakistani military is one of the main reasons why Pakistan is where it is.


     Afro

    Although the Pakistani army is mostly a success in persecuting and killing innocents, sucking up the resources of the nation, destroying democracy, its operational effectiveness being mainly in sodomising the nation it represents, including mainlining jehadism into society's bloodstream, and losing the eastern half of Pakistan when it was bisected following its jolly genocide jaunt in Bengal.

    In fact, so parasitical is the Pakistani army, that the Pakistani economy basically exists to service the army, one of the reasons why the nation has not been able to sustain long term economic growth, and why it is always dependent on aid and loans to prop itself up.

    Quote

    Economic Growth, Clad in Military Garb

     By STEPHEN KOTKIN
    Published: November 4, 2007
    PAKISTAN’S recently re-elected leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, has indicated that he might finally heed the calls for him to step down as head of the army. But even if the general becomes a civilian president, that will not take the uniform off Pakistan’s economy.

    A strategic country with nuclear weapons and suicide bombers, Pakistan also merits attention for economic lessons. From 1950 to 2000, its per capita income tripled, making it something of a middle-income country. But social indicators like infant mortality and literacy remain at the world’s lower end. A few hundred intertwined families, many rooted in the military, maintain an anti-development chokehold on the country’s wealth and political system.

    “Why some militaries become key players in a country’s power politics is an issue that has puzzled many,” writes the Pakistani analyst Ayesha Siddiqa in “Military Inc.” (Pluto, $35). Her answer is that the brass is protecting its gold.

    A military industrial complex can form a part of a regular economy, as in the United States or Britain, she says, but in some places, like Indonesia or Pakistan, military business operates in the shadows, broadly distorting values. Ms. Siddiqa uses the term “Milbus” to refer to “military capital that is used for the personal benefit of the military fraternity, especially the officer cadre, but is neither recorded nor part of the defense budget.”

    Her book, while dense and full of jargon, offers a detailed and powerful case study of a global phenomenon: hollow economic growth.

    Ms. Siddiqa’s empirical riches on Milbus were not easy to come by. Some were extracted by Pakistan’s parliamentary opposition after 2002; some she culled from official reports. (President Musharraf, she writes, has disclosed more than $10 million in real estate assets.) She also conducted interviews and has relied on Pakistani journalists’ muckraking.

    Even if her “rough figure” for the overall scale of Milbus (about £10 billion, or $20.7 billion) and her accounts of specific examples prove in need of revision, Ms. Siddiqa has dared to illuminate Pakistan’s military as an oppressive holding company possessing not just security-related businesses, but also hotels, shopping malls, insurance companies, banks, farms and an airline.

    How did Pakistan’s armed forces end up dominating the economy? Awarding land grants to soldiers dates back to the aftermath of the 1857 mutiny against British colonial rule. After 1947, when Britain departed and Pakistan separated bloodily from India, the perceived external threat from India, and the dispute over the province of Kashmir (left unresolved by the British), kept the military front and center in Pakistan.

    Distrustful military men sought to ensure their institution’s financial autonomy, Ms. Siddiqa argues; then they sought direct control over policy making. In the bargain, they enriched themselves.

    Post-independence expansion of Milbus occurred most prominently via welfare foundations, under the guise of providing for the needs of the troops and their families, whether with bakeries or beauty parlors. In addition, land grants, pensions five times the civilian level and post-retirement jobs — “the most significant group involved in Milbus are retired personnel” — were designed to make service attractive. But Ms. Siddiqa writes that “out of the 46 housing schemes directly built by the armed forces, none is for ordinary soldiers.” Milbus acts like an upward funnel.

    Milbus justifies its commercial empire by disparaging civilians as incompetent and corrupt and insisting that the military alone promote national development. Just such a developmental apology for Pakistan’s military rule was echoed in American academic and policy circles throughout the cold war.

    To refute these claims, which endure among Pakistan’s officer corps, Ms. Siddiqa tallies the bailouts for military-run businesses. When Milbus earns profits, Ms. Siddiqa writes, they often derive from insider access to resources and contracts. A number of top military companies, she shows, were granted outright monopolies, which wiped out competitive civilian companies. Milbus displays all the inefficiencies of crony capitalism, worsened by the military hierarchy.  

    She writes about what she views as appeasement of Milbus in actions of two rival civilian prime ministers. Later, they were exiled. One, Nawaz Sharif, was recently deported when he tried to return to Pakistan, and the other, Benazir Bhutto, was just allowed back in a tenuous deal.

