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  • The Buddah
     OP - February 24, 2011, 01:14 PM
    The longer I've become atheist the more I see the value of the buddah and his teachings. He was light years ahead of his time. His message was one that can be seen as atheistic that is humanistic about personal improvement and nonviolence. It's sad that his teachings and message are not taught as much as they should be. I've learnt a small amount of his teachings and it's really eye opening. Has anyone else had a similiar realization? 
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #1 - February 24, 2011, 01:18 PM
    The only story I am familiar with is one where he came to his followers twirling a flower in his hands laughing.  Some followers were asking "Is it because X, or Y?" etc, one of them just started to laugh.  Buddah pointed at him and said "He understands"

    Can't remember where I heard it from, but it sounded like bollocks Smiley
    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #2 - February 24, 2011, 01:37 PM
    Honestly the more u learn about his msg and not the religion that was created you see an amazing man with amazing ideas and a way of seeing the world that as I said was light years ahead of his time.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #3 - February 24, 2011, 01:58 PM
    Quote from: superomario on February 24, 2011, 01:37 PM
    Honestly the more u learn about his msg and not the religion that was created you see an amazing man with amazing ideas and a way of seeing the world that as I said was light years ahead of his time.


     Afro  But people need stupid dogmas, 'direct connection with GOD' and other nonsense!


    Quote
    "Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it."


    Truly a man who was way ahead of his times and the things he said were far,far... superior to  middle-eastern mumbo- jumbo,which seems to have become hard coded into the genes of people.


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #4 - February 24, 2011, 03:42 PM
    I have learned about Buddah, not enough tbh, but enough to know that his teaching were really beyond his time.
    He was an enlightened thinker anyway, his ideas were that that surpassed his time's thinking.
    I remember reading about his story in amazement.
    I also told his story to my younger brother, just so he can get an idea of what other people think, and tryign to open his mind.

    I have that similar quote on my signature.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #5 - February 24, 2011, 04:42 PM
    Though I am an atheist I love buddhism, apart from the bits where women cannot become proper monks and disabled people are bad people reincarnated.

    But apart from that, as a philosophy it is great. I particularly like the ideas of dukkha, the eightfold path and of there being no such thing as "self" and everything is instead just one big "stream".

    A great book on buddhism.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #6 - February 24, 2011, 04:55 PM
    A man once asked a famous Zen master what happens when we die.

    The master answered, "I don't know".

    "What do you mean, you don't know?" the man replied angrily, "aren't you a famous Zen Master?"

    "Yes", said the master, "but I'm not a dead one."
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #7 - February 24, 2011, 08:19 PM
    I don't care too much for Buddhism as a religion, though I like parts of it, but I have huge, immense respect for Buddhist philosophy and the character of Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha himself. And this only grows the more I study about him and what he actually said and what some of the other Buddhist enlightened people wrote over the centuries.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #8 - February 24, 2011, 08:26 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on February 24, 2011, 04:55 PM
    A man once asked a famous Zen master what happens when we die.

    The master answered, "I don't know".

    "What do you mean, you don't know?" the man replied angrily, "aren't you a famous Zen Master?"

    "Yes", said the master, "but I'm not a dead one."

    Quote from: allat on February 24, 2011, 08:19 PM
    I don't care too much for Buddhism as a religion,....


    I think Ishina follows budduism and I say the better religion for her is burkhaism.,

    yes any  and every  religion that is personal and individual,  allows individuals to question/explore it is O.K.  the problem is stagnation and rogue leaders of the religion.
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #9 - February 24, 2011, 08:36 PM
    Yeah I meant that I don't like certain things like the whole "women can't attain enlightenment" etc. BS and some of the Buddhist leaders have been of questionable character... but overall, Buddhism as a philosophy, an intellectual pursuit, a way of living, is brilliant.
    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #10 - February 24, 2011, 10:02 PM
    Quote from: hypocrucifier on February 24, 2011, 01:58 PM
    Afro  But people need stupid dogmas, 'direct connection with GOD' and other nonsense!



    Why is the idea of having 'direct connection with god' nonsense?
    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #11 - February 24, 2011, 11:49 PM
    Prob cuz there is no god.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #12 - February 25, 2011, 12:00 AM
    Quote from: superomario on February 24, 2011, 11:49 PM
    Prob cuz there is no god.


    How do you know this?
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #13 - February 25, 2011, 12:03 AM
    Quote from: allat on February 24, 2011, 08:36 PM
    but overall, Buddhism as a philosophy, an intellectual pursuit, a way of living, is brilliant.


    This. I have not found a better philosophy so far.

    And I'm all for "invent your own wheel" but to be honest I think Buddha did it better than anyone else.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #14 - February 25, 2011, 12:04 AM
    I like him.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #15 - February 25, 2011, 12:05 AM
    Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and the spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity.

    Albert Einstein
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #16 - February 25, 2011, 12:08 AM
    Quote from: Eliphaz on February 25, 2011, 12:03 AM
    This. I have not found a better philosophy so far.

    And I'm all for "invent your own wheel" but to be honest I think Buddha did it better than anyone else.


    Buddha's basic teachings are very simple. Everything else in Buddhism is accretion, alot of superstition and tradition and mythology has been added to it.

    ++++

    The four noble truths are the most fundamental teaching of Buddhism. They were taught by Shakyamuni Buddha shortly after his enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree. They elegantly express the reality of life and point out the path to enlightenment. They are the basis of all schools of Buddhism

     

    The Four Noble Truths:

     

     

    The First Noble Truth:

    All existence is suffering
     

    The Second Noble Truth:

    Suffering is caused by selfish craving
     

    The Third Noble Truth:

    The eradication of selfish craving brings about the cessation of suffering and enables one to attain Nirvana

    The Fourth Noble Truth:

    There is a path by which this eradication can be achieved, namely the discipline of the Eightfold Path.

    The Eightfold Path consists of:

    1: right views

    2: right thinking

    3: right speech

    4: right action

    5: right way of life

    6: right endeavour

    7: right mindfulness

    8: right meditation

     
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #17 - February 25, 2011, 03:25 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 24, 2011, 08:26 PM
    I think Ishina follows budduism and I say the better religion for her is burkhaism.,


    No, I’m not Buddhist. I’m just a humble martial artist. I value Rin-zai Zen teachings, where they are of use to me, where they intersect with the history and philosophy of the martial arts, or sogobujutsu, the essential science that all eastern martial arts are rooted in. All serious martial artists are influenced by such teachings, whether they know it or not, whether they care for it or not. The thing about the teachings I read is that they may well be in the context of swordplay or the science of war, but can equally be applied to writing poetry, or making tea, or general right-mindedness. In the same way Sun Tzu’s The Art of War can be mined as a source of inspiration and as a model of conduct for the stock market, or business ventures, or sports.

    I don’t know enough about Buddhism, but what I know, I like. If it must be called a religion, it is perhaps the one most easily reconcilable with the reality of the universe presented to me. We don’t see many Buddhist apologetics, if any, and the apologetic is the sure sign of an insecure faith and extraordinary claims. I see it less as of a religion, more as essential life skills collected and packaged in an interesting and accessible way. And I dare say a beautiful and enchanting way. But then, I have a massive soft spot for Oriental culture anyway, so I'm biased.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #18 - February 25, 2011, 03:37 AM
    Quote from: billy on February 25, 2011, 12:08 AM
    Buddha's basic teachings are very simple. Everything else in Buddhism is accretion, alot of superstition and tradition and mythology has been added to it.

    ++++

    The four noble truths are the most fundamental teaching of Buddhism. They were taught by Shakyamuni Buddha shortly after his enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree. They elegantly express the reality of life and point out the path to enlightenment. They are the basis of all schools of Buddhism

     

    The Four Noble Truths:

     

     

    The First Noble Truth:

    All existence is suffering
     

    The Second Noble Truth:

    Suffering is caused by selfish craving
     

    The Third Noble Truth:

    The eradication of selfish craving brings about the cessation of suffering and enables one to attain Nirvana

    The Fourth Noble Truth:

    There is a path by which this eradication can be achieved, namely the discipline of the Eightfold Path.

    The Eightfold Path consists of:

    1: right views

    2: right thinking

    3: right speech

    4: right action

    5: right way of life

    6: right endeavour

    7: right mindfulness

    8: right meditation

     




    Four noble truths seem to me to say openly what other religions say only in footnotes: "give me your money, you don't need it and parting with it is good for you" LOL
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #19 - February 25, 2011, 05:27 PM
    Quote
    If it must be called a religion, it is perhaps the one most easily reconcilable with the reality of the universe presented to me. We don’t see many Buddhist apologetics, if any, and the apologetic is the sure sign of an insecure faith and extraordinary claims. I see it less as of a religion, more as essential life skills collected and packaged in an interesting and accessible way. And I dare say a beautiful and enchanting way.


    An excellent summary! Afro
    A true buddhist is like an explorer, a true follower of the Abrahamic faiths is like a goat tied to a pole with his servile deification of his holy books.


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #20 - February 25, 2011, 05:40 PM
    You're insane hypocrucifier. Any tru Buddhist does not care about great works of literature or scientific discoveries. They hold their sacred books in comparable reverence that Ibrahimics do. A religion is still a religion.