    By way of possible remedy, Ms. Siddiqa calls for the unity of Pakistan’s opposition parties, long a chimerical pursuit, and for a mass mobilization to democratize the political system. In fact, she writes that the military might be viewed as Pakistan’s largest political party, an all-volunteer force recruited primarily from the lower middle class. And she also notes that in China from the late 1990s, it was not democratic mobilization, but the autocratic Communist Party leadership that compelled the Chinese military to divest much of its vast economic holdings.

    Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the leader of the Muslim League in British India, helped establish Pakistan as a separate state for Muslims (not an Islamic state). He insisted that “the future of our state will and must depend greatly on the type of education we give to our children.” He was right. But education in Pakistan turned out to be elitist to an extreme, and steeped in national security demonologies, which helped deliver the nation into military hands. The upshot has been not just political instability, but also economic growth without development.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04shelf.html

     

     


    There are none so blind as those that cannot see.......or those who cum at the sight of a jet fighter.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #47 - January 21, 2011, 05:07 PM

    Oh, you can read Ayesha Siddique's book about how the Pakistani Army has destroyed the Pakistani economy like a parasite, and how the economy is warped to serve the PRIVATE FINANCIAL INTERESTS of Pakistani army personnel, in full, and for free here:

    http://www.balochwarna.com/sandukh/pdf/military1incbyayeshasiddiqa.pdf

    Essentiall reading  Afro ^^^


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #48 - January 21, 2011, 05:38 PM

    I know all about that billy, its why my mums brother has hectares of land (most of which is unused) has a nice wage and will have a a good pension---he's a general or summat in the army lol


    There was no necessity for Pakistan to support the Taliban - it chose to do it as part of its strategy to control Afghanistan and fight India. Your love for throbbing missiles makes you gullible to hagiography.




    What were they supposed to do? Sit back and watch more bloodshed in Afghanistan? If there was a better, more liberal option on the table and Pakistan ignored them then yes they would be wrong, but there wasn't.

    Cumming must knock out your braincells.

    The army is the reason for the crippling of Pakistan.

    And you can't disassociate the army from what it did in the 1970's -- all it does now is part of the continuum from the 1970's.




    I said I almost orgasmed  Tongue

    Well spending so much of your GDP (20% at 1 point) but a strong army is what most want. FFS it was the PM Zulfiqar Bhutto (not a military general) that famously said:

    "If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass and leaves for a thousand years, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own. The Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb and now the Hindus have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too have the bomb?"

    What do you mean by the 70s? I was talking about Bangladesh. If you meant supporting the resistance against the red army then yes I agree.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #49 - January 21, 2011, 05:44 PM

    "The Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb and now the Hindus have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too have the bomb?"

    What an idiotic way of looking at it. He's obviously thinking of wars between religions. Twat.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #50 - January 21, 2011, 05:54 PM

    Exactly, if this is the rhetoric spewed out by democratic politicians imagine the shit said by the likes of General Zia  lipsrsealed
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #51 - January 21, 2011, 06:03 PM

    Although the Pakistani army is mostly a success in persecuting and killing innocents, sucking up the resources of the nation, destroying democracy, its operational effectiveness being mainly in sodomising the nation it represents ...

    All that I could add to the above is that most totalitarian institutions are like that - to varying degrees of course.

    Well spending so much of your GDP (20% at 1 point) but a strong army is what most want.

    And you don't see a problem with that?
     
    FFS it was the PM Zulfiqar Bhutto (not a military general) that famously said:

    "If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass and leaves for a thousand years, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own. The Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb and now the Hindus have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too have the bomb?"

    Seriously, you do not see the pathology of such a statement?

    It's a question of pride for him - what he is actually saying is: "Pakistan is actually a shit-hole unable to even feed its own population. But fuck that. Instead of really tackling the issues of education, democratization, liberalization etc and transform this nation into a respectable one (which would be real  patriotism btw - not the fake one of "look at me I am a lunatic with nukes hurr durr derp") what we are going to do instead is put resorces into something we don't need at all apart from the fact that having nukes is going to be a band aid for our fake, non-existent pride. Because we are butthurt like that.

    I do understand why a five year old child would act like that but it is a matter of some concern if somebody who is an alleged grown up acts in the same. Not to mention a majority of the nation - at least that's what you are saying ("most want that" apparently).

    Really, psychiatrist are so much cheaper and less deadly. Don't you think that it would be better if the guy was initially given some help instead (too late now, I know). A nice bright softly padded room with "think happy thoughts" on walls and pictures of Bambi and friends all over?
    Perhaps even a few plush toys to boot? And regular tranquillizer shots ofc.
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #52 - January 21, 2011, 06:09 PM

    What were they supposed to do? Sit back and watch more bloodshed in Afghanistan? If there was a better, more liberal option on the table and Pakistan ignored them then yes they would be wrong, but there wasn't.



    Yeah and how did the Taliban ending the bloodshed work out precisely? You're naive. Pakistan wanted to put Afghanistan back in the stone age with Taliban rule so it could be controlled easier for her own strategic, like lobotomising a child and keeping him on a chain all the better to whip him and keep him in line.



    What do you mean by the 70s? I was talking about Bangladesh. If you meant supporting the resistance against the red army then yes I agree.


    General Zia and the army mainlining jehadism and Islamic laws into Pakistan's blood supply like a serum. Amongst other things.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #53 - January 21, 2011, 06:13 PM

    I know all about that billy, its why my mums brother has hectares of land (most of which is unused) has a nice wage and will have a a good pension---he's a general or summat in the army lol


    Bookmark that link to Ayesha Siddiqi's book and read it some time. Its not just the percentage of the GDP that the army sucks up. Its the army personnel's involvement in the rest of the economy that is fucking things up.

    Also, vested interests like that, how do you think they hypnotise people into ignoring their parasitism? Right now, any peaceful settlement in Pakistan threatens their stranglehold and institutional wealth. Peace for the Pakistani army is a threat to it.

    An army is supposed to serve the nation, not replace the nation.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #54 - January 21, 2011, 06:22 PM

    rofl... she has a point Muddy  grin12


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  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #55 - January 21, 2011, 06:36 PM

    :: Wondering who is the professional here ::

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  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #56 - January 21, 2011, 06:38 PM


     Seriously, you do not see the pathology of such a statement?

    It's a question of pride for him - what he is actually saying is: "Pakistan is actually a shit-hole unable to even feed its own population. But fuck that. Instead of really tackling the issues of education, democratization, liberalization etc and transform this nation into a respectable one (which would be real  patriotism btw - not the fake one of "look at me I am a lunatic with nukes hurr durr derp") what we are going to do instead is put resorces into something we don't need at all apart from the fact that having nukes is going to be a band aid for our fake, non-existent pride. Because we are butthurt like that.

    I do understand why a five year old child would act like that but it is a matter of some concern if somebody who is an alleged grown up acts in the same. Not to mention a majority of the nation - at least that's what you are saying ("most want that" apparently).

    Really, psychiatrist are so much cheaper and less deadly. Don't you think that it would be better if the guy was initially given some help instead (too late now, I know). A nice bright softly padded room with "think happy thoughts" on walls and pictures of Bambi and friends all over?
    Perhaps even a few plush toys to boot? And regular tranquillizer shots ofc.


     Afro Very perceptive!



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
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    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #57 - January 21, 2011, 06:41 PM

    If it isn't obvious then you must be having one of your bad days. Roll Eyes



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  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #58 - January 21, 2011, 07:21 PM

    Hey guys, check out this:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=14345

    Pakistani actress confronting mullah live on tv. Sorry, I don't have time to translate, but you can guess some stuff. She went to india and took part in reality show.

    mullah is giving her all kind of non-sense. She mentioned you mullah's rape children in madarsa's..

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  • Re: Islamic Scholar Attacks Pakistan's Blasphemy Laws
     Reply #59 - January 21, 2011, 08:24 PM

    Bookmark that link to Ayesha Siddiqi's book and read it some time. Its not just the percentage of the GDP that the army sucks up. Its the army personnel's involvement in the rest of the economy that is fucking things up.

    Also, vested interests like that, how do you think they hypnotise people into ignoring their parasitism? Right now, any peaceful settlement in Pakistan threatens their stranglehold and institutional wealth. Peace for the Pakistani army is a threat to it.

    An army is supposed to serve the nation, not replace the nation.



    I've saved the pdf and will read it over the weekend. Of course peace is a threat to it, just like peace is a threat to every other major army in the world, and of course the military industry corporations. But the point is the threat to Pakistan IS very real as long as there's no peace with India. The quicker kashmir is resolved the better it is for ALL. Maybe then both Pakistan and India will stop being involved in proxy wars.
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