    Whats so great about meditating all day and walking around in a stupid robe with a stupid smile while spreading bs about your past lifes anyways? Who pays for such "productive" way of life?
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #21 - February 25, 2011, 05:46 PM
    I like how Buddhism has influenced porn.
    fuck you
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #22 - February 25, 2011, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on February 25, 2011, 05:46 PM
    I like how Buddhism has influenced porn.

    yes..   you are a relic Q-Man

    indeed they influenced  better than what bison does/doing  at cemb..   http://sacred-sex.org/buddhism/14th-dalai-lama-and-sex
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #23 - February 25, 2011, 05:59 PM
    Thanks, yeez, for the link, exposing the BS of this "cool" religion.
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #24 - February 25, 2011, 06:15 PM
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #25 - February 25, 2011, 06:51 PM
    Hey alex I'm not talking about the religion buddhism. I'm talking about the actual teachings of the buddah. There is a difference.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #26 - February 25, 2011, 07:31 PM
    The Buddha Replies to the Deva

    On a certain day when the Blessed One
    dwelt at Jetavana, the garden of Anathapindika,
    a celestial deva came to him in the shape of a Brahman
    enlightened and wearing clothing as white as snow.

    The deva asked,

        What is the sharpest sword?
        What is the deadliest poison?
        What is the fiercest fire?
        What is the darkest night?"

    The Blessed One replied,

        The sharpest sword is a word spoken in wrath;
        the deadliest poison is covetousness;
        the fiercest fire is hatred;
        the darkest night is ignorance.

    The deva said,

        What is the greatest gain?
        What is the greatest loss?
        Which armour is invulnerable?
        What is the best weapon?

    The Blessed One replied,

        The greatest gain is to give to others;
        the greatest loss is to greedily receive without gratitude;
        an invulnerable armor is patience;
        the best weapon is wisdom.

    The deva said,

        Who is the most dangerous thief?
        What is the most precious treasure?
        Who can capture the heavens and the earth?
        Where is the securest treasure-trove?

    The Blessed One replied,

        The most dangerous thief is unwholesome thought;
        the most precious treasure is virtue;
        the heavens and the earth may be captured by the mind's eye;
        surpassing rebirth locates the securest treasure-trove.

    The deva asked,

        What is attraction?
        What is repulsion?
        What is the most horrible pain?
        What is the greatest enjoyment?

    The Buddha replied,

        Attraction is wholeness;
        repulsion is unwholesomeness;
        the most tormenting pain is bad conscience;
        the height of bliss is redeemed awakening.

    The deva asked,

        What causes ruin in the world?
        What breaks off friendships?
        What is the most violent fever?
        Who is the best physician?"

    The Blessed One replied,

        Ruin in the world is caused by ignorance;
        friendships are broken off by envy and selfishness;
        the most violent fever is hatred;
        the best physician is the Buddha;

    The deva continued,

        Now I have only one doubt to resolve and absolve:
        What is it fire cannot burn,
        nor moisture corrode,
        nor wind crush down,
        but is able to enlighten the whole world.

    The Buddha replied,

        Blessing!
        Neither fire, nor moisture, nor wind
        can destroy the blessing of good deeds,
        and blessings enlighten the whole world.

    Hearing these answers,
    the deva was overflowing with joy.
    Then clasping hands, bowed down in respect and
    disappeared suddenly from the presence of the Buddha.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #27 - February 25, 2011, 07:34 PM
    Quote from: Alex Lam Meem on February 25, 2011, 03:37 AM

    Four noble truths seem to me to say openly what other religions say only in footnotes: "give me your money, you don't need it and parting with it is good for you" LOL


    Uh, yeah, OK.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #28 - February 25, 2011, 08:18 PM
    Quote from: superomario on February 25, 2011, 06:51 PM
    Hey alex I'm not talking about the religion buddhism. I'm talking about the actual teachings of the buddah. There is a difference.

    Hey mario, I understand and I wasn't arguing with it.
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • Re: The Buddah
     Reply #29 - February 27, 2011, 11:45 AM
    Quote from: Alex Lam Meem on February 25, 2011, 05:40 PM
    You're insane hypocrucifier. Any tru Buddhist does not care about great works of literature or scientific discoveries. They hold their sacred books in comparable reverence that Ibrahimics do. A religion is still a religion.

    Whats so great about meditating all day and walking around in a stupid robe with a stupid smile while spreading bs about your past lifes anyways? Who pays for such "productive" way of life?


    All buddhists are not monks,there's a lot of freedom for the followers to live as they think is fit. It's more of a philosophy than religion. Whatever BS there's,real or perceived, is definitely not harmful for non followers.
     


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
